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It's important for a staff to be in-sync with their signals.
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The best part of the video is the dude smoking on the ISU bench.
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Mendez....Woods....Bartlett...Jack....Hardy...McNeil I say Mendez...at this point in time. He's jumped a few levels since last season in terms of defense and top game.4 points
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I think part of the reason for PSUs success is they’ve developed a method of signaling strategy without showing their lips. Contrast that with the Brands’ for example, who crudely yell out strategy and point fingers for all to hear and see.3 points
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Did you watch the US Open a month before he wrestled Zahid? His knee and elbow were hanging together with bubblegum and duct tape. But you knew that before your troll comment didn't you?3 points
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I hate the narrative about Moore. He had one "bad" NCAA tournament, where he finished 4th, and one "bad" dual meet loss in his career, and other than that was a model of consistency his whole career. It's a lazy take.3 points
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Are you a Penn State fan by chance?3 points
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Tom Ryan is a good coach, great recruiter and seems like an all around great guy. 99% of programs would take him in a heartbeat.3 points
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i think Pyles is one of the best guys to call a match that we have in the sport. he really knows tendencies and arsenals - i.e. what to watch for. the pool is small, but there's not too many wrestling announcers that are better.3 points
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Correct throw is the most trash move ever. Didn’t hit your move? Don’t worry no problem you can have a couple points or at least just start over. Doesn’t matter about defense. Garbage. It’s the one time where folk is superior to free.2 points
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This might be a good point. Interesting for sure. mspart2 points
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He's a smart kid and was always great student. Also an All State FB player.2 points
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It's a shame no dual between the 2 teams again this year2 points
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I'm not sure but the first match looked to me like, he forgot how to wrestle...2 points
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kind of a tangent, a friend of mine who was a d3 champ once said to me that he never listened to his corner at all, to which i asked why, and he said "Because I was listening to the other guys corner."2 points
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So you don't have proof...got it. Average population of people over 65 by state...Florida ranked 2nd....California ranked 45th... (Which U.S. States Have the Oldest Populations? | PRB)...yes I know I used 2022. Here is the CDC's page where you can look up deaths associated with Covid for all demographics by state. Take away, as once again, the data shows the rona was drastically more impactful to the older population...I mean it's not even close (ex. in FL of the 81,894 deaths, 78,380 were 50 and over, and in CA of the 129,249 deaths, 100,473 were over 50). COVID-19 Provisional Counts - Weekly Updates by Select Demographic and Geographic Characteristics (cdc.gov) And I won't even get into HOW the Covid deaths were counted...that has been hashed out so many times and still can't believe people don't care how they were counted...but ignorance is bliss for some.2 points
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I feel the committee had been playing with fire most years and that it would to come back to bite them in the butt.2 points
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Every single one of them (at the D1 level) is in danger if the NCAA ever lifts the minimum sport sponsorship requirement to be Division I.2 points
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This process is interesting to me. I'm not a cfb fan, but I think the discussion here is a fair representation of the selection committee's thought processes. Some of the comments and I assume committee decisions are antithetical to how sports work. Margin of victory is meaningless. Anybody else remember how much better David Taylor is than Kyle Dake, and why?2 points
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Concussions.... leg hits... jet lag.... the flu... How about he's a really good wrestler, who is young and learning and took some losses? He's going to be fine. Probably woke up this morning thinking, "Wow what a relief to get a loss out of the way so those intermat posters can lay off now." Some of you might want to get your copy and paste ready when. Messenbrink loses2 points
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In high school, the call is often used when someone tries to get a PD by standing up with legs in, or throwing a leg in after the opponent stands up. Fairly common, and happened in OT of PA state finals this year. Repeatedly forcing re-starts by utilizing a referee's PD call is a stall.2 points
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Based on the rankings there were 96 matches where the lower ranked wrestler won. I don’t think that’s predictable, but happy to hear your thoughts. https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/11563528-every-upset-at-the-2023-cliff-keen-las-vegas-invitational2 points
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If everyone was a counter wrestler, no one would ever watch the sport2 points
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Backing up is stalling. Waiting for an opponent to shoot so you can counter is stalling.2 points
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Much was made about how difficult and deep this tournament was. Without hyperbole, it’s accurate to say it was the best regular-season collegiate tournament since perhaps the 2014 Southern Scuffle. I discussed this with the FloWrestling personnel and we came up with the 2014 tournament as the best comparison. That tournament featured the teams that would end up finishing top-three at the NCAA Tournament that same season. Penn State, Minnesota, and Oklahoma State. That tournament may have had more top-end star power; with three eventual NCAA champions; however, this field was likely deeper. An example of this is the 184 lb weight class that had four All-Americans miss the podium. Iowa State won the tournament and finished with seven medalists (1 champion and 2 runner’s-up). The only two past NCAA champions in this tournament (David Carr - Shane Griffith) both failed to make the finals. David Carr was beaten in the CKLV semifinals by Cornell’s Julian Ramirez. Both of Carr’s regular-season losses have come in the semifinals of this tournament. The previous one came in 2019 to Northwestern’s Ryan Deakin. The finals only had one matchup featuring two wrestles that previously met in college; 157 lbs. Like the previous meeting, Peyton Robb prevailed over Jacori Teemer. The only finals match that featured wrestlers from the same conference was 184 lbs with Parker Keckeisen (Northern Iowa) and Will Feldkamp (Iowa State). The finals had a pair of wrestlers that used to be teammates at Northern Illinois University. Izzak Olejnik at 165 lbs and Feldkamp. Perhaps the most surprising team performance was Stanford. The Cardinal finished with a champion (Nico Provo - 125 lbs) and five other placewinners. Five of their six placewinners were either freshmen or sophomores. Stanford’s talent (and youth) makes their move to the ACC an even more interesting proposition. The ACC seems to get better and better each year. Now throw a young, star-studded Stanford team into the mix and you have a mini-meat grinder. Speaking of conferences, the Big 12 produced the most champions with four. (Olejnik, DeVos, Keckeisen, and Bastida). The Big Ten was next with three (Mendez, Lovett, Robb). The 2023 tournament marked the first time that Michigan went without a champion since 2015 (There was no 2020 tournament). The 125 lb final featured a pair of wrestlers that originally committed to Cornell. Provo defeated current Big Red starter, Brett Ungar. Nebraska’s Peyton Robb was named the tournament’s Outstanding Wrestling. His win at one of the tournament’s most difficult weights was reason enough for the award. It’s more staggering when you consider that he nearly lost his leg in the days following the 2023 NCAA Tournament. The 2023 CKLV Invitational featured three champions who moved up in weight from the 2022-23 campaign. Jesse Mendez (133/141), Trent Hidlay (184/197), and Yonger Bastida (197/285). This year’s finals saw a pair of wrestlers win their second titles (Peyton Robb - 157 and Trent Hidlay - 197). Two other champions had the opportunity to repeat in Brock Hardy (Nebraska) and Julian Ramirez (Cornell). Hardy finished sixth and Ramirez was the runner-up at 165 lbs. Stanford’s Tyler Knox (5th - 133), Virginia Tech’s Sonny Sasso (6th - 197), Stanford’s Lorenzo Norman (7th - 174), and Joey Novak (8th - 197) were the only true freshmen that found their way onto the CKLV podium. Much was made about upsets and deservedly so. However, 141, 149, and 165 all saw the top four seeds make the semifinals. Additionally, 197 and 285 had the top three seeds, plus the fifth seed. The Ironman award goes to Nic Bouzakis at 133 lbs. Bouzakis fell in the opening round to Knox of Stanford and proceeded to win seven straight bouts to take third. During that run, he had three falls, two techs and a major decision before defeating #14 Dom Zaccone (Campbell) for third place. Runner-up in the Ironman category is Ed Scott who lost in the second round then won six straight to take third at 157 lbs. His run through the backside included wins over All-Americans in his final two matches.1 point -
Deakin vs Teamer NCAA semi’s. This was/is a favorite finish for Deakin, I saw him use it in a number of other matches too. He uses it when he hits a sweep single and can’t get out of a wizzer down on the mat, he reaches the outside hand across to the foot of the leg he’s attacking, wraps all the way around to the heel, and just hips in/turns away as hard as possible. It’s the peewee dirty move special, he made sure to go right to it after teamer put him on his back in a cradle. It’s effectively an inside heel hook. It’s disgusting to see and to learn about a wrestler.1 point
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The process and arguments remind me of the Hodge voting and posting when reigning Olympic champion Kyle Snyder took a back seat.1 point
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Just watched Mesenbrink’s match. That kid is a terror. PSU kids generally have good motors. But Mesenbrink is going at a rate that most can’t match for a period, let alone the entire match. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk1 point
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Why did I know fly would jump on this.1 point
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I have enough confidence in the Cornell coaches that they wouldn't risk putting Shapiro in any unnecessary harm this early in his season/career. If they thought he could "push through" then I suspect it is nothing serious. He is a freshman. Sometimes freshman lose matches you wouldn't think they would.1 point
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in conjunction with these points, the impulse to construct a narrative around everything is stupid and gross....but clicks1 point
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Jetlag, concussion,mono,herpes, covid,Ivy league school, women. Come on, we need to agree on something to stick with. Let's wait til the Cleric Pyles or the all knowing JD are able to clear this up. Btw, He won world's in Free, which is not nearly as taxing as folk. Winning over Andonian will gas ya. Then you have to wrestle a tough kid that's lost 3 matches in College so far. He gassed. But I'll wait for FRL to confirm my suspicion.1 point
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High school allows an official to make a stall call anytime a wrestler repeatedly intentionally creates a PD situation.1 point
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Two weeks after Brooks dunks on the returning NCAA finalist at the weight, he’s ducking Beard. Well done. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk1 point
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I'm with Midwest. I thought it was very exciting and had a ton of high quality wrestlers taking part.1 point
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So you predicted Nico Provo beating Brett Ungar in the finals at 125? And you predicted Lorenzo Norman beating Shane Griffith? What about Izzak Olejnik over Julian Ramirez for the title and David Carr over Cam Amine for 3RD!!! Come on now. This is a bad take, even for Mr. Cinnabon.1 point
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Not sure if you're trolling or not. But I wholeheartedly disagree. It lived up to every bit of hype it got.1 point
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no once he lost. maybe he just couldn't handle it. He'll mature a little and be fine.1 point
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That’s silly. He’s a world champion, and he didn’t look overwhelmed against Andonian.1 point
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I think he was just overwhelmed. the kid had ridiculous expectation thrust on him by people farming clicks.1 point
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He had Hofstra as a top ten program in the country. His wrestlers have won World and Olympic Titles. He coached a 4xNCAA champion. He won a team title and several Big Ten titles. It's easy to see what someone is doing wrong when they're doing so much right. Also keep in mind that he's stuck coaching in the Cael Sanderson era. Cael is our current coaching GOAT. If not for Cael.....1 point
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He is hurt, possibly from the end of the Andonian match (he received a leg hit to the leg in the final scramble). Early in his second match, there was a high-speed scramble that ended off camera, followed by the Cornell corner coming over. The ref then gave the "fist to the forehead" sign indicating concussion protocol, which was not initiated. It was pretty clear that there was a head issue after that. Really surprised he was allowed to continue. I'll be surprised if he goes to the Collegiate Duals in two weeks. He does not have a conditioning problem, that is clear.1 point
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They have two #1 ranked recruiting classes competing this year, yet they are projected to finish eleventh. Perhaps after this tournament their projected finish will improve, but eleventh is rough given their recruiting.1 point
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Cliff Keen Las Vegas Invitational Final Results Team Scores 1. Iowa State 130.5 2. Nebraska 125.5 3. Ohio State 123.5 4. NC State 115 5. Oregon State 98.5 6. Cornell 93.5 7. Stanford 85.5 8. Michigan 81.5 9. Oklahoma State 78.5 10. South Dakota State 74 Championship Finals 125: Nico Provo (Stanford) dec Brett Ungar (Cornell) 5-1 133: Kai Orine (NC State) maj Evan Frost (Iowa State) 12-4 141: Jesse Mendez (Ohio State) dec Ryan Jack (NC State) 5-2 149: Ridge Lovett (Nebraska) dec Caleb Henson (Virginia Tech) 4-3 157: Peyton Robb (Nebraska) dec Jacori Teemer (Arizona State) 6-4 165: Izzak Olejnik (Oklahoma State) dec Julian Ramirez (Cornell) 4-2 174: Cade Devos (South Dakota State) dec Travis Wittlake (Oregon State) 9-7 184: Parker Keckeisen (Northern Iowa) maj Will Feldkamp (Iowa State) 14-4 197: Trent Hidlay (NC State) dec Jaxon Smith (Maryland) 5-2 285: Yonger Bastida (Iowa State) dec Lucas Davison (Michigan) 5-3 Third Place Matches 125: Caleb Smith (Nebraska) dec Brandon Kaylor (Oregon State) 4-1SV 133: Nic Bouzakis (Ohio State) dec Dom Zaccone (Campbell) 4-2 141: Lachlan McNeil (North Carolina) dec Cael Happel (Northern Iowa) 6-3 149: Kyle Parco (Arizona State) maj Dylan D’Emilio (Ohio State) 11-1 157: Ed Scott (NC State) maj Bryce Andonian (Virginia Tech) 18-7 165: David Carr (Iowa State) dec Cam Amine (Michigan) 3-1 174: Carson Kharchla (Ohio State) dec Danny Wask (Navy) 10-3 184: Dustin Plott (Oklahoma State) dec Lenny Pinto (Nebraska) 11-7 197: Tanner Sloan (South Dakota State) dec Jacob Cardenas (Cornell) 7-2 285: Taye Ghadiali (Campbell) dec Boone McDermott (Oregon State) 15-6 Fifth Place Matches 125: Jore Volk (Wyoming) MedFFT Michael DeAugustino (Michigan) 133: Tyler Knox (Stanford) MedFFT Derrick Cardinal (South Dakota State) 141: Tagen Jamison (Oklahoma State) maj Brock Hardy (Nebraska) 13-5 149: Casey Swiderski (Iowa State) maj Nash Singleton (Iowa State) 13-4 157: Daniel Cardenas (Stanford) dec Will Lewan (Michigan) 12-10 165: Garrett Thompson (Ohio) fall Hunter Garvin (Stanford) 5:50 174: Sal Perrine (Ohio) dec Austin Murphy (Campbell) 8-5SV 184: Sam Wolf (Air Force) dec Jaden Bullock (Michigan) 10-9 197: Silas Allred (Nebraska) dec Sonny Sasso (Virginia Tech) 8-5 285: Grady Griess (Navy) MedFFT Nick Feldman (Ohio State) Seventh Place Matches 125: Matt Ramos (Purdue) dec Tanner Jordan (South Dakota State) 7-3 133: Julian Farber (Northern Iowa) dec Ethan Oakley (Appalachian State) 10-9 141: Anthony Echemendia (Iowa State) maj Vince Cornella (Cornell) 13-3 149: Gabe Willochell (Wyoming) MedFFT Jackson Arrington (NC State) 157: Paddy Gallagher (Ohio State) dec Trevor Chumbley (Northwestern) 9-5 165: Matthew Olguin (Oregon State) maj Brevin Cassella (Binghamton) 13-0 174: Lorenzo Norman (Stanford) dec MJ Gaitan (Iowa State) 11-8 184: Dylan Fishback (NC State) maj Sam Fisher (Virginia Tech) 16-4 197: Nick Stemmet (Stanford) dec Joey Novak (Wyoming) 14-7 285: Cory Day (Binghamton) MedFFT Lewis Fernandes (Cornell)1 point -
Apparently Knox bonused his way through 2 D3 tourneys last year as a high schooler. He needs to hire Bo Bassett’s social media team1 point
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Good choices. Marstellar seems like a great guy and a great story, but some stuff may scare off a risk averse (almost all) AD. Green is great with this group. Taylor seems to go back and forth. D1 coach was a goal of his, then I heard he was enjoying his club too much, now it seems like he's interested in the big time again.1 point
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That is a big ass down.1 point
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Ooooh someone just wants me to quintuple down on the gamesmanship coming out of Happy Valley. Well fine. I can keep going. At this rate I’ll exponential down on myself more times than Katie Ledecky has world medals.1 point
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