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I think one piece you are missing is donations. Don’t you think a lot of these mega donors will continue pulling out?

There are elements of irrelevance here. Hezbollah has a significant presence there, and are afforded much latitude as long as they don’t attract too much of Israel’s ire. Then they lose their popularity and privilege, but don’t really suffer much consequence over that brought by Israelis. There is also some evidence that intelligence has been passed out of Lebanon that aided in attacks on U.S. military installations. That military guys can relax and socialize is nothing new, even if they’re enemies. There’s probably nothing that’ll take the fight out of you like the military.

I initially would have said Michigan or Iowa State, but they landed their 197lbers.

I assume DT would have been 1 on your list had he beaten Brooks. So he drops 3 spots below Zahid to 9? If you think Brooks is 1 DT should be 2.

I don’t know, Brooks Zahid was 7-6 with a singlet pull point. Zahid also body slammed him. I think Yazdani is going to be uber motivated to win that Olympic title. He’s killed everyone not named Taylor. If Brooks does win it he jumps levels in my mind as he just did beating Taylor.

He is, but before those two, how many world-level studs appeared out of maryland? I mentally take the average across time since ~1970 and today, and if it gets more crowded than one for every 20 years, not a generational talent. I don’t know any Maryland wrestling history prior to snyder.

some levity lol

who on here is supporting hamas?

Curious if anyone has heard anything at all about possible destinations for Massoma Endene. I would guess Arizona State or West Virginia

I agree with Brooks. Think we will find out DT lost to one of the best wrestlers in the world. 2. I also think the same about Spencer... Think he is going to show us at Olympic Qualifier. 3. Vito (at 61, my favorite to watch) 4. Zane (at 70 not sure at 65) put him ahead of Dake because of a more consistent attacking offense. 5. Dake (Side note. If Brooks is as good as I feel he is, we may have the top 2 P4P at the same weight)

As of today, who do you think are the top ten male US wrestlers? I have freestyle and folkstyle (if appropriate) in mind. No criteria — this is about vibes. My top ten: 1- Brooks (yes I said it) 2- Vito 3- Dake 4- Zain 5- Snyder 6- Zahid 7- Parris 8- Lee 9- DT 10- Nolf

There are certain regions of Lebanon outside government control. Just like areas of Russia where the government is more or less nonexistent. Or Mexico. Or Colombia. Or Brazil. Now, could you say that this apathy is the root of this? Sure. They only care about Hezbollah when it becomes a problem. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Lebanon has been a US ally for a long time. Iranian proxies are able to infiltrate and stage military actions from their territory, but that does not mean the Lebanese government hosts them. They literally send officers to US military schools. I attended one with about a dozen of them. Ironically, a roughly equal mix of Christian, Jewish and Muslim guys who all smoked cigarettes and drank with each other. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I include Lebanon (hezbala) as Iran proxies. Egypt doesn’t want the trouble that follows the Palestinians wherever they go. Syria and Jordan cooperated in Israel’s hit on Iran. Saudi Arabia is still wanting to normalize relations with Israel. Biden policies are absolutely stunning.

How anyone … seriously .. anyone …. can support Hamas after what they did, is sickening. I’m ok with supporting the historical claims that Palestinians have made, but supporting Hamas and their actions is disgusting, through and through. And there were many after Oct 7 that did just that. Many with their current chants and protests aren’t simply imploring Israel to protect innocents, they are trumpeting Hamas’ calls … all while Hamas still holds hostages. F’ing sick.

I didn’t read all the pages here. But will just jump in. Hamas, the elected government of the people of Gaza, planned for, prepared for, and then executed a planned invasion of Israel with the sole intent of killing, mutilating, and raping civilians along with taking hundreds of them (old folks, kids, babies, moms) hostage. Doing this by hand, face to face, savagery. Freaking definition of evil. Pure, unadulterated evil. Like freaking sick, disgusting evil. Pure terrorism. Pure targeting of ALL civilians they could find. Picture some group / government / organization doing this to the US. Seriously, picture it. Then, Hamas runs back to Gaza and then hides behind and under civilians. Absolutely on purpose. Thus, clearly violating the ‘rules of war’ over and over again. What did they expect Israel to do? What reaction did they want? This, they wanted this. They purposefully brought this down on the people of Gaza. The people that elected them. The people that did not report that this horror was about to happen (many had to know but kept it secret). And now, Hamas continues to fight. Continues to bring the fury of Israel down on Gaza. Refuses to relinquish all hostages. If Israel wanted to target.civilians and commit genocide, we would be talking about millions dead by now. I feel for the true innocents. I do. But what Hamas did rightly unlocked pure fury and Hamas hiding behind the innocents is the true guilty party here. ‘

Marcus is really impressive, hopefully he can stay healthy and continue to improve. I look forward to watching him wrestle.

Interestingly, applications to Harvard were down 5% this year. That is a lot considering most elite schools that report are showing good growth. Lots of turmoil at Harvard these past several months.

Metcalf unfortunately didn’t get a World or Olympic medal or title, that would have probably been his crowning achievement in his international career, but he did place at the Worlds toughest tournament, The Yarygin, a couple of times. I do remember a match I saw at the World Cup in Los Angeles ( actually in Inglewood at the Fabulous Forum ), where we were Wrestling against Iran. And Metcalf got tossed a couple of times and had to mount a huge come back to come back and win. One of my favorite Metcalf matches.