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He is, but before those two, how many world-level studs appeared out of maryland? I mentally take the average across time since ~1970 and today, and if it gets more crowded than one for every 20 years, not a generational talent. I don’t know any Maryland wrestling history prior to snyder.

Uh…brooks was a 4x champ up with the big boys and just dethroned the olympic champion at his weight. Last time that happened was…Cael? That was a generation ago, sounds generational to me. It really depends on scope though. If you say talent out of maryland, yes generational talent. Takent out of the PSU room? Well, he kinda just did what was expected. To be honest to the word, generational talents in coaching would be gable and cael, and on the mat would be baumgartner, smith, jb, snyder, saitiev, and sadulaev.

I’m just talking about his level of polish. There is a 1/2 hour interview with him that intermat put out, and the dude truly sounded like someone who knows how to navigate the institution, he sounds like an administrator as much as a coach, which is the primary point of difficulty for most wrestling programs, they are unable to build and maintain a positive relationship with their own schools in a meaningfully positive way. Agreed on the results part, but if more coaches sounded like Valenti(which only comes with gaining real institutional knowledge), shutdowns of programs wouldn’t be such a concern.

Listening to his intermat interview gave some very interesting insight into the depth of the "CEO" side of things that head coaches have to handle outside of the room. If that's what it's like for all head coaches it's remarkable they have more than a few minutes to be in the room coaching at all.

To be clear, they are holding the justice system and government accountable to their own rules. Those rules, limitations, and mechanisms for accountability are what keeps our country from really sucking fat donkey weiner.

Mmm…well, Columbia has quietly been leaning into the China market, along with data manipulation, for a long time. There are two things that drive away chinese applicants, race issues and riots. So…yeah that’s not going to go well. Columbia has good professional schools, but a major part of that is tied to the ability for the school to maintain good relationships with the firms in Manhattan. Having this sort if crap happen absolutely raises eyebrows at those companies, and not in a good way. Add that on top of the fact that…that sort of divisionist activism is completely antithetical to prospective college wrestlers…yeah not good for the wrestling, but it is similarly antithetical to alumni and recruiters. This sort of thing is much closer to being quite bad for these schools than the schools themselves believe. NYU shot its own foot off last year…that’s not going away for a long time. Columbia HAS been very good for a very long time, but their are a lot of schools that want that prestige instead, and will manage their institutions accordingly to take that place.

Valenti is a very polished coach and a very polished administrator. He might be the best spoken (future) coach in the league right now. Coaches at similar institutions should really take a listen and consider sending some of their guys into the AD administration trees, it clearly has prepared Valenti VERY well to become the future helmsman of the Penn program. He’s very smart in the way he is constantly giving credit to other people with just about every sentence that comes out of his mouth.

The shine is pretty aggressively coming off of “elite” institutions because it is becoming so apparent what the student experience on these campuses will be. Ultimately the relationships you build at a school like that are the most valuable thing they offer, and there is a rapidly growing distance between alums, students, “administration”, it’s all getting pulled in rapid directions, but one of the key hallmarks is that students emerge from a school like that with a highly capable and (relatively) WELL BALANCED approach to the world, at least to the degree of being functional within institutions. It is a story old as time that complacency leads to “creep” of undesirable and unexpected ills. We are finding out now that this has already been happening for a LONG time. As with many ailments, once something starts hurting or visibly looking bad, it has been building for a long time.

Not to give an obnoxious answer, but very likely structured like the old soviet/current chinese state sponsored system, with japan and s. korea providing the strongest technique influences. South Korea is filthy at Judo, and obviously Japan is a grappling mecca, nasty both in wrestling and obviously judo, so wrestling success is not that crazy a notion. System-wise, in a structure like that, coaches and programs go around to all elementary schools checking kids for size, joint structure, mobility, mindset, etc, and funnel kids into whichever sport they are the best fit for. Ever notice how chinese weightlifters all have identical proportions? That’s not by accident.

Bader gave a great interview with him on the most recent version of the Bader show. Dude is beyond a gentleman, just a wonderful soul and a tremendous role model. I legitimately cannot think of anyone I would choose as a better role model to show a young person, let alone a wrestler. There are few wrestlers who transcend the sport itself in the example they set and being a legit role model for any athlete or any person anywhere. J'den is one of those few. If you haven't watched it, definitely check out the episode. We are lucky to have J'den as a part of the sport. https://www.flowrestling.org/events/6197840-the-bader-show/videos?playing=12478080&limit=60

I think the writing is basically on the wall for JB and Taylor, we're just waiting to see if they go for the consolation special in september at an off weight. 74/79kg - 'Cenzo, Berger and Monday.

Dude is hilarious... "when are you gonna pick up your end of the coach?"

If they were to paint with a broad brush, I'd say the average evaluation is "wealthy bulldozers with good gas tanks and sub-par match tactics" would be my guess. My guess though is they don't actually say anything about any one wrestler more than our guys do about any one of their wrestlers.

To answer the actual question...he definitely has people who beat him in that room, that's why he moved there. Dake can try to do what he wants to someone like brooks, that dude's neck is almost as big as his waist, no matter what happens, he's coming forward at you. Also, considering he's the #2 wrestling mind in the country, being around the #1 wrestling mind in the country very likely had something to do with it. People who beat dake right now I'd say include Cael Varner Snyder Brooks Nickal But realistically, I don't think anybody below 197 is giving him a go. He's just too smart, too good at putting together game plans.

I think it would be way more entertaining if everyone bad to be good in both styles, and if they coin flipped the day of to decide if they would be wrestling freestyle or greco. One of the big problems with greco is the most entertaining and/or most successful young greco guys wind up going freestyle bc folkstyle requires and rewards it more. It is a must acknowledge, that folkstyle really limits greco’s development.