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As mentioned above. matsavant.com. For the basic task of looking up and seeing an individuals results, I actually think it's better than wrestlestat. When you begin typing a name in the search bar it automatically pulls up suggested wrestlers. At least for me on wrestlestat, more than half the time I would search a wrestler's name in their search bar, it would say no wrestler found. I would have to google "Wrester X wrestlestat" to pull it up and then login each time. It was a very inconvenient issue, but I wasn't about to complain when they were providing the service for free. Matsavant has a cleaner and more friendly UI.. and it's free, at least for now.

This is a ridiculous statement. There is a reason that 5 if not 6 of those guys will be backups this year. My god, the first guy you named is coming off of a freshman campaign where he placed 2nd. What are you even talking about?

Is this a post questioning the ability of DT and co.'s coaching ability? You mention Merrill who made the finals as a freshmen last year.. And for Oklahoma State holdovers.. Doucet went from DNP to 4th, and Spratley went from DNP to 2nd and 5th at a very volatile weight.

I literally just did that, and you told me what I meant anyway. You incorrectly inferred my sentiment. Maybe it was my wording, maybe you jumped to a conclusion that was actually said. I don't know. My only point was that it's not the Cold War, and the for us or against us dichotomy is antiquated. It doesn't make anyone less American if they choose to root for someone from another country in a sporting event. Rooting for someone simply because they are American is literally by definition a base reason. Not a bad reason. I was simply suggesting that there are plenty of valid reasons for someone to root for RBY without being traitorous. I never said nor suggested that it was bad or lesser to root for Americans. My original post was in response to a suggestion that someone's loyalty should be to their country rather than a school. Maybe that helps you understand my point, maybe not. Either way, take is easy, brother.

Facundo winning a match where he scored 2 takedowns is good. If he won this match 2-1 I would be much more concerned with the result.

Base does not mean bad or lesser. It is the basis for something. The default. "A base reason (or a foundational/basic reason) means the primary, underlying, or most fundamental cause behind something. It is the core starting point or root factor upon which an argument, decision, or event is built." Sheesh.

You're right. Never thought of it that way..

Not sure if bracket links work on the new flo or not. Let me know. https://www.flowrestling.org/nextgen/events/16266738/brackets?bracket=32DqJUhSoEbK6VK2ws

Finals match-ups and other results.. Zinkin in the finals Jax vs TK Davis Raney vs Jamison Vega vs Raney Robideau vs Burton Swiderski and Routledge 1-1 heading into OT. Swiderski with TD Lockett vs Swiderski in the finals 174-285 still going..

So a big hole at 141 right now. 149: Shaw in the driver's seat right now?

What weight was Antonio Mills at here? Bouzakis finishes 6th.. at the Clarion? Ouch.

Biggest takeaways so far? Any surprises?

Wondering if any of our lovely Oklahoman Brethren are attending the event today and willing to post any interesting things they see that can't be captured by the score in the bracket. I see that Cael Hughes lost to the 11 seed from Gardner-Webb. There were two other GW wrestlers seeded higher in the bracket, so does that mean Hughes lost to Gardner-Webb's third string wrestler? Nothing else of note yet. Semis should be underway in the next 30 minutes or so. Highlights of the semis: 141: Jamison vs Ramirez 165: Swiderski vs Routledge

Maybe your comprehension was brutal. The part that you clipped and sent to BigRed was not me at all saying that you shouldn't root for Americans because you are both Americans. It was stating the fact that to root for someone solely based on where they happened to be born is a base reason. There are plenty of factors that would be more nuanced reasons to root for/against someone than what country they rep.

It warmed my heart.

Spencer with a takedown and continuous lace over RBY. Tech in 20 seconds.

Wow.

Did you mean to quote me?

The quoted statement is very flawed in itself. But we will ignore that. The idea that Spencer Lee is representing YOU as an American was a 20th Century Propaganda campaign. Reading some of these comments I would think we're in the midst of fighting the red scare. The fact that you and a USA rep both happened to be born on the same land mass is about the most base level reason to possibly root for someone. Acting like anyone's loyalty to America should be questioned over who they root for in a wrestling tournament is ridiculous. It's a wrestling match. There are no negative consequences bestowed upon the losing athlete's country. If Spencer loses, America will be exactly the same tomorrow as it is today. No one is betraying their country or being anti-American if they root for RBY to win a wrestling match.

Lol, I'm not playing with you Cav. Find someone else to play with you and your Strawmen.

Love it. Thank you.

I would 100% root for Spencer Lee under a French flag over Luke Lilledahl wearing the USA flag. They are both American's wearing different singlets. I'm blown away that any of you would change who you are rooting for based on what singlet they wear. I could care less about what country a wrestler is from. I root for Americans because I know more about them having followed their careers, and I feel more loyalty towards an athlete I have watched for a long time than someone from overseas that I know nothing about. If Ono was wrestling Blaze in the finals for the Olympics, call me whatever you want, I'm rooting for Ono. I love that kid. I don't care that he was born in Japan and Marcus Blaze was born in Ohio. I am a bigger fan of Masanosuke Ono than I am of Marcus Blaze. Why should I care if someone was born in the same country as me? That's just chance. I don't root for a flag, I root for Athletes.

I don't understand why PSU fans have to argue against reality. PSU has reduced their schedule over the years and in doing so chose to stop scheduling the rigorous events outside of their mandatory B10 schedule. With the events they choose to schedule now, they clearly do not want to schedule or attend the same events as the top programs. They are very clearly reducing the rigor in their schedule to optimize their seeding potential. Clearly the coaching staff at PSU sees how valuable high seeds are at NCAAs. Instead of simply saying "The system is working, why would we change it?" PSU fans argue that seeds don't matter, or that PSU wrestles a rigorous schedule because they are in the B10. PSU's schedule is hard enough with their B10 duals and the B10 Championships so that they will have opportunity to earn a #1 seed at NCAAs and that is all of the rigor they want in their schedule. It sucks as a fan because I would like to see their guys wrestle more high level matches, but it makes sense when the goal is to win NCAAs. Yes, PSU likely wins regardless of where they are seeded in the tournament, but a wrestlers margin for error goes up significantly when they are a top 3 seed, and a #1 seed has substantially higher odds of making the finals than a 2 or 3. I would be very interested to see the percentages of a #1 making the finals versus a #2.

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