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4 hours ago, ionel said:

You forgot the 2 pts x falls thats 10 more x 2 wrestler = 20. 

That's the 10 bonus points. 1st placement + advancement = 20 points. 1st with 5 pins = 20 + 10 (5x2 for bonus) that's 30 per wrestler. 60 total. In your previous post you accidentally multiplied the bonus twice to get to 40 total points instead of 20, and then 2 extra advancement points. Not trying to be the math guy here, I miscounted my own dual score prediction a little while back. 😅

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8 minutes ago, fishbane said:

You wrote post season not NCAA championship  "A wrestler may compete in 5 post seasons if one of those were the 2021 championships unless they competed in the 2020 championships."  The conference tournament is part of the post season.  

it doesn't matter! wrestlers who weren't good enough to make the postseason but still used their eligibility in 2020 are treated differently than wrestlers who used a year of eligibility in 2021. 

Posted
48 minutes ago, BruceyB said:

That's the 10 bonus points. 1st placement + advancement = 20 points. 1st with 5 pins = 20 + 10 (5x2 for bonus) that's 30 per wrestler. 60 total. In your previous post you accidentally multiplied the bonus twice to get to 40 total points instead of 20, and then 2 extra advancement points. Not trying to be the math guy here, I miscounted my own dual score prediction a little while back. 😅

We are do the @Wrestleknownothing mathy and you keep forgetting the falls plus there's 5 advancement points from the pigtail so its 82 pts max for the two wrestlers.  Wkn is scoring pinfalls here.  Now I don't believe in em am sure there's no pinfellery in the NCAA rule book.  But I was replying to Wkn's post so just doing the math the way he call for it.  🙂

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Posted
5 hours ago, Coastal said:

Your math is incorrect.  The max points from the #1 seed is 16 for placement, 10 points for a pin in each of the five matches and 4 points for advancement in each round.    If one was the 32nd or 33rd seed, they could score an extra 3 points, one for advancement and one for a pin.

1+1=3?

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Posted
10 hours ago, Coastal said:

Your math is incorrect.  The max points from the #1 seed is 16 for placement, 10 points for a pin in each of the five matches and 4 points for advancement in each round.    If one was the 32nd or 33rd seed, they could score an extra 3 points, one for advancement and one for a pin.

You are still missing the 2 pts for falls and yes I prob underestimated the total but just trying to show Wkn it was more than 79 if going with mythical pinfalls.  

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Posted
2 hours ago, Coastal said:

We are not missing the 2 pts for falls.   Everyone except the pigtail wrestles five matches to take 1st.  At 2 pts per fall per match, the most bonus a wrestler can have is 10 bonus points if they take 1st.     Again 16 pts for placing 1st, 10 points for pinning all five opponents and 4 pts for advancent.    There is no way an individual can score 40 pts in a single NCAA championship.

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Posted

Why doesn't anyone seem to blame the wrestler for not knowing.  I would think any wrestler who is staying around for his 6th year might inquire or figure it out before hand.  Just blaming the compliance person is a little unfair.  The wrestler and coach clearly are more in tune with the individual facts and details about the wrestling team.   

I just went to the Little Rock wrestling roster website and even that page has him as a Redshirt Junior in 2022-2023.  Therefore, 2023-2024 was redshirt senior (5th year) and 2024-2025 is his 6th year.  Obviously one year too many.  

Its not hard.  You get 5 years eligibility to compete in 4 seasons (assumes 1 redshirt if you take it), unless you competed in 2021, which was eligibility free (i.e. Starocci).  

Regarding the NCAA alternate getting the spot over the PAC runner-up.  It is presumed the PAC runner-up was already considered when NCAA picked the wild cards and alternate.  So it should go to the alternate.  

Bad look on the athlete, coaches, and others that can't count properly.  This is there job.  

Posted
I could be mistaken but I believe there is no advancement point for winning in the finals. I believe 30 is the maximum amount an individual can score at NCAAs
You also included both wrestlers bonus before multiplying.
16 place + 4 adv + 10 bonus = 30 x 2 = 60 points.
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You are correct about no advancement point for winning the final bout. However, if a wrestler is in a pigtail and becomes the champion, they would have earned five advancement points plus any bonus. A single person’s best total would be:

16 place + 5 adv + 12 bonus = 33 points.


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Posted
On 3/13/2025 at 9:00 PM, Boring said:

Isn't he a 133 pounder? Wouldn't that be like insulting a marmoset?

I have a coach who used to make a joke about this. 

He'd say, "nobody gives a -____ about a State Champ at 103 or 106....they still have to fear for their life when they walk into a bar."

Hard to argue! And they're ALWAYS the guys starting the fights! 

 

(This doesn't include the likes of Tommy Rowlands who started off at 103 and then Wrestled HWT...).

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Posted
On 3/15/2025 at 4:00 PM, BarSeries said:

 

Humphrey's deserves it...

I lost a pool on him "losing" to Austin O'Connor. I had Haines winning it, Humphrey taking 2nd and O'Connor taking 3rd. 

I think it was the semi's, but Humphrey's was down 5-4...IIRC, but that could have been two years earlier as they were in the exact same scenario twice. Either way, down 1, needs the escape. He kicks out at about 2 seconds, he's on the mat rolling, 5 feet between him and O'Connor, starts to come up to his feet, clock hits zero as the ref calls time and...they said no loss of control. 

 

This one still bugs me;

 

Posted (edited)

Humphreys tied it until riding time was awarded.   at about tens seconds left the riding 'time  locked' comes up then disappears.  the 2 second escape makes it 3-3  then riding time. Maybe then they decided not to award the escape? because real clock time I didnt care to keep watching.

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Posted
3 hours ago, BarSeries said:

I heard Trump was going to pardon Brennan 

Thought Biden already did, hence why he started the season. 

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Posted
3 hours ago, scourge165 said:

Humphrey's deserves it...

I lost a pool on him "losing" to Austin O'Connor. I had Haines winning it, Humphrey taking 2nd and O'Connor taking 3rd. 

I think it was the semi's, but Humphrey's was down 5-4...IIRC, but that could have been two years earlier as they were in the exact same scenario twice. Either way, down 1, needs the escape. He kicks out at about 2 seconds, he's on the mat rolling, 5 feet between him and O'Connor, starts to come up to his feet, clock hits zero as the ref calls time and...they said no loss of control. 

 

This one still bugs me;

 

Can't be this one.  They awarded the 1, and AOC had riding time anyway.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Gene Mills Fan said:

Humphreys tied it until riding time was awarded.   at about tens seconds left the riding 'time  locked' comes up then disappears.  the 2 second escape makes it 3-3  then riding time. Maybe then they decided not to award the escape? because real clock time I didnt care to keep watching.

I thought they called a stalling point to make it 3-3 and then looked to see if there was also an escape. Not sure what Scott was yelling about. Otherwise, if it was a warning and an escape it still didn't change who was winning.

Posted
18 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

Can't be this one.  They awarded the 1, and AOC had riding time anyway.

I can't edit this, @scourge165, but I misremembered how this played out, and now remember. I understand the complaint.  Not sure why AOC let go, nearly a catastrophic mistake for him. 

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