Brennan

[okokzach]

Should/will UALR be punished?

[ionel]

13 minutes ago, okokzach said:

Should/will UALR be punished?

Only if they also punishment all the other teams breaking rules. What did LR gain? 

[Fletcher]

3 hours ago, dragit said:

My guess is they get it.  Either f@n haters or don't like the rule. 

This is a wrestling message board. Never underestimate the dumbness of wrestlers.

[Dark Energy]

How this is even a debate just baffles me.

[Wrestleknownothing]

9 minutes ago, ionel said:

Only if they also punishment all the other teams breaking rules. What did LR gain? 

Why is it a necessary condition that they gain something to be punished? They denied their conference an allocation.  they denied a wrestler a bid. They denied other teams wins in dual meets. There is probably more.

[dragit]

6 hours ago, BarSeries said:

Little Rock would be in a better posture of they elaborated on what the two purported certifications were.  They haven't to my knowledge produced anything that demonstrates that someone in authority, other than at Little Rock, who was provided information that included somewhere the fact that his four postseasons didn't  include 2021, officially said he was properly eligible.  Absent that what they've said doesn't seem to mean a lot with respect to whether and how much Little Rock as a school was culpable.

[PortaJohn]

On 3/14/2025 at 1:06 PM, cowcards said:

Just wait until the NCAA goes to 5 years and eliminates redshirting...

I thought the proposed new rule will be 5 regular seasons but only 4 post seasons?  I personally support this

[Boring]

Sympathy to Brennan. He believed he could still wrestle because he was lied to by somebody. Still, there are guys who have been in college for 7 years, including the Braunagel twins, that are wrestling at NCAAs. Smacks of favoritism. 

Edited March 20, 2025 by Boring

[Caveira]

2 minutes ago, Boring said:

Sympathy to Brennan. He believed he could still wrestle because he was lied to by somebody. Still, there are guys who have been in college for 7 years, including the Braunagel twins, that are wrestling at NCAAs. Smacks of favoritism. 

Do we know if the staff at LR are incompetent and just didn’t know?   Do we know if they are raging cheaters in a dark back room scheming to cheat?   Do we know if Brennan was or wasn’t in on cheating?   I don’t think we know anything factual other than he is out of eligibility.  
 

Do we know factually.  I honestly dunno. 

[scourge165]

17 hours ago, VakAttack said:

I can't edit this, @scourge165, but I misremembered how this played out, and now remember. I understand the complaint.  Not sure why AOC let go, nearly a catastrophic mistake for him. 

Yeah...he had a match the year before vs O'Connor with a VERY similar ending(he doesn't get out, but he's up by a point and gives up the TD in the last ~15 seconds.

 

17 hours ago, gimpeltf said:

I thought they called a stalling point to make it 3-3 and then looked to see if there was also an escape. Not sure what Scott was yelling about. Otherwise, if it was a warning and an escape it still didn't change who was winning.

I think he was yelling because Humphrey's clearly gets away and the ref had just given him a stalling to make it a 1 point match.

So they review it and he likely thinks they'll give up the 1 point and...they don't and O'Connor is saved(though in fairness, I think he wins in OT). 

[DocBB]

LittleRock excuses to the NCAA that did not make the Final Cut in their appeal..

“Additionally, 2020 was a leap year so should not count”

[JimmyCinnabon]

12 hours ago, dragit said:

Little Rock would be in a better posture of they elaborated on what the two purported certifications were.  They haven't to my knowledge produced anything that demonstrates that someone in authority, other than at Little Rock, who was provided information that included somewhere the fact that his four postseasons didn't  include 2021, officially said he was properly eligible.  Absent that what they've said doesn't seem to mean a lot with respect to whether and how much Little Rock as a school was culpable.

Conferences cannot declare someone eligible like this. The NCAA has to do that. The argument that the PAC12 certified him as eligible is a non-argument. It’s meaningless. 

[Idaho]

Oregon State declared Pac-12 champs. LR lost Brennan's points at the Pac12 giving the Beavers the team title, however they did not give Murphy Menke the Pac12 champion NCAA birth. 

[Idaho]

5 hours ago, JimmyCinnabon said:

Conferences cannot declare someone eligible like this. The NCAA has to do that. The argument that the PAC12 certified him as eligible is a non-argument. It’s meaningless. 

Correct... Brennan had surgery in 2021, therefore not competing that year that was free. At the beginning of this fiasco. LR fans were claiming he had a medical redshirt for 2021 giving him the extra year. However, the NCAA didn't give any due to 2021 being a free year. Med years have to be granted and signed off by the NCAA. Why LR thought they had a med year with no sign off from the NCAA is a mystery. Why they would go to the conference twice and the conference saying he was good, twice is yet another mystery. Somebody needs to do a nice Scooby Doo pull off the mask meme.