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(Sung to the tune of "It's The Most Wonderful Time of the Year." ... picture Andy Williams sing it on a wrestling mat. ) It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year... Conference Qualifiers, NCAA spots are near... ARE YOU IN SUCH GOOD CHEER?!? It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year! It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year... Spencer is Going For 4, Yianni is going for more... TWO 4 X'ers ARE NEAR! It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year! It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year... The Nits ARE ALL IN, (They're Going To WIN,) All The REST are HAS-BEENS?!? It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year! It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year... All the teams are practicing, wrestlers are weight cutting, WILL GLORY MAKE WEIGHT ( ... and survive?!?) IT'S THE MOST WONDERFUL TIME OF THE YEAR! Hey... you too can join in the fun! We got ALL WEEK! Put in your phrase and add to it! THE POST SEASON BECKONS! cheers! D3

Here's a little history lesson for the board: Before World War II, the committee put out these pre-seeds: 1. Germany 2. Japan 3. Great Britain 4. Russia 5. Italy 6. Austria 7. France 8. THE U.S. OF ******-******* A. They actually seeded the French surrender monkeys ahead of Uncle Sam. But their chicanery failed! The United States won both brackets, in Europe and in the Pacific. My friends, if you believe---if deep in your heart you really believe---in our country, in our flag, in our way of life, then you know that the ILLINI will triumph over all odds and against all comers just like the good old USofMFingA. As history repeats itself.

@jajensen09 austin emerson listed at HWT for the Huskers.

As preseeds come up, I am updating my interactive brackets so that you play out different scenarios and see how it effects team scoring To advance wrestlers: D = Decision M = Major T = Tech Fall F = Fall (or any other combination of MFF, def., etc.) X = Bye Big 10 Interactive Bracket Big 12 Interactive Bracket (this is obviously not 100% because I don't believe we know the random draws of the unseeded wrestlers until the day of the tournament)

I was one minute too late to include this in my above post, so I'll put it here....this is my pass/ticket collection since 1970...I put it in special effect to protect my innocence. 43 NCAA's/37 in row.....many Big Tens, Midlands, USA/USSR, World Cups and more. Fadz

In the words of the great Bluto Blutarsky: WAS IT OVER WHEN THE GERMANS BOMBED PEARL HARBOR? HELL NO!

Switzerland came in as the 33 seed with a record of 0-0 but everyone knew they were the absolute best when choosing neutral

I really like history now, it was not one if my favorite subjects in high school, clearly I was not paying attention when the WWII committee pre-seeds were discussed. Thank you IWB for a very enlightening history lesson.

125 lbs. Spencer Lee (IOWA) Liam Cronin (NEB) Matt Ramos (PUR) Eric Barnett (WIS) Patrick McKee (MINN) Michael DeAugustino (NU) Malik Heinselman (OSU) Braxton Brown (MD) Dean Peterson (RU) Jack Medley (MICH) Gary Steen (PSU) Tristan Lujan (MSU) Jacob Moran (IND) Maximo Renteria (ILL) 133 lbs. Roman Bravo-Young (PSU) Jesse Mendez (OSU) Lucas Byrd (ILL) Chris Cannon (NU) Dylan Ragusin (MICH) Aaron Nagao (MINN) Joe Heilmann (RU) Brody Teske (IOWA) RayVon Foley (MSU) Taylor LaMont (WIS) Henry Porter (IND) Kyle Burwick (NEB) Dustin Norris (PUR) Jackson Cockrell (MD) 141 lbs. Real Woods (IOWA) Beau Bartlett (PSU) Brock Hardy (NEB) Frankie Tal Shahar (NU) Jakob Bergeland (MINN) Danny Pucino (ILL) Joseph Olivieri (RU) Parker Filius (PUR) Dylan D’Emilio (OSU) Cole Mattin (MICH) Joseph Zargo (WIS) Jordan Hamdan (MSU) Cayden Rooks (IND) Kal Miller (MD) 149 lbs. Sammy Sasso (OSU) Austin Gomez (WIS) Yahya Thomas (NU) Max Murin (IOWA) Shayne Van Ness (PSU) Michael Blockhus (MINN) Graham Rooks (IND) Ethen Miller (MD) Chance Lamer (MICH) Tony White (RU) Dayne Morton (NEB) Jake Harrier (ILL) Peyton Omania (MSU) Jaden Reynolds (PUR) 157 lbs. Peyton Robb (NEB) Levi Haines (PSU) Kendall Coleman (PUR) Chase Saldate (MSU) Cobe Siebrecht (IOWA) Will Lewan (MICH) Michael Carr (ILL) Trevor Chumbley (NU) Garrett Model (WIS) Derek Gilcher (IND) Brayton Lee (MINN) Paddy Gallagher (OSU) Andrew Clark (RU) Michael North (MD) 165 lbs. Dean Hamiti (WIS) Cameron Amine (MICH) Patrick Kennedy (IOWA) Alex Facundo (PSU) Carson Kharchla (OSU) Caleb Fish (MSU) Maxx Mayfield (NU) Danny Braunagel (ILL) Andrew Sparks Bubba Wilson (NEB) Nick South (IND) Robert Kanniard (RU) Stony Buell (PUR) John Martin Best (MD) 174 lbs. Carter Starocci (PSU) Mikey Labriola (NEB) Ethan Smith (OSU) Bailee O’Reilly (MINN) Edmond Ruth (ILL) DJ Washington (IND) Nelson Brands (IOWA) Troy Fisher (NU) Max Maylor (MICH) Jackson Turley (RU) Ceasar Garza (MSU) Dominic Solis (MD) Josh Otto (WIS) Cooper Noehre (PUR) 184 lbs. Aaron Brooks (PSU) Kaleb Romero (OSU) Isaiah Salazar (MINN) Matt Finesilver (MICH) Abe Assad (IOWA) Layne Malczewski (MSU) Lenny Pinto (NEB) Brian Soldano (RU) Dylan Connell (ILL) Tyler Dow (WIS) Evan Bates (NU) Ben Vanadia (PUR) Clayton Fielden (IND) Kevin Makosy (MD) 197 lbs. Max Dean (PSU) Silas Allred (NEB) Zac Braunagel (ILL) Cameron Caffey (MSU) Jacob Warner (IOWA) Jaxon Smith (MD) Gavin Hoffman (OSU) Braxton Amos (WIS) Michial Foy (MINN) Nick Willham (IND) Billy Janzer (RU) Andrew Davison (NU) Brendin Yatooma (MICH) Hayden Filipovich (PUR) 285 lbs. Mason Parris (MICH) Greg Kerkvliet (PSU) Tony Cassioppi (IOWA) Lucas Davison (NU) Trent Hillger (WIS) Boone McDermott (RU) Tate Orndoff (OSU) Jacob Bullock (IND) Jaron Smith (MD) Hayden Copass (PUR) Garrett Joles (MINN) Ryan Vasbinder (MSU) Matt Wroblewski (ILL) Austin Emerson (NEB)

it just keeps coming back.

Yes, it called the quack rate. Wkn has 3 tables on it.

Shoulda, coulda been reversed two or three times in third, ref wouldn't call it. Finally an escape and then a quick td at end. I don't know if it was camera angle that made Griffith look off, if he really was or more likely Pendleton is just a good coach, guess will find out for sure in P12.

Having listened to Askren on FRL talk about his youth coaching philosophy I think he means something like this (it is always risky speaking for others, but here goes). Askren does not believe in putting very young wrestlers in tournaments and traveling all over. I do not remember what he thinks is the appropriate age to start competitions, but it is older than many. He has also talked about having parents push him to change his philosophy, and he simply tells them no and perhaps another club would work better for them (and maybe not that diplomatically). He clearly knows what he is talking about, so it is hard for parents to challenge him on this. He has the personal results to back it up, and now he has the coaching results to back it up. As off the wall as Askren can act sometimes, and as strange as some of his takes are on other topics, when I listen to him talk about youth wrestling he makes a ton of sense.

A very poorly written story designed to create an image not supported by facts. Slander an libal are not even comparable. Asking one's employer to reel in their employee isn't close to silencing someone. There is no excuse for what Twitter did.

Not exactly. For example, Penn State and Ohio State have over 30 sports and show an actual appreciation for non-revenue and Olympic sports. It's easy to spot the difference - P5's cutting sports like cross country and tennis and golf due to "expense" is the biggest farce.

Burwick is wrestling at B1Gs

Arujau is definitely not a sleeper. 133 along with many other weight classes just don't get discussed much on this board. The board spends more time talking about if Spencer Lee could beat Cael Sanderson when in their primes or is so & so a "meanie".

All it would take for this situation to be resolved is a quick signature from Bono. He won't sign it

https://bigten.org/news/2023/2/27/general-big-ten-wrestling-pre-seeds-announced.aspx

Can't wait, but first things first....conference championships....for me the Big Ten and then onto number 43/37 in a row....not my first rodeo. Fadz

Bimp D3

Obviously the committee was unaware of the big moves the US and GB had been practicing.

Full homer is relative. Other Iowa fans may be more or less generous.

Stanford's #11 ranked wrestler at 149 would have been Jaden Abas. It appears that he did not wrestle in the dual and Arroyo filled in. Very nice win for Olguin though.

Fix should come to the tourney as a wild card and face Roman mano a mano!! mspart

Could've been seven good posts.

Wrestleknownothing explained it pretty well. I’ll also add that there are many club coaches that would do things similarly if they could. The problem is that, for 95%+ of guys, if you actually want to build a sustainable club financially. You have to cater to the parents that do the toxic stuff. They’re almost always the ones most willing to spend the money

Alumni raised more than enough to save the program. Notre Dame pocketed the money and kept the money

i do not believe the current sanctions on russia/belarussian athletes has been in effect long enough for athletes to use it as a reason to switch countries... at least one calendar year needs to have past since competing for the current nation... i am sure there is more to that, but, i am ignorant of all of the check boxes that need marked off to switch countries... i do recall something about a couple of belarus athletes having got past the time requirements to switch nations, but, that was started before and unrelated to the current shenanigans...

Obviously it is Davidson barring injury. However, there is no minimum match requirement, so it could theoretically be Emerson.

http://johnnythompsonnum1.blogspot.com/2020/03/gone-lost-forgotten-their-best-notre.html

Latona

Yeah, not so much.

I thought using marginalized groups as your mascot was largely phased out over the past couple of decades.

Williamsport Little Leaguers makes more sense. Almost nothing makes less sense.

heard that's what ya gotta be to live in LA on astroturf.

Seriously? That's an insane mascot for high school OR for any level.

My sister in law is from this area. I like that part of the world but they have an odd mascot for the local high school: The Millionaires

Just so it’s clear. It’s not just SDSU guys that have.. mixed opinions on Bono. Similar issues have popped up everywhere he’s gone. Wisconsin as a state is in a pickle. They finally are relevant as a hs state but none of their kids are staying. The real problem is youth culture, Askren is succeeding so we’ll because he’s powerful enough to nip the normal youth toxicity and burnout out of his clubs wrestling and development. Especially the dads. He can just kick them out and move on. He also coaches like normal kids can become elite. Almost anyone who tries to beat Askrens results and provide an alternative for Wisconsin in less than 10 years will run into the same toxic dad coach issues undercutting wrestling and he’ll still be churning out studs. People get butthurt about what he says about youth wrestling.. but the way he’s doing things where youth doesn’t matter so much and they’re genuinely trying to create kids who actually want to wrestle for 30 years is working

Part of me wanted the same thing. I’m sure he would have been a great recruiter and gotten some serious talent in the room. But I can’t imagine he would have dealt well with the athletic department administrators etc I thought when he took over as club coach it would be the best of both worlds, he’d get top guys in the room, but not have to deal with head coaching duties outside of wrestling. Obviously, it wasn’t meant to be.

After Davis was gone, part of me really wanted to see Askren get the head job. It would have been high risk/high reward. Regardless, it would have been a ride worth watching as an alum and fan. However, if I was an AD, I would never hire him. I give them credit for hiring him to be the RTC coach. That didn't work out, and gives us a good indication on how a head coaching gig would have ended up.

@scourge165thanks for the info on Askren/UW. Were you ever on the team? I was an out of state walk-on back in the day, but never knew much of the inside story why Askren had such a beef with UW. I know he has steered WI guys away for a while, but didn’t realize the extent to which he is undermining the coaching staff’s ability to recruit the state. That’s a huge hurdle to have to overcome.

All the non-posting members don't show up to create dumb threads and argue about topics already thoroughly discussed.

Michigan found an extra year for Micic.

CMU has beaten Northern Illinois (among others) Northern Illinois has beaten Cal Baptist (among others) Cal Baptist has beaten Wyoming (among others) Wyoming has beaten Utah Valley Utah Valley has beaten Northern Colorado (among others) Northern Colorado has beaten Cal Poly (among others) Cal Poly has beaten ArIzona State (among others) Arizona State has beaten Missouri (among others) Missouri should probably drop their program

it goes both ways... we both could have taken a second, but, i am truly grateful you cowboyed up immediately and called me out... there are several lessons that can be learned from this and nothing gets learned if we just sweep shit under the rug and pretend it never happened...

seriously... it never even crossed my mind... i was truly horrified after realizing what you must have thought and can see how it could be taken the wrong way... even the possibility makes me feel awful... Thank you for allowing me to clear that up.