Winners Circle

If I'm Tim Flynn and co. (and if I'm Strick for that matter), I'm cutting him back down to 125. He was a hair away from the podium and is a title threat at 125. At 133 he's shown to be much less than that.

I have been saying this since he won the title and everyone jumped on the "he never won state! OMG!!" bandwagon. Dude won the Ironman, super 32 AA, Fargo AA, Powerade champ, etc. He was elite.

Right. You can certainly form your own opinion as well. And when you post your opinion on a discussion board, I want to give my opinion to contribute to the discussion. Don't get so triggered.

I agree with most of what you said. But to call him "an abuser" is factually not true. That's my whole point. Is he an alleged abuser? Absolutely. But an abuser? No.

That doesn't mean my opinion can't or won't change. But until the police feel there is enough evidence to at least charge him of something, my opinion is that he did not do these things.

I agree with everything you said here. But do we think one article is enough to form an opinion of him as "an abuser"? I don't think so. HE DOESN'T EVEN FACE ANY CHARGES YET.

At least those 3 people all faced criminal charges. Starocci, at this point in time, does not face any criminal charges. So we're supposed to declare him an abuser based on one article?

Understanding her POV doesn't make Starocci an abuser. It makes him an alleged abuser, until he is found guilty in a court of law.

***ALLEGED abuser*** You're a big "guilty until proven innocent" guy huh?

Both had their day in court and were found guilty, so I'm not sure of your point.

If you're asking whether or not one article, written by a website that I have no background knowledge of whether or not it's a credible source, is going to make me decide that someone is guilty of a crime that they haven't even been charged with yet, is my morality system, then yes. If Starocci is charged with the alleged crime, and convicted, then my morality system will tell me that he wasn't a good guy.

That doesn't pay bills.

At this point in time, both of them have the same criminal charges, none.

I love this idea personally. A couple other names to consider would be Scott Green & Donnie Vinson. Yes, I know Vinson just took over at Buffalo a year or so ago, and is doing a great job recruiting/building there, and I know Green seems excited about working with Nickerson. But, Binghamton is both of their alma maters and that means something to a lot of people. Other names: Nic Bedelyon (I know he applied and was a finalist for Kent State HC job), Ramos???, Hayden Hidlay (gets him a HC job closer to home).

This was the case a few years ago. But I don't think it still, unfortunately. New Jersey is 2nd.