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England: Button Gwinnett, Robert Morris, William Richardson Davie. Ireland: George Taylor, William Paterson, and other delegates born on the island. Northern Ireland: James Smith, Matthew Thornton. Scotland: James Wilson, John Witherspoon, Edward Telfair. Wales: Francis Lewis. British West Indies (Caribbean): Alexander Hamilton (born on the island of Nevis). Not sure that's very few but point taken- I was really mixing groups to the original group that did come over and how many of the actual founding fathers (Jefferson, Franklin, Paine, Madison, Hamilton and others) were Deists or at least influenced by them

A number of you need to actually study US History (and pre-history). For one thing, although the majority of those that became the founding fathers were at one time Christians, one of the reasons they came over was to have more religious freedom to NOT have to worship in the Anglican system. Please research the concept of Deism. An argument can be made against whether atheism was originally considered valid under their plans. Please read the couple of phrases in the Declaration- Nature's God and the Creator. What Christian do you know that uses those phrases (especially Nature's God)?

I wouldn't fret over him!

1st NCAAs 1928. Ben (~2 years younger brother) was a 2x NCAA champ graduating only a year earlier than John. It might have been named after Ben but he learned from John Lampe (Iowa St teammate)

He was NAIA and placed 5th there as a senior.

For Lehigh- Trenge mentioned earlier. His best year to win might have been his freshman year when he had the retinal injury and he had beaten both finalists. Colin Kilrain- 3x 3rd. Seeded 3rd/1st/1st. Lost 12-11 to Ed Banach in semis soph year. Joe Peritore- 2nd/2nd/3rd. Both 2nds were to 2x Olympic Gold and 3x NCAA 1st Yojiro Uetake. Some of you know this story (mostly the Lehigh people). His junior year final had Uetake winning but he was taking it easy (they knew each other). The ref called Uetake for stalling. Uetake says- "Sorry Joe" and pinned him. As Peritore walked off the mat and passed the ref- he told him- "Next time mind you own f$%^in' business!"

Why would Kevin be at EIWAs?

He'd have to

Do you mean because Russia couldn't beat Afghanistan?

Interesting how the 15 sheriffs were elected and all republican but you say not politicians!

Wasn't that "pre-poned"?

Depends on your definition but ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrestling_at_the_1904_Summer_Olympics

When I started out watching this (50+ years ago) the Soviets were mostly killing us outside of our very top guys. They showed they could score when tired. I read Yuri Shakmuradov's (Soviet coach 60s/70s) book on their 5 year program. First, they National Sports Org would often decide for you what sport based on various measurements and observations. I remember Sergei telling us while he was at Lehigh that if guys went up on the high dive and looked good coming down- they would be divers, but if they just had the nerve to go up and jump off they were probably crazy enough to wrestle! Early on most would play futbol to gain basic motor skills. They might not start wrestling until mid-teens and then be world class by late teens early twenties. So yes, they spend time on technique and strategy.

How often two from same HS meet at worlds?