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It sure did. I have two ribs that stick out more than the others because of that injury. I am in no way as tough as Nick Feldman, but they don't heal easy. (the first one was in a victory over a D1 AA ; the second was wrestling my son in practice two years ago... I was showboating and well, stuff happens. I am officially retired.)

I’ll preface this by saying as I did above that I’m taking Iowa as long as they still have a mostly healthy Teemer. But I don’t think those two particular statements are far off. Parco and Spratley IMO are similar in that they both have a shot to win but more likely will be in the 3-5 range. I’d give Spratley a better shot of winning TBH just because 125 is so wide open. Both Jamison and Ayala are more question marks at their current weight, but I’d give the edge to Ayala. My issue with the “floor guys” comment is moreso that I don’t think they’ll really matter. I don’t think Iowa fans are really counting on any points at 125. Block could score about as much as Wittcraft or Young, but not both IMO.

I think I'm on an island by myself (or few others) here, but I've had OKST number 2 since preseason. My rationale is this: 125: Spratley is top 6ish points. Petersen wins 1-2 matches. Adv OKST through 125 133: Witcraft is bloodroundish points. Ayala is top 6ish points. Adv OKST through 133 141: Jamison is AA points. Block wins 1-2 matches. Adv OKST through 141 149: Young win 2-3 matches. Parco is AA points. Adv OKST (small one) through 149 157: Fish is low AA/bloodroundish points. Teemer is top 4 points. Adv Iowa (small one) through 157 165: Amine is low AA/bloodroundish points. Caliendo is 2nd points (with heavy bonus). Adv Iowa through 165 174: Hamiti is top 3 points (with heavy bonus). Kennedy/Brands is AA points. Adv Iowa (small one) through 174 184: Plott is 3rd points. Arnold is low AA/bloodroundish points. Adv OKST (small one) through 184 197: Surber is low AA/bloodroundish points. Buchanan is top 4 points. Adv Iowa (small one) through 197 285: Hendrickson is top 3 points (with heavy bonus). Keuter is low AA/bloodroundish points. Adv OKST (small one) through 285 OKST heavy hitters: Hamiti (bonus pointer), Plott, & Hendrickson (bonus pointer) OKST contributors: Spratley, Jamison, Fish, Amine, Surber Iowa heavy hitters: Teemer, Caliendo (bonus pointer), & Buchanan Iowa contributors: Ayala, Parco, Kennedy/Brands, Arnold, Keuter Both teams have 3 heavy hitters (near locks to be top 4) and 5 contributors (5th-bloodround). When I look at the heavy hitters, OKST has two bonus pointers and Iowa has one. When I look at the contributors, I think OKST has 1-2 (Spratley and Jamison) that could exceed expectations and Iowa has 1-2 (Ayala and Parco). To me, it's razor thin but comes down to bonus and OKST's "floor guys" (Witcraft & Young) have more upside than Iowa's "floor guys" (Petersen & Block).

That’s because when the facts don’t match with what we would hope, we twist the facts to make us feel better.

174: Hamiti 10% 125: Ramos 20% 157: Shapiro 25% 197: Cardenas 30% 133: Crookham 31% 149: Henson 40% 141: Mendez 50% 184: Cstar 65% 165: MM 95% 285: Gable 99%

You're just going to have to take the L on this one. I've read through your arguments and you haven't presented anything that is factually based on the information that has been released to the public thus far

The case can continue in 4 years since the long standing policy of the justice department is to not criminally prosecute the current president. One of the main reasons Trump ran for president again, besides the grift, was to avoid going to prison or having any consequences for breaking the law. His tactic was to delay, file motions, and slow everything down, on the chance he could win the election and knowing if he did, they couldn't do anything because of long standing policy. If he hadn't won, then he would be looking at possibly going to prison right now.

Wrestlestat has OSU winning a dual meet at this point. Now the dual being in CHA this year im not so sure but its gonna be one worth being there live. But of course dual matchups don't mean tournament results. Couple of my thoughts above. IMO the 133lb issue is still 50/50 Witcraft/Hughes. I'm expecting Hughes on Friday. Regarding those floor guys, Young was right in the match with Henson. He made one mistake and Henson got the takedown. There is still plenty of time for JK & DT to fix the mistakes. Witcraft looked better this year than last but as a ~6th yr Sr he kindve is what he is. We know he has bonus potential but also he can lose a first round match off of one mistake. Hence I think Hughes is still possible.

No I’m using a Cstar ducked Griffith thread. Which Cstar did. He was healthy. He was in the building and he didn’t go. And then he talked shyte after.

WTF are you doing that is so intense that you cant even hold water down?

This is just made up criteria, lol. Ayala and and Parco being roughly equivalent to Spratley and Jamison was the best part. Then claiming that Ok State's "floor guys" (again made up category) have more upside despite multiple years of NCAA competition and no real notable success vs. Iowa having two very young guys, when most recent stories show the young guys making huge leaps during the season.

I think OKST floor guys should also include Surber and Fish. Surber looks tough so far this year but he has three NCAA wins in three trips. I am going to need to see it before I lock him in as a R12/AA type. Fish had nice wins over Paniro and Saldate but has losses to Chumbley, Brock Herman and Johnny Lovett on the year. For Reece, I am going to need to see some more consistent wins to but him in the R12 conversation. I am interesting to see how it plays out with him and Hughes. Is the cut just too much for Hughes? The other factor to consider is that Jamison fell off a cliff trying to hold 141 for an entire season last year. He had great wins to start the year last year and then was about .500 to finish the season including 0-2 at NCAA's. On the flip side, it is possible that Hamiti is a true title threat. Carter Young has looked better with each outing so perhaps he keeps improving. If Cael Hughes can figure out his weight cut or whatever issues he is dealing with the point potential of 133 goes up significantly in my opinion.

I’ve heard the argument before. Yes it’s a duck. Psu fans repeated that argument ad nauseam in that thread. The fact that you’re better and don’t wrestle “good:great” competition is a duck. Psu fans don’t agree because psu can do no wrong. brooks ducked beard too. Y’all will make the same argument so save it. this is what I meant by psu modernized / normalized ducking. I mean if you always have the best team. And your version of a duck is my guy is better than your guy therefore it’s not a duck. You’ve cornered the market on ducking and keeping your match count down for NCAAs. I think I put a chart out some time ago showing psu consistently has less matches going into NCAAs vs the rest of the top 10 year in and year out.

Brawndo has what plants crave!

I think the general public is in denial about this being a very real possibility. I am not one of them. With the new rules as we, he would then have a loss on his docket, so he would not be undefeated.

I can't wait for the bonus points. It's a guarantee

Substitute wrestling for peppermint and I think he nails us: http://theringer.com/2024/12/10/tech/internet-forum-message-board-90s-nostalgia-social-media

Does anyone else feel like there are way to many cabinet positions and thus shouldn't the Elon/Vivek DOGE team start by cutting 20% of the Cabinet and overall Presidential appointments? Most are just rewarding folks from the campaign correct? Btw: if Canada is now a state we don't need an Ambassador right?

Everyone knows NHS is a loud mouth Indiana fan

FWIW Wolbert's brother Quinton is a sophomore 125 lber at UW La Crosse, and they are both pretty short dudes. I don't think he's going to hit some major growth spurt and be a 157 or something like that. I'd guess 141. If John Smith were still the coach, I'd say he'd be 125/133 LOL.

If I was Cardenas and his coaches I would seriously consider pulling that RS and making a run for the title this year. With Teemer down to injury and Shapiro (who Cardenas was 2-1 against last year) possibly dealing with concussion issues that weight is wide open. As a Lehigh guy I am hoping Max Brignola would consider making a run at this weight if he thinks he could still make it and be effective.

Sorry, I should not have used "we." Some wrestling pundits are.

Rank your champ picks in ascending order of confidence (lowest confidence first). 125 Ramos 20% 157 Teemer 25% (injury, Shapiro) 149 SVN 35% 197 Buchanan 40% (Ferrari, Cardenas) 141 Mendez 50% (Alirez) 174 O'Toole 50% (Haines) 133 Crookham 60% 184 Starocci 90% (Keck) 165 Mesenbrink 95% HWT Steveson 99%

I generally start with two bottles Gatorade/water, one 60/40 the other 40/60 blend. If long ride/century then 75 to 100 mi one bottle 50/50 coke/Gatorade and one bottle ice cold water. Post ride chocolate milk &/or pickle juice.

It's true. I've seen him name call...

Well, I must inform you that while you are entitled to your opinion, it can also be wrong - which it is. If I was trolling you I would be calling you names by now.

I was sitting mat side, he was in a lot of pain but location looked like cartilage. I'd say he will be fine first dual in January. Eric Seibert won an NCAA title less than 2 weeks after and without getting on the mat until first match.

I'm with ya. If you are telling me Feldman is dealing with injury, but Kerkvliet is not, it is Kerkvliet all day. And even an uninjured Feldman who lost to Ghadiali is a big underdog.

Nice, I'm gonna go look for an empty cup

Can a 1 cartilage Feldman beat a 2 cartilage Kerk?

Taking the scenarios I’m laying out, coming up with something different, and saying “I think this is what you are talking about” does not change the reality. Bottom line, insurance companies regularly attempt to pay less than they are obligated to pay under contract, to the point that there is a whole, very lucrative profession on the sole purpose of fighting for the insured when they are not paid what they are due. There are literally thousands upon thousands of people making a very good living by fighting for and collecting what the insurance companies owe, after they’ve denied full or partial payment of claim.

There are many matches in which the other person has more points at the end and the other guy gets his hand raised. It can happen when someone loses via Pinfellery or Injury as well. The match isn't complete until it is complete and a hand is raised. The stamp of victory is the hand raise.

But I would not be surprised if Parco placed higher than Ayala either. I think Parco has a higher floor, lower ceiling. Ayala has a lower floor but higher ceiling. Idk if it makes sense, but that's how I feel.

You can't conveniently just use the information that is valid to the discussion for whatever your narrative is without also acknowledging that it is a trollthread from a troll parody account that you are citing. If you want to use that thread you must also understand the reasons the OP is invalid as a resource.

I would like to offer a passionate defense of my especiality, made up categories.

Taylor's "nauseating" Cliff Keen interview: Is it like the Scottish Highland cow chewing, that puts you over the edge? ( Just like that?) D3

Visited the EMT for my middle daughter this week. Surgery is required. The service provider did not quote me a price. My price will be discovered after the insurance tells the provider what they will pay.

Nice breakdown

Gotta imagine Duke is ready to go win a title right now. Hard to shelf a guy like that for two years.

It's still made. Called Quench now

Also GatorGum was such a great spittin' gum. Better than Jolly Ranchers. I haven't seen it around in ages though and assume it's no longer made.

But by all means, we need to be so concerned about such a powerful influence for good among the NYC citizens. He should never have been out of jail to harass and threaten people. He was a danger to himself and others, as demonstrated by his arrest record. mspart

I prefer my 90s sports drinks to be carbonated

There was only one color.

Below's a video recap of the Fan Fest dual between the ILLINI and Indiana. At this link we do a written play-by-play of the action, as well as a critique of the production of the event by the B1G. Spoiler Alert: We loved it! Finally, we even have a few nice words for Angel Escobedo and his Hoosier team.

McCrone 5th. Bouzakis 3rd. Mendez Champ. Paddy 4th. Shumate 4th. Feldman 6th. MFF out.

I’m calling BS on this. From the first word to the last. You don’t believe anything said in this post.