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I’m guessing Arnold finds a way to lose in the quarters and avoid Starocci yet again. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

FIgures Cornell would recruit him, Cornell always recruits thugs! I remember watching a Cornell thug physically assault Frank Molina at the NCAA tournament one time. He rode him for 7 minutes and was doing that "stop punching yourself" thing to Frank. Disgusting.

I am not a fan of the claim that "he got baited into the attack". The fact that he is a 19 year old adult, whether in high school or not, going into the stands to assault a minor (no matter what age the minor is) is not a good thing or a wise decision. Student athletes have been removed from tournaments/athletic eligibility for way more minor issues. We have seen way too many athletes never face consequences for their actions and it becomes a problem as they travel down the road of life. The father obviously never learned that lesson, and by filing and winning an injunction the kid is not learning either. I have no axe to grind in this, not from NJ, and actually am a Cornell fan to some degree. Anthony Knox being allowed to wrestle for his 4th state title is a travesty and should be seen as such, can't understand those who see him as being allowed to wrestle as a "win".

No doubt. I'm actually quite shocked he was allowed to wrestle after going into the stands and assaulting someone. That is wild.

Mineo demanding everyone apologize to him after multiple situations with him getting things wrong, deleting the Tweets, and never addressing those wrongs is high comedy. Eff that guy.

So SVN comes out the winner in the 149 conundrum. Man, it's about time PSU caught some breaks.

I don't see the Orange Shirt on this grid. Meaning: "Athlete picks up roadside trash and either studies law to make his legal case to the jury or studies exit routes from the Big House in planning an escape". Perhaps he will transfer from Cornell to the Poison Ivy League and the School of Hard Knox.

He chose down!

Didn't the liberal protesters in Seattle and Portland get to do whatever they wanted? Why were convicted liberal protesters offered defense money for their illegal protests by the Democrats?

If this is what happens to the best wrestler in the world and in the nation’s history, I think that really tells us how much (lack) of a choice the national team wrestlers had in whether or not they could attend those military displays over the past few years. ”You will show up, or you will encounter a situation where you need wings, but don’t have them”

That was special. The way that kid lit up was amazing.

125 lbs. 1) Matt Ramos (PU) Caleb Smith (NEB) Dean Peterson (RU) 4)Luke Lilledahl (PSU) Joey Cruz (IA) Jacob Moran (IN) Brendan McCrone (OSU) Nicolar Rivera (WIS) Cooper Flynn (MN) Dedrick Navarro (NU) Caleb Weiand (MSU) 12) Christian Tanefu (MI) Caelan Riley (IL) Tyler Garvin (MD) 133 lbs. 1)Drake Ayala (IA) Lucas Byrd (IL) Braxton Brown (MD) 4) Braeden Davis (PSU) Dylan Shawver (RU) Jacob Van Dee (NEB) Zan Fugitt (WI) Angelo Rini (IN) Nic Bouzakis (OSU) Tyler Wells (MN) Dustin Norris (PU) 12) Massey Odiotti (NU) Andrew Hampton (MSU) Nolan Wertanen (MI) 141 lbs. 1) Beau Bartlett (PSU) Jesse Mendez (OSU) Brock Hardy (NEB) 4) Vance Vombaur (MN) Sergio Lemley (MI) Joseph Olivieri (RU) Danny Pucino (IL) Henry Porter (IN) Greyson Clark (PU) Christopher Cannon (NU) Cullan Schriever (IA) 12) Dario Lemus (MD) Brock Bobzien (WI) Jaden Crumpler (MSU) 149 lbs. 1) Shayne Van Ness (PSU) Kyle Parco (IA) Ridge Lovett (NEB) 4) Dylan D'Emilio (OSU) Kannon Webster (IL) Andrew Clark (RU) Sam Cartella (NU) Kal Miller (MD) Dylan Gilcher (MI) Drew Roberts (MN) Isaac Ruble (PU) 12) Clayton Jones (MSU) Joey Butler (IN) Royce Nilo (WI) 157 lbs. 1) Ethen Miller (MD) Tyler Kasak (PSU) Antrell Taylor (NEB) 4) Jacori Teemer (IA) Tommy Askey (MN) Joey Blaze (PU) Trevor Chumbley (NU) Chase Saldate (MI)/Brandon Cannon (OSU) Conner Harer (RU) Jason Kraisser (IL) Ryan Garvick (IN) Luke Mechler (WI) Braden Stauffenberg (MSU) 165 lbs. 1) Mitchell Mesenbrink (PSU) Mike Caliendo (IA) Christopher Minto (NEB) 4) Beau Mantanona (MI) Andrew Sparks (MN) Braeden Scoles (IL) Tyler Lillard (IN)/Max Mayfield (NU) Paddy Gallagher (OSU) Anthony White (RU) Stoney Buell (PU) Alex Uryniak (MD) Cody Goebel (WI) Jay Nivison (MSU) 174 lbs. 1) Levi Haines (PSU) Carson Kharcla (OSU) Lenny Pinto (PSU) 4) Patrick Kennedy (IA) Clayton Whiting (MN) Jackson Turley (RU) Danny Braunagel (IL) Brody Baumann (PU) Lucas Condon (WI) Derek Gilcher (IN) Joseph Walker (MI) 12) Branson John (MD) Ceasar Garza (MSU) Aiden Vandenbush (NU) 184 lbs. 1) Carter Starocci (PSU) Max McEnelly (MN) Silas Allred (NEB) 4) Gabe Arnold (IA) Jaxon Smith (MD) Edmond Ruth (ILL) Shane Cartagena-Walsh (RU) Ryder Rogotzke (OSU) DJ Washington (IN) Jaden Bullock (MI) Jon Halvorsen (NU) 12) Lucas Daly (MSU) Orlando Cruz (PU) Dylan Russo (WI) 197 lbs. 1) Stephen Buchanan (IA) Josh Barr (PSU) Jacob Cardenas (MI) 4) Isaiah Salazar (MN) Zac Braunagel (IL) Camden McDanel (NE) Evan Bates (NU) Gabe Sollars (IN) Seth Shumate (OSU) Remy Cotton (MSU) Ben Vanadia (PU) 12) Chase Mielnik (MD) PJ Casale (RU) Niccolo Colluci (WI) 285 lbs. 1) Gable Steveson (MN) Greg Kerkvliet (PSU) Joshua Heindselman (MI) 4) Nick Feldman (OSU) Luke Luffman (IL)/Yaraslau Slavikouski (RU) Ben Kueter (IA) Jacob Bullock (IN) Seth Nevills (MD) Hayden Filipovich (PU) Harley Andrews (NEB) Max Vanadia (MSU) 12) Dirk Morley (NU) Gannon Rosenfeld (WI)

Did these in the past. I am just a nobody wrestling fan so feel free to let me know where you think I went wrong. I have no insight into starting lineups (just used wrestlestat to collect all of the data) B1G Interactive Brackets Interactive Brackets: use the interactive brackets using the following letters and the team score will automatically: D, M, T, F (decision, major, tech, fall). Seed changes: You can change those seeds on the 125R, 133R, 141R, etc. sheets and it will automatically update the team predictions based off of seeds with no bonus factored in. Conference Records: These are wrestlers records vs. who I have in the field at that weight Rankings: WS = wrestlestat | CR = coaches ranking | RPI = RPI (I was waiting until the final coaches ranking and RPI to add those) 125 lbs. #1 Matt Ramos (PUR) (23-0, 6-0 BIG): 2 WS #2 Caleb Smith (NEB) (17-4, 7-1 BIG): 8 WS #3 Dean Peterson (RUT) (18-4, 7-1 BIG): 9 WS #4 Jacob Moran (IND) (21-7, 5-5 BIG): 19 WS #5 Brendan McCrone (OSU) (20-7, 3-5 BIG): 3 WS #6 Luke Lilledahl (PSU) (16-2, 4-2 BIG): 12 WS #7 Joey Cruz (IOWA) (12-9, 6-2 BIG): 25 WS #8 Cooper Flynn (MINN) (12-4, 2-3 BIG): 20 WS #9 Nicolar Rivera (WIS) (17-3, 4-3 BIG): 10 WS #10 Dedrick Navarro (NW) (18-10, 4-4 BIG): 28 WS #11 Caleb Weiand (MSU) (10-13, 2-5 BIG): 56 WS #12 Tyler Garvin (MD) (5-18, 0-6 BIG): 66 WS #13 Caelan Riley (ILL) (4-13, 0-7 BIG): 63 WS #14 Wilfred Tanefeu (MICH) (0-7, 0-6 BIG): 65 WS 133 lbs. #1 Drake Ayala (IOWA) (15-1, 4-0 BIG): 2 WS #2 Lucas Byrd (ILL) (15-1, 6-1 BIG): 3 WS #3 Braxton Brown (MD) (20-2, 6-1 BIG): 7 WS #4 Braeden Davis (PSU) (8-3, 3-2 BIG): 13 WS #5 Dylan Shawver (RUT) (17-6, 6-3 BIG): 10 WS #6 Zan Fugitt (WIS) (16-5, 4-3 BIG): 17 WS #7 Jacob VanDee (NEB) (12-7, 6-2 BIG): 16 WS #8 Angelo Rini (IND) (17-7, 5-3 BIG): 22 WS #9 Nic Bouzakis (OSU) (18-6, 3-4 BIG): 14 WS #10 Tyler Wells (MINN) (11-5, 1-3 BIG): 24 WS #11 Dustin Norris (PUR) (7-10, 1-6 BIG): 51 WS #12 Massey Odiotti (NW) (12-14, 1-5 BIG): 46 WS #13 Andrew Hampton (MSU) (6-13, 1-8 BIG): 57 WS #14 Nolan Wertanen (MICH) (5-15, 0-6 BIG): 68 WS 141 lbs. #1 Beau Bartlett (PSU) (18-0, 7-0 BIG): 1 WS #2 Jesse Mendez (OSU) (23-1, 5-1 BIG): 2 WS #3 Brock Hardy (NEB) (19-3, 7-1 BIG): 4 WS #4 Vance Vombaur (MINN) (20-3, 4-2 BIG): 6 WS #5 Joey Olivieri (RUT) (15-6, 4-2 BIG): 13 WS #6 Sergio Lemley (MICH) (15-7, 4-4 BIG): 11 WS #7 Danny Pucino (ILL) (12-4, 4-3 BIG): 16 WS #8 Henry Porter (IND) (13-7, 3-4 BIG): 29 WS #9 Greyson Clark (PUR) (11-9, 3-3 BIG): 30 WS #10 Ryder Block (IOWA) (2-4, 0-2 BIG): 58 WS #11 Chris Cannon (NW) (5-7, 2-5 BIG): 37 WS #12 Dario Lemus (MD) (8-13, 2-5 BIG): 55 WS #13 Brock Bobzien (WIS) (5-15, 1-6 BIG): 53 WS #14 Jaden Crumpler (MSU) (6-15, 0-8 BIG): 59 WS 149 lbs. #1 Shayne VanNess (PSU) (17-1, 7-1 BIG): 2 WS #2 Kyle Parco (IOWA) (18-1, 6-1 BIG): 3 WS #3 Ridge Lovett (NEB) (16-2, 7-1 BIG): 4 WS #4 Dylan D'Emilio (OSU) (17-3, 6-2 BIG): 9 WS #5 Kannon Webster (ILL) (11-5, 3-4 BIG): 11 WS #6 Andrew Clark (RUT) (20-10, 4-3 BIG): 24 WS #7 Kal Miller (MD) (19-8, 4-3 BIG): 32 WS #8 Dylan Gilcher (MICH) (9-7, 3-4 BIG): 27 WS #9 Sam Cartella (NW) (14-7, 5-3 BIG): 18 WS #10 Drew Roberts (MINN) (12-7, 2-6 BIG): 33 WS #11 Isaac Ruble (PUR) (8-11, 1-6 BIG): 68 WS #12 Joey Butler (IND) (17-10, 0-3 BIG): 57 WS #13 Clayton Jones (MSU) (6-12, 0-6 BIG): 71 WS #14 Royce Nilo (WIS) (2-13, 0-5 BIG): 78 WS 149 lbs. #1 Ethan Miller (MD) (20-0, 7-0 BIG): 10 WS #2 Tyler Kasak (PSU) (15-1, 4-1 BIG): 2 WS #3 Antrell Taylor (NEB) (19-2, 6-1 BIG): 4 WS #4 Jacori Teemer (IOWA) (5-2, 1-1 BIG): 3 WS #5 Joey Blaze (PUR) (15-4, 2-2 BIG): 6 WS #6 Tommy Askey (MINN) (20-3, 4-2 BIG): 8 WS #7 Trevor Chumbley (NW) (11-3, 4-1 BIG): 9 WS #8 Chase Saldate (MICH) (9-6, 2-4 BIG): 18 WS #9 Brandon Cannon (OSU) (18-2, 1-1 BIG): 12 WS #10 Conner Harer (RUT) (13-9, 4-3 BIG): 42 WS #11 Jason Kraisser (ILL) (8-7, 1-3 BIG): 37 WS #12 Ryan Garvick (IND) (6-13, 1-7 BIG): 72 WS #13 Luke Mechler (WIS) (9-14, 0-6 BIG): 57 WS #14 Braden Stauffenberg (MSU) (5-14, 0-5 BIG): 69 WS 165 lbs. #1 Mitchell Mesenbrink (PSU) (19-0, 7-0 BIG): 1 WS #2 Michael Caliendo (IOWA) (18-1, 7-1 BIG): 2 WS #3 Christopher Minto (NEB) (18-2, 6-1 BIG): 10 WS #4 Braeden Scoles (ILL) (13-3, 4-2 BIG): 17 WS #5 Beau Mantanona (MICH) (11-3, 5-2 BIG): 12 WS #6 Andrew Sparks (MINN) (19-5, 3-4 BIG): 9 WS #7 Paddy Gallagher (OSU) (14-6, 1-1 BIG): 14 WS #8 Maxx Mayfield (NW) (17-8, 3-5 BIG): 19 WS #9 Tyler Lillard (IND) (19-7, 5-4 BIG): 18 WS #10 Anthony White (RUT) (13-9, 0-6 BIG): 35 WS #11 Cody Goebel (WIS) (11-7, 1-2 BIG): 41 WS #12 Jay Nivison (MSU) (10-14, 1-6 BIG): 58 WS #13 Stoney Buell (PUR) (12-12, 1-6 BIG): 50 WS #14 Alex Uryniak (MD) (2-13, 1-5 BIG): 64 WS 174 lbs. #1 Levi Haines (PSU) (17-1, 8-0 BIG): 2 WS #2 Carson Kharchla (OSU) (11-1, 7-1 BIG): 4 WS #3 Lenny Pinto (NEB) (19-4, 7-1 BIG): 5 WS #4 Patrick Kennedy (IOWA) (10-3, 4-3 BIG): 7 WS #5 Clayton Whiting (MINN) (14-8, 4-3 BIG): 28 WS #6 Danny Braunagel (ILL) (8-8, 2-4 BIG): 29 WS #7 Brody Baumann (PUR) (16-8, 3-4 BIG): 35 WS #8 Jackson Turley (RUT) (14-8, 2-4 BIG): 23 WS #9 Lucas Condon (WIS) (14-9, 4-4 BIG): 34 WS #10 Ceaser Garza (MSU) (13-12, 1-5 BIG): 48 WS #11 Branson John (MD) (11-14, 2-7 BIG): 37 WS #12 Joseph Walker (MICH) (11-7, 1-5 BIG): 33 WS #13 Roman Rogotzke (IND) (10-8, 0-2 BIG): 56 WS #14 Joseph Martin (NW) (8-9, 0-2 BIG): 57 WS 184 lbs. #1 Carter Starocci (PSU) (18-0, 7-0 BIG): 2 WS #2 Max McEnelly (MINN) (18-0, 8-0 BIG): 4 WS #3 Silas Allred (NEB) (16-3, 5-2 BIG): 7 WS #4 Gabe Arnold (IOWA) (13-2, 5-2 BIG): 8 WS #5 Jaxon Smith (MD) (17-5, 5-2 BIG): 9 WS #6 Edmond Ruth (ILL) (10-6, 4-3 BIG): 14 WS #7 Shane Cartagena-Walsh (RUT) (19-9, 3-5 BIG): 21 WS #8 Ryder Rogotzke (OSU) (9-6, 3-5 BIG): 11 WS #9 Donnell Washington (IND) (11-6, 3-4 BIG): 23 WS #10 Jaden Bullock (MICH) (11-11, 2-5 BIG): 39 WS #11 Jon Halvorsen (NW) (8-11, 2-5 BIG): 61 WS #12 Lucas Daly (MSU) (11-13, 2-6 BIG): 62 WS #13 Orlando Cruz (PUR) (10-10, 1-5 BIG): 59 WS #14 Dylan Russo (WIS) (5-13, 0-6 BIG): 67 WS 197 lbs. #1 Stephen Buchanan (IOWA) (19-0, 8-0 BIG): 1 WS #2 Josh Barr (PSU) (17-1, 5-1 BIG): 3 WS #3 Jacob Cardenas (MICH) (16-1, 8-1 BIG): 2 WS #4 Isaiah Salazar (MINN) (14-4, 5-2 BIG): 10 WS #5 Camden McDaniel (NEB) (16-9, 5-4 BIG): 23 WS #6 Zach Braunagel (ILL) (11-5, 4-3 BIG): 13 WS #7 Evan Bates (NW) (16-8, 3-5 BIG): 18 WS #8 Gabe Sollars (IND) (15-9, 4-5 BIG): 25 WS #9 Seth Shumate (OSU) (16-12, 1-5 BIG): 19 WS #10 Remy Cotton (MSU) (12-9, 1-4 BIG): 26 WS #11 Ben Vanadia (PUR) (15-9, 0-4 BIG): 31 WS #12 PJ Casale (RUT) (8-9, 0-2 BIG): 45 WS #13 Chase Mielnik (MD) (10-14, 0-5 BIG): 50 WS #14 Niccolo Colucci (WIS) (1-11, 0-3 BIG): 78 WS 285 lbs. #1 Gable Steveson (MINN) (11-0, 7-0 BIG): 3 WS #2 Greg Kerkvliet (PSU) (16-0, 6-0 BIG): 1 WS #3 Josh Heindselman (MICH) (19-2, 7-2 BIG): 9 WS #4 Nick Feldman (OSU) (14-4, 5-3 BIG): 6 WS #5 Luke Luffman (ILL) (13-3, 5-2 BIG): 11 WS #6 Ben Kueter (IOWA) (13-5, 5-3 BIG): 12 WS #7 Yaraslau Slavikouski (RUT) (14-5, 3-4 BIG): 10 WS #8 Seth Nevills (MD) (16-4, 4-4 BIG): 13 WS #9 Jacob Bullock (IND) (16-8, 6-5 BIG): 15 WS #10 Hayden Filipovich (PUR) (11-13, 3-6 BIG): 35 WS #11 Harley Andrews (NEB) (10-12, 2-8 BIG): 33 WS #12 Max Vanadia (MSU) (15-14, 2-5 BIG): 42 WS #13 Dirk Morley (NW) (4-15, 1-7 BIG): 68 WS #14 Gannon Rosenfeld (WIS) (6-10, 0-7 BIG): 63 WS Team Standings (Based off seeds, no bonus projected) 1. Penn State - 159.5 2. Iowa - 116 3. Nebraska - 105 4. Minnesota - 86.5 5. Illinois - 74.5 6. Ohio State - 72 7. Rutgers - 54.5 8. Maryland - 52 9. Michigan - 51.5 10. Purdue - 35 11. Indiana - 26 12. Northwestern - 17 13. Wisconsin - 8.5 14. Michigan State - 2

Yes. I have updated all of the brackets now with pre-seeds except for the Southern Conference Big 10: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jT_hF3IskgPqukIIgUMAq48OEkUOBaCO/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=114338098571770399601&rtpof=true&sd=true Big 12: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18nEUOyIlkpUNvH6YUo46OPE0hHdpMYYz/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=114338098571770399601&rtpof=true&sd=true ACC: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vcKJtjKlGTkUklO14T45ZmYfxww5-Gj3/edit?gid=1385118526#gid=1385118526 EIWA: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k5uT_si9Yvk6I439L7FjblUfHnDjjPGR/edit?gid=648576163#gid=648576163 IVY: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OdkcElKLXNzwsy6Im5Esp2klyP_iyR5I/edit?gid=1374878820#gid=1374878820 MAC: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VADtsVfC_KtR2TbJkxb9jHxlU5rZL7_e/edit?gid=118361098#gid=118361098 PAC 12: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XLvodBSJ_vU0lSTFiQJirBmrli0sD87r/edit?gid=1195729550#gid=1195729550 SoCon: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XgaeOSZbTc2RLIMaK0Q0Bdjxmds_89SD/edit?gid=921301083#gid=921301083

I suddenly feel us closer to the same page…

How does one rationalize away celebrating a 13-year-old with cancer being something other than celebrating them being alive?? How does that become partisan?? How is it theatrics when it was the celebration of a 13-year-old that wasn't supposed to live as long as he did and wants to be a cop? Are we to now expect NONE of our politicians or President's to celebrate their citizens because it's "theatrics"?? Have some of you lost your freaking minds?? How you let partisan politics overshadow being a decent freaking human being is definitely a derangement syndrome...get help!

It will probably be one of the most boring matches of the weekend. Just fast forward through it to see the Starocci 2-0 win imo. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

pond scum. It saddens me that people support him

1 champ everyone knows the rules.

Coming in hot. Strong return to the forum. Welcome back.

I thought Nickal had seen a ghost when CP mentioned Zahid's name

Why would anyone be surprised that Taylor and Nickal don't get along? Don't think there's a room big enough on the planet for those two heads to fit in. Both great wrestlers. Both rank on the absolute bottom of the "guys you'd like to get a beer with" list.

Tony Cassissippi

In the hearing the lawyer for the NJSIAA said the police had detained him and his father only and were completing their investigation before deciding to whether to charge anyone. You can read their delay as based on the later attitude of the accused, or as being extra certain given that he has hired a high profile attorney and has already gone to court, so we better be sure we have this right.

DT pinned his way through? Which year was that? He used gut wrenches and leg laces as pinning holds? Impressive!

Maybe if he wasn’t 19 and still in high school law enforcement would have let it slide

Logan Streebler

I am very, very sorry to hear this news... a most well liked gentleman! Peace, always. D3

Pretty straightforward. Not that there won't be upsets, but happy to know there will be a lot less random "occurrences" in a 6 team tournament than an 18 team tournament. https://ivyleague.com/news/2025/3/3/pre-seeds-and-brackets-set-for-inaugural-ivy-league-wrestling-tournament.aspx 125 Pounds (3 automatic bids) 1. Marc-Anthony McGowan, Princeton 2. Max Gallagher, Penn 3. Diego Sotelo, Harvard 4. Marcello Milani, Cornell 5. Sulayman Bah, Columbia 6. Jared Brunner, Brown 133 Pounds (2 automatic bids) 1. Tyler Ferrara, Cornell 2. Ryan Miller, Penn 3. Hunter Adrian, Brown 4. Danny Jones, Princeton 5. Logan Brzozowski, Harvard 6. Connor Smith, Columbia 141 Pounds (4 automatic bids) 1. CJ Composto, Penn 2. Joshua Sanders, Cornell 3. Eligh Rivera, Princeton 4. Lorenzo Frezza, Columbia 5. Ian Oswalt, Brown 6. Dante Frinzi, Harvard 149 Pounds (3 automatic bids) 1. Cross Wasilewski, Penn 2. Ethan Fernandez, Cornell 3. Ty Whalen, Princeton 4. Kai Owen, Columbia 5. Joey Iamunno, Brown 6. Jaden Pepe, Harvard 157 Pounds (3 automatic bids) 1. Meyer Shapiro, Cornell 2. Jude Swisher, Penn 3. Blake Saito, Brown 4. Jimmy Harrington, Harvard 5. Jacob Mann, Princeton 6. Richard Fedalen, Columbia 165 Pounds (2 automatic bids) 1. Julian Ramirez, Cornell 2. Cesar Alvan, Columbia 3. Blaine Bergey, Princeton 4. Keegan Rothrock, Brown 5. Andrew Troczynski, Penn 6. Cael Berg, Harvard 174 Pounds (2 automatic bids) 1. Simon Ruiz, Cornell 2. Jack McGill, Columbia 3. Nick Incontrera, Penn 4. Drew Clearie, Brown 5. Xavier Giles, Princeton 6. Haden Bottiglieri, Harvard 184 Pounds (4 automatic bids) 1. Chris Foca, Cornell 2. Maximus Hale, Penn 3. Kole Mulhauser, Princeton 4. Nick Fine, Columbia 5. Andrew Reall, Brown 6. Luka Rada, Harvard 197 Pounds (2 automatic bids) 1. Luke Stout, Princeton 2. Mikey Dellagatta, Cornell 3. Joe Curtis, Columbia 4. Max Agresti, Harvard 5. Thomas Sandoval, Brown 6. Nathan Taylor, Penn 285 Pounds (1 automatic bid) 1. Ashton Davis, Cornell 2. John Pardo, Penn 3. Sebastian Garibaldi, Princeton 4. Vincent Mueller, Columbia 5. Alex Semenenko, Brown 6. Logan Marissal, Harvard

Terrible news, one of the best if not the best to ever do it

They don't seem to get. On Almost every 80/20.issue they are on the 20 side. I hope they stay there. The American voter will replace them come election time.

No he didn't he skulked off without shaking hands like a spoiled child.

Sad to hear that Mike Allen passed away last Friday. Seemed like he always had the respect of wrestlers, coaches & fans at the events he reffed. His presence & smile will be remembered. RIP Mike.

PSU rolls with who they have rather than pick up a one year guy. Iowa likes their guy. The next two big pocket books are Michigan and Oklahoma State. I think Oklahoma State wins a bidding war with Michigan. Thought here is a twist. Oklahoma State whispers sweet nothings in Isaac Trumble's ear to pick up a guy with two years left. And Ghadiali goes to Michigan.

That's bull*I poop my pants, don't laugh at me*. What do you have against sailors by equating them with swamp scum? Sailors on leave (sic) spend only their money and have to stop when it is gone. They do not make other people's grandchildren pay for their shenanigans. I know. I have been a sailor. P.S. I think you really mean on liberty. But let us not quibble about the term for cavorting in foreign ports vs being on actual vacation visiting Mom back home and eating apple pie.

That Bo would agree to throw matches is one of the absolute dumbest beliefs I've seen on this board. It's hilarious that you take umbrage with people calling Penn State cultish, and at the same time you believe they conspired to have a sacrificial younger member lose to help a senior member.

The rain and wind abruptly stopped, but the sky still had the gray swirls of storms in the distance. Dave knew this feeling all too well. The calm before the storm. He only had a limited amount of time before all Hell broke loose, but he stopped to admire the calmness. Maybe it would be different this time, he thought, with the knowledge deep within that it wouldn't. The opened package of potato chips held the answer to the mystery. Both detectives looked at it but failed to realize it was the key to solve the crime. They passed by it assuming it was random trash ensuring that the case would never be solved. Trees. It was something about the trees. The way they swayed with the wind in unison. The way they shaded the area around them. The sounds of their leaves in the wind and the creaks from the branches as they sway, The trees were making a statement that I just couldn't understand.

One of the amazing things about Satiev was that he won under 3 very different rule sets. Edit: including with push outs in 2008

That’s right. The original question was “ the last time Starocci gave up a takedown”. The answer was against Kemp in the 2nd round.

I reread your post. My bad. Misunderstood

Turns out it was 50/50. Koll won 3 matches in 1943 before leaving to fight in WWII where won the bronze star. Then returned to college and won 33 more in a row.

I didn't get to my predictions in time but here is the interative bracket for the the tournament: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OdkcElKLXNzwsy6Im5Esp2klyP_iyR5I/edit?gid=408008007#gid=408008007 Team Predictions (based off seeds and how ACC scored tournament last year, no bonus) 1. Cornell - 102.5 2. Penn - 74.5 3. Princeton - 55 4. Columbia - 37.5 5. Brown - 18 6. Harvard - 12.5

Ethan Stiles shouldn't be a dark horse, but you don't see him mentioned many places. He's had an incredible year especially down at 149.

That was before both Iowa and Okie State started "bankrolling" their lineups with mercenaries. Now we just sit back and find out who gets the best bang for their bucks. I'm not against athletes getting something for their years of dedication/training. When I was in school, we called it an education. I'm just disgusted what NIL has done widening the disparity of programs based on who can buy the best talent. More money also means better facilities, regional training centers, etc... I want to warn you ahead of time, when I hit that billion dollar Mega Powerball jack pot, Mizzou is going to suddenly be in the relevant conversation with the "Royal Rich!"

I think dropping to a knee when not in contact with the opponent should be stalling. Or at least there should be a count before stalling is called. I also think the count should be cumulative for that AND for grasping an ankle while on top.

I'm confused why Logan Stieber, Kyle Dake, Pat Smith, Yianni...I don't see why what they've done without this year is more impressive. I think Brooks was pretty damn impressive as well as Cael(obviously). I just saw a list that had them ranked(heading into last year) 1-Cael, 2-Dake, 3-Yianni(took an L as a Sr), 4-Stieber, 5-Smith If we're going after Starocci for his style...I'm not sure why Dake gets extra points. For beating Taylor? The 4 weights? He rode the piss outta guys, he wasn't overly offensive. Stieber- He was Oliver knowing the rules that year away from not being on the list. I'm too ignorant about Pat Smith's career to speak intelligently about it, so I won't(but being the first is impressive). I'll also add, people talk about Lee Kemp with amazing reverence(well deserved) but did his style differ from Starocci? I'd guess he was more conservative than "cstall" was/is. He very easily could have been the first 4X Champ, referees decision as a Freshmen, then three titles. As it pertains to the extra year, It ain't easy to go through 6 years...as we've seen. I don't know how many Wrestlers have finished their careers worse, but it's a few. Guys who have worn down or gotten beaten up. In fact...he did that just last year. Hurt his knee and took out two former Champs in Griffin and Mekhi Lewis. And it's not impressive enough for what seems to be MOST of the board? Again, I'll reiterate, I find him to be a little obnoxious at times and I always find these ranking discussions a bit reductive. Mitchell Mesenbrink won't be considered as great as ANY 4X Champ because he lost a 9-8 decision on RT to David Carr as a Freshmen? He Wrestled in a weight class that may have 2 2X Champs and was widely considered the toughest weight, it would certainly appear as though he'd on his way to an absolutely dominant career where he may not lose again...and could tech his way through it. But he's not going to be a 3X Champ. Obviously not as Lee Kemp's never ranked ahead of those 4X Champs. How about Zain Retherford? He had a 4X Champ who he beat his Freshmen year...stopping him from winning 4. So yes, we've decided...collectively that 4 is greater than 3...at least going back to the days of Uetake and guys who couldn't Wrestle 4 years, but a guy winning his 5th is...'meh.' I rooted for him to come back for a 5th year because I enjoy excellence. I'm not a Penn St fan...beyond the fact that I appreciate excellence. I think winning a 5th does mean something. I don't know that every other guy who won 4 would have won a 5th. I don't know that Stieber holds of Zain another year. Smith won a 6-2 and a 5-3 match in the Semis and Finals his Sr year and then the next year, that was the same year Lincoln Mcllravy got beaten in a crazy match stopping his attempt to win 4. I also know aside from the two close matches, he won a 7-6 match over Tom Ryan and a 5-4 match over Scott Hovan. So no, I don't think you can just assume they'd have all won it. I don't think you have to take anything away from them for not having the chance, but you can recognize that going through the grind once more and coming out unscathed(assuming he does) over a guy who has gone 3/3/2/1 with Aaron Brooks winning the weight those 4 years, it's an accomplishment. It's NOT nothing, it does matter. Does anyone remember or care about those close Pat Smith matches?(asking genuinely as I don't recall and I couldn't begin to tell you what his bonus rate was). This is all such a...disingenuous way to look at these Wrestlers accomplishments, but there's a thread right now about Starocci and how he's such a staller because a SUPREMELY talented Freshmen who Wrestled on one knee and on the out of bounds line all match(which is understandable, he's facing a 4X NC as a True Freshmen and it's a big duel) didn't lose by that much? LOL...this is all ridiculous. The "pre-emptive" keeping him off of a fictional Mt Rushmore. I'd just like to reiterate, every point I made about each Wrestler potentially losing, it's not meant to diminish them. There are 10 champs a year and we've become pretty cavalier about how hard it is to be one of them(I damn sure wasn't) and instead of using an argument to build a Wrestler UP...like Kyle Dake winning it at 4 different weights and being such a dominant defensive Wrestler and so great on top or Aaron Brooks insane defense and dominance in the underhook...or Cael, which is self-explanatory, it sounds like a Twitter bitshing about LeBron or Jordan. Yeah, I got my opinion, but you're not convincing me by trying to take AWAY from the greatness of any of them. How's that for overthinking it? Just Mark Twain stream of consciousness...sans the coherence, wit or...talent of Twain, but...at least one similarity!