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10 year crossing 5%, 30 year over 5.4%, Oil approaching 110, a much broader conflict breaking out, the one source, the SA pipeline that was providing some relief while the Strait was shut down because Trump canceled a deal with Iran that they were adhering to(per his own administration) and NOW lying and claiming they have a deal... that's substantively worse than the original deal... that's winning? What's more, you have people who were hired by ICE who were ACTUAL members of MS-13, 5 others who had active warrants. So Felons arresting people guilty of Misdemeanors. This is what you voted for. MS-13 working for Ice because we're so incompetent.

No, it wasn't. A very small part of my post was name calling. That still doesn't lend more credence to the 'nuh-uh, you are' line of arguments. Pretty was shot after he'd been disarmed and not resisting and at absolutely no time did he attack them. To state otherwise is a lie as it's all on video.

And just wrong on top of ignorant; He's conflating Iranian athletes refusing to compete against Israeli athletes, often because Iran prohibits its national-team athletes from doing so, with American Muslims refusing to support Jewish Americans. Those aren't the same thing. Jon Ossoff is Jewish, and after the 2021 Georgia Senate runoff, a CAIR exit poll of Muslim voters found 91% reported voting for the Ossoff/Warnock ticket. So yes, apparently Muslims can vote for a Jewish candidate. We don't have to speculate about it—they already did, overwhelmingly, in an actual U.S. Senate election. But again, expecting Nuance from... some people is like asking asking Lindsay Clancy to babysit. It's possible it works out, but... most likely it just ends up in a fckn disaster. And actually, let me reframe that. At least Clancy was fine about 99.99% of the time(insofar as Fine=kids alive). Not a ringing endorsement, but given the standards we're up again, remarkably high.

So... this is the equivalent of "nuh-uh, you are?" Clever.

Yeah, this is pretty much all bullshit. 1-Never supported anyone who wanted to "defund Law Enforcement." I have about 10 family members who are in Law Enforcement. Nice Strawman, but... well, I don't expect much more from you. 2-"Hate Ice?" I have a pretty strong opinion about them shooting a guy for absolutely no discernible reason other than you took a bunch of thugs and criminals and... well, you can see what they do. It was particularly noteworthy how they knew how wrong they were IMMEDIATELY that they tried to claim he went there with the intent of "inflicting maximum carnage on ICE agents." This despite he never... even touched his gun. You are showing your ass now though. Legally carrying is apparently a justification for shooting a guy when 6 people are holding him on the ground AND after you take the gun from his holster(after he made absolutely zero aggressive actions). I did watch the video, I posted the video... you calling it a "clean shoot," is just you licking more leather.

This is just evidence you're little more than a bot. I didn't mention Trump you moron. I mentioned ICE and your bullshit about him attacking ICE. He was standing back, filming on his phone... as is his right, ICE approaches him, shoves him, he backs up, they push him again, still no attack, they then pepper spray him and commence beating the shit out of him. Also, I don't know what TF "your adherence to all Leo is bad," means. The 'TDS' line is all the more comical as you and ONLY you brought up Trump here, I just called you a boot licker... which you continue to prove. https://x.com/its_The_Dr/status/2022153430601760797/video/1

And another boot licker; https://x.com/its_The_Dr/status/2022153430601760797/video/1

Yes... with his arms up and being pushed backward! What a violent attack...

... you're adherence to the cult is just amazing. Again, I hope you at least check to make sure they didn't step in shit while you're liking those boots. At no time did he "attack" ICE. That's just... absolutely ridiculous and a lie. But I get it, when you've got shoe polish all over your tongue, what more do I expect? That wasn't even the claim ICE made... that he "attacked" them. He was standing there with his phone out taping, THEY made contact with HIM he backs up... and then when they have him on the ground that real brain trust show him while he lay prone after taking the gun out. They murdered the guy, but you're dumb enough to either genuinely believe the nonsense you're blindly repeating, or you know you're lying, but you're committed to the lie. https://x.com/BBCRosAtkins/status/2016856967621247120/video/1

Alex Pretti? Jesus... how much shit and piss is on the boots you lick when you can't even point to THAT shooting? If you can claim THAT was justified... you'll defend anything. They should also just strip the 2nd Amendment now given that was the justification(despite at NO point did he ever go for a gun or make any aggressive move, but he had it).

I don't actually recall, but I do know the Dems I've wanted to see run. He fits the mold. I'm a big fan of Kelly. I was amazed we went with Walz over Kelly. Not because Walz had some problems, just because you knew the GOP playbook. Mock their manhood or whatever. Hard to do that with a pilot and an astronaut. I like Ossoff and Beshear as well. I've also really changed my view on Israel. I was just a pretty hard line zionist and thought Israel was justified... and then they kept going and going and... it's become a very nuanced discussion that's people refuse to have and is a political landmine(that lack of nuance shows up with the "Muslims won't Wrestle Jews right out of the gate). I'd REALLY love to see the US out of this WAR and yields get out of that 4.75/5.4 range and 25 year highs and Oil back down as it's stomping out the economic growth right now.

I asked ChatGTP because... well, that's the point of the thread; You have to give it some parameters. It's only as useful as your instructions(and even then... it's limited in it's usefulness). But; Wrestler Year Place Match points Team pts Status Jason Tsirtsis 2014 1st 15 21 QUALIFIES +6 Mark Ellis 2009 1st 19 21 QUALIFIES +2 Zach Rey 2011 1st low enough to qualify > match pts QUALIFIES Darian Cruz 2017 1st 21 21 TIE — does not qualify Don Whipp 1993 2nd at least 19 before/including final below that No Greg Haladay 1990 2nd about 18 below that No Brett Bourne 1990 5th comfortably > team pts — No

Well, I think looking at the past to see how many 5X Champs there COULD be moving forward may be a bit flawed. Bassett probably had a good chance, but he'll miss out on his 5th year by a week or so. Duke was SO close last year, Jax I think has a chance. And these guys are just so much better come in as Freshmen. The floodgates won't open and you won't see 4-5 in the first 8 years, but these kids are so good now.

It takes forever and when I'm posting, I constantly get kicked off with some, "Header too large" default page. I know you... of all people have probably mourned my lack of posting.

You don't need a cookie cutter bad guy vs good guy, Rocky type movie. It can just be about... Gable. It can also be about the obstacles he's overcome or the tragedies, the death of his Sister, his incredible career, heartbreaking loss, the pressure on him to win the '72 Olympics as the overwhelming favorite... and just a movie. I'm not looking for an Avengers style caricature of him. I also don't know how many people under 50 know about him... I don't know how many knew about Robles. I don't think ignorance is a good reason to NOT make a movie, but I would still stand by the argument he's the most prominent name in American Wrestling History.

Cool. I missed the whole "reaction" updates, but golden shit is good, right? Anyway... Gable's still the guy people associate with the spot. I'm not sure how much everyone knows who he is, but 15-20 years ago, everyone seemed to know who Dan Gable was just as they'd known who... Cheryl Miller was or Phelps as a swimmer.

I got class of 2026. You could certainly say Dean over McEnelly...

I don't believe it is... but I'll go off of the average age, throw it into AI because... that's the extent to which I'm willing to work here. There are outliers... like the Auburn Basketball team that was 2 years older than average CBB roster... or specialists in CFB. And Hockey has also had an issue, but I would stand by the statement it's a BIGGER problem in Wrestling than CBB or CFB. Again, don't remember the biggest names in CFB being 25-26. Don't recall that because I believe someone of a simlar ability in Football or Basketball to Daton Fix or Carter Starocci, Aaron Brooks, Kemerer, Stevenson, Kerkvliet, Spencer Lee, AJ Ferrari, Dean, SVN, Austin Gomez...etc...etc... The final line seems to... support my theory. https://www.rotowire.com/cbasketball/article/acc-basketball-rosters-average-age-96424

Yeah, I was going to say 'I'm not sure if those classes were really that great or if it was just more publicized that you had those guys on the same Bishop McCort team and Bassett got so much publicity,' but... you're right, those three years were just insane. And we haven't even seen the class of '26 with Ross, Merrill who just beat Ross, Jayden James and one of the highest profile recruits in a long time in Bassett.

No, I said this isn't a BIG problem in Basketball and Football. They don't have their top athletes taking Olympic Redshirt years, their top athletes try and reclassify and start college YOUNGER so they can start their pro-careers quicker. Do YOU think this will impact CBB and CFB like it will Wrestling? You think... Caleb Williams would have spent 6 years in College like Starocci(I'm trying to take two elite examples). No, this FAR more of an issue in Niche sports. Maybe track and fieldd or...I don't know what else.

Ok... I'm skeptical this will survive the courts. You can easily look at Bassett(who is not the only one, but he's the best and so people will continue to cite him, but pointing out, I'm not piling on)... or RBY who openly admitted it. You're going to have other guys who were held back for a myriad of reasons. I don't think it should be whichever is sooner. I think it should be either or. 5 years after HS or from the age of 19. I had a roommate and good friend who... had to be held back a year for reasons totally unrelated to the sport(he hadn't even started competing in anything yet, but it was unfortunate circumstances). I feel like he'd have had a strong case. Or if you just have kid and they say he's not academically ready to move on in K or 1st grade... or 8th grade. That's not really for the NCAA to legislate. And then it'll come down to 'does the NCAA really care enough to fight this?' This isn't a big problem in Football or Basketball, it's more... well, pretty much just Wrestling as far as I know, but say it's other sports. Just 5 in 5 from 19 or graduation, whichever is later, AS LONG as you were eligible to compete your Sr year of HS. That'd make far more sense.

Ok, and again, Facundo beat Haines and I'm pretty sure Messenbrink in the "off-season." Folkstyle vs Freestyle=Big difference. But now we're saying he's going to be taking the spot of... maybe the most dominant Wrestler in the last decade(at least up there with Lee, Stevenson... we'll see how he finishes up)? Facundo then cut down to '57, lost in the Wrestle-off and... sat. Sealey may win. I'd still probably pick Duke and Messenbrink(at least). I wouldn't be putting money against Kasak or James either.

I don't know. I'm also not saying he IS 4th string... just that he COULD be. I'm taking it to the extreme. He's proven he can Wrestle with anyone, but I don't think anyone would find it hard to believe that Duke or Kasak can beat him... and James is a top 3 Wrestler in this class(just see his result with Melvin Miller and then look at how competitive Miller was with Duke). So I'm not placing him 4th. Just more highlighting the talent they have at '57 right now. And why does he stay? Maybe... because he's got a chance to make the world team at 163. Maybe he thinks that's the best place for him to develop? Maybe he thinks he can be a world champ AND he's got a big NIL deal because he was so highly touted. I really don't know. You have a small window to compete in College. I would transfer if I were him, but I can't speak to why he's not doing so. I don't know anything about the program other than guys stay there when they could likely AA elsewhere. The roster limit is going to have to have an impact.... I'd think. Why isn't Desmond leaving if this 5-5 comes to fruition? I suppose he could slide in at '41 in another year. Look at their '27 class; #2 Landon Sidun (125/133)- He was going to slide perfectly in after Lillendahl. A RS year, then a Sidun would step in. Now if Lillendahl gets 5 years, that RS is going to cost Sidun a year as well as Lillendahl's own 5th year(assuming he wins). #6 Grey Burnett (133)- #8 Clinton Shepherd (157/165) #10 Gavin Mangano (149) #94 James Whitbred (165) #100 William Soto (125) And then you have ANOTHER '57/'65 who is a top 10 P4P recruit. Does this change things? I actually think this would lead to MORE transferring. Just take this Sidun. I don't know anything about him but what I can read on his resume, but #2 P4P, he's dominate in PA... sounds like a kid who'll be ready to go right out of the gate. Would it make more sense for him to go to... Va Tech and then transfer in 2 years to PSU? That kinda goes against what PSU does which is take HS recruits... for the most part, some exceptions would be Welsh or Messenbrink, but even the, they're young and have 3-4 years left. Dean is the only guy I can think of who came in with 1 year(which became 2 with Covid). But will they now adjust? And no school is going to turn down a National Finalist with 3 years who wants to come(I can't and won't speak to how much recruiting is done behind the scenes or how much "tampering" there is). Edit *Drew Hildebrandt also transferred in after Wrestling elsewhere(god knows if I miss this, I'm going to get a snide comment from a particular Iowa fan who likes to make the strawman argument that "Penn State doesn't take transfers.") Okie State is going to be in the same position. Iowa, Ohio State to lesser degrees. But this is going to create a "problem" for the Cowboys and PSU in the immediate future.

Hell, he could be 4th string with Jayden James. Sealey was a top 3 P4P recruit, but I also remember Facundo beating... I THOUGHT it was Mesenbrink and Haines the same off-season and then... he sat, transfered to Okie State(so it would have been two years ago at the open).

No. I absolutely do not think that's the case. I don't think Oklahoma State's recruiting success spells the end for Penn State... even in the slightest. Just as it stands, Penn State has SO much young talent. Penn State isn't going to just go away. David Taylor HAS recruited an amazing roster, but... are we forgetting that Penn State has the 2 best True Freshmen this year(recruiting wise) until Jax Forrest decided to graduate early? That Penn State has a really good class the year before? That they had Jayden James coming in? Lindun. They have a couple top 10 prospects next year and they're "only" losing... who? Mesenbrink, Van Ness and Ono if he Wrestles. I think this is just good for the sport. I'd also add that Va Tech is bringing in new young talent and they are going to have a stacked bottom half of the lineup next year and could have... 2 NCs(Bassett and Henson at '41 and '49) and then they've got Melvin Miller, Sasso, Seidel(how the hell did I forget about Seidel). That's some blue-blue chip recruits. What's more, I think 5 for 5 will split the talent up a little more and then probably the good teams picking up transfers. I would definitely NOT bet against Penn State being an ELITE program the next 5 years... even if they are beaten by Okie State in '28, '29. It's just going to be more fun and I think it may even mean more to Cael(I like Cael, but I call BS on the "it's just a game, it doesn't really matter, we're just having fun." Not buying that. He's competitive as hell and so is Taylor. You can't be that good at anything and have that mentality.