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I didn't crunch the numbers on this but it seems to me that ducking accelerated once NCAAs started to seed out to all 33. I would propose we go back to seeding the top 8 since having no seeds whatsoever doesn't actually incentivize wrestling. Perhaps seeding should be based on a team's record at each weightclass rather than on an individual wrestler'S record at that weightclass. Ie, if a team ducks at 133, whatever happens at that weight (a loss, for instance) goes on the record for the weight and is taken into account for seeding purposes. I really like this idea. Call it, the peanut butter rule. Make losses (and wins) really stick.

In no particular order: Matt Ramos Richie Figueroa Caleb Smith Jakob Camacho Nico Provo Michael DeAugustino Eric Barnett Brett Ungar Jore Volk Drake Ayala Pat McKee Brayden Palmer Dean Peterson Jack Maida Anthony Noto Noah Surtin Brandon Kaylor Cooper Flynn Following guys can also beat anyone: Troy Spratley Tanner Jordan Brendan McCrone Max Gallagher Colton Camacho Jett Strickenberger Stevo Poulin Spencer Moore Kysen Terukina Not a huge separation between these lists. Likely to be first round upsets abound. 125 will be among the most exciting

I know I'll probably regret asking this, but: Has anyone ever seen JimmyBT and NJDan at the same time?

This. Or similar the next election. This is not the direction we want our country to go in. Granted, CO is a D state and most likely would not vote for Trump in the general election, so it might be a moot point. But this is not the way we should be running elections. That is what the primaries are for, to weed out the weak and allow the top guy or gal to be the nominee of the party. Ohio Elite has it correct. None of us want to know what will happen if this CO decision stands. It will not be pretty. mspart

9,100 points is needed to become an NCAA champion. You are at 8,384 points right now. Keep working hard, Rome wasn't built in a day.

You know what was badass? Someone was having difficulty with their stream today for Journeymen. They tagged Journeymen. Journeymen responded, fixed it, and put on a badass product. It is impossible to do that with Flo. I am an asshole about it, but many others are not. They are polite and constructive and all Spey can do is be a snarky piece of shit about it regardless of who it is.

Looks like someone finally cleaned their room and got their computer privileges' back...

Not enough evidence to charge or convict. Only enough for them to form an opinion which is not law.

In context it sounds like a terrible law. Which can easily be misused. Which was written 150 years ago for a specific reason to achieve a certain outcome. Shouldn't this law have stricter requirements in order have less confusion when trying to interpret it?

As a Lehigh fan- yeah- they are young!

So, where’s the conviction?

You want predictions? Come to me. Buy high sell low is my mantra!! mspart

This means the people understand that the courts will abide by the law, not make up things to go with what they want to happen. They made up that Trump was part of an insurrection. There is no court case that makes that allegation. So they made up their minds on their own. That does not comport to democracy and this is a terrible precedent for judicial review. I do not want Trump to be President. But this is a railroading of a candidate that has never happened before in the history of our nation. Bad precedent to set. mspart

Re read the 14th: the VP, congress etc need to be convicted but its very specific when it talks about the "President", he/she only needs to be accused, implied, speculated, etc of maybe doing some thing wrong.

We're aware...

Speaking of optics and Confederate traitors to the United States of America

Team success at a weight class for seeding purposes is a brilliant idea. A+

The Dems could care less about our democracy. All they want is a victory in 2024 by ANY MEANS POSSIBLE!!!!! Very sad but true. TDS is very real!!!!

And a better Mohawk!

Wrestling seasons are tough and long… better to have everyone healthy for end imo. But I agree I want to see the best compete!

Definitely more views.

I’m taking Stevo Poulin on account of him having more YouTube videos than any of these other slouches

Starting with the Greg Warren Award and moving forward, making Varsity is a requirement for the cross-member rank award.

Rumor out of Lehigh camp is he can't hold 125 for a full year, so making it most likely he redshirts since Lehigh has Crookham and McGonagle at 133 (although McGonagle and Hines wrestling 141 tomorrow at Sheridan)

If this was UWW, we would be told that 125 was the best and deepest weight class because so many guys are capable of winning titles/placing. (ala 65 kg)

I am saying that those two hand picked pictures are not an indication of PED use, because I know the circumstances of each photo and the time period between them.

Just in case you guys are being serious: 190 lbs at 6’0” is not indicative of PED use. The average shortstop in MLB in 2023 was 6’0.5” 190.2 lbs Also, using a photo of a teenage Taylor starving himself to weigh 157 lbs is just plain foolish.

I won’t pretend to know the level of training of the average LEO. Let’s get that out of the way right now. Friend of mine is a State Trooper. Been on the force for more than a decade. He gets to the range once, maybe twice a year. Last time I saw him he told me he’d put more rounds into dying deer, elk and bears along the roadside than paper targets that year. In the military, your training (in an infantry unit) is exhaustive. It identifies those ill suited and removed them. Those that can be reformed and remediated are trained up to standard. You carry a loaded weapon, all the time, at the low ready, and shoot regularly. Radio use and etiquette. You work on battle drills, movement, actions-on-contact scenarios, etc. You know who combatants are, when you must render aid. I would imagine this is very different than the average patrolman. So, is Parkland LEO prepared to enter a complex, unknown scenario? Likely not. I get any reservations he or she might have. However, you never, ever have perfect knowledge of a situation. Your job, regardless of what the courts say it is, is to save little kids from being shot to death. That said, holy shit, man. Uvalde cops? Should be fired to the last man. I don’t believe in capital punishment. But in cases of pure cowardice, by armed men, I might be fine with them bringing back the old Roman tradition of decimation. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Pretty much the same.. except now it hurts if I look the wrong way too fast

To save democracy you must destroy democracy?

I dont know. @jross& @BobDole are two evil right wingers suppressing my quest for excellence. @Ban Basketball can surely relate

Holy smokes! Is it really you? After MSU never showed up I thought you died of a broken heart

All times Eastern, with local times in parenthesis. *-indicates event is believed to be eligible for a one-pound weight allowance Monday, December 18: Cornell vs. Little Rock at Nashville, TN, 3:00 PM (2:00 PM) Iowa State vs. Pittsburgh at Nashville, TN, 3:00 PM (2:00 PM) Cornell vs. Pittsburgh at Nashville, TN, 5:00 PM (4:00 PM) Iowa State vs. Little Rock at Nashville, TN, 5:00 PM (4:00 PM) Cornell vs. Iowa State at Nashville, TN, 7:00 PM (6:00 PM) Little Rock vs. Pittsburgh at Nashville, TN, 7:00 PM (6:00 PM) Tuesday, December 19: Kent State at Northern Illinois, 12:00 PM (11:00 AM) Duke vs. The Citadel at Queens, 12:00 PM North Dakota State at Campbell, 1:00 PM Purdue vs. Stanford at Campbell, 1:00 PM The Citadel at Queens, 1:30 PM Kent State vs. Harper at Northern Illinois, 2:00 PM (1:00 PM) Northwestern at Northern Illinois, 2:00 PM (1:00 PM) Stanford at Campbell, 3:00 PM North Dakota State vs. Purdue at Campbell, 3:00 PM Lock Haven vs. NC State at Nashville, TN, 3:00 PM (2:00 PM) Northern Iowa vs. Ohio State at Nashville, TN, 3:00 PM (2:00 PM) Duke at Queens, 3:00 PM Harper at Northern Illinois, 4:00 PM (3:00 PM) Purdue at Campbell, 5:00 PM North Dakota State vs. Stanford at Campbell, 5:00 PM Lock Haven vs. Ohio State at Nashville, TN, 5:00 PM (4:00 PM) NC State vs. Northern Iowa at Nashville, TN, 5:00 PM (4:00 PM) Lock Haven vs. Northern Iowa at Nashville, TN, 7:00 PM (6:00 PM) NC State vs. Ohio State at Nashville, TN, 7:00 PM (6:00 PM) Fairmont State at West Virginia, 7:00 PM Oklahoma State at Wyoming, 8:00 PM (6:00 PM) Wednesday, December 20: Hofstra at Morgan State, 2:00 PM Bloomsburg vs. Hofstra at Morgan State, 4:00 PM Bloomsburg at Morgan State, 6:00 PM Thursday, December 21: George Mason at Gardner-Webb, 1:00 PM Edinboro at Sacred Heart, 4:00 PM Ohio at Gardner-Webb, 5:00 PM George Mason at Queens, 6:00 PM Navy at American, 7:00 PM Cleveland State at Clarion, 7:00 PM Illinois vs. Missouri at St. Louis, MO, 8:00 PM (7:00 PM) Friday, December 22: Army West Point, Binghamton at Wilkes Open, hosted by Wilkes, 9:30 AM Binghamton, Brown, Central Michigan, Franklin & Marshall, Indiana, Lehigh at Sheridan Invitational, hosted by Lehigh, 10:00 AM *Edinboro at LIU, 4:00 PM *Edinboro at Hofstra, 7:00 PM

With links: Monday, December 18: Cornell vs. Little Rock at Nashville, TN, 3:00 PM Collegiate Duals 3.0 Rokfin Iowa State vs. Pittsburgh at Nashville, TN, 3:00 PM Collegiate Duals 3.0 Rokfin Cornell vs. Pittsburgh at Nashville, TN, 5:00 PM Collegiate Duals 3.0 Rokfin Iowa State vs. Little Rock at Nashville, TN, 5:00 PM Collegiate Duals 3.0 Rokfin Cornell vs. Iowa State at Nashville, TN, 7:00 PM Collegiate Duals 3.0 Rokfin Little Rock vs. Pittsburgh at Nashville, TN, 7:00 PM Collegiate Duals 3.0 Rokfin Tuesday, December 19: Lock Haven vs. NC State at Nashville, TN, 3:00 PM Collegiate Duals 3.0 Rokfin Northern Iowa vs. Ohio State at Nashville, TN, 3:00 PM Collegiate Duals 3.0 Rokfin Lock Haven vs. Ohio State at Nashville, TN, 5:00 PM Collegiate Duals 3.0 Rokfin NC State vs. Northern Iowa at Nashville, TN, 5:00 PM Collegiate Duals 3.0 Rokfin Lock Haven vs. Northern Iowa at Nashville, TN, 7:00 PM Collegiate Duals 3.0 Rokfin NC State vs. Ohio State at Nashville, TN, 7:00 PM Collegiate Duals 3.0 Rokfin North Dakota State at Campbell, 1:00 PM UFC Fight Pass Purdue vs. Stanford at Campbell, 1:00 PM UFC Fight Pass Stanford at Campbell, 3:00 PM UFC Fight Pass North Dakota State vs. Purdue at Campbell, 3:00 PM UFC Fight Pass Purdue at Campbell, 5:00 PM UFC Fight Pass North Dakota State vs. Stanford at Campbell, 5:00 PM UFC Fight Pass Duke vs. The Citadel at Queens, 12:00 PM The Citadel at Queens, 1:30 PM Queens Athletics All-Access Duke at Queens, 3:00 PM Queens Athletics All-Access Kent State at Northern Illinois, 12:00 PM NIU All-Access Kent State vs. Harper at Northern Illinois, 2:00 PM Northwestern at Northern Illinois, 2:00 PM NIU All-Access Harper at Northern Illinois, 4:00 PM NIU All-Access Fairmont State at West Virginia, 7:00 PM ESPN+ Oklahoma State at Wyoming, 8:00 PM FloWrestling Wednesday, December 20: Hofstra at Morgan State, 2:00 PM Morgan State All-Access Bloomsburg vs. Hofstra at Morgan State, 4:00 PM Morgan State All-Access Bloomsburg at Morgan State, 6:00 PM Morgan State All-Access Thursday, December 21: George Mason at Gardner-Webb, 1:00 PM ESPN+ Edinboro at Sacred Heart, 4:00 PM Ohio at Gardner-Webb, 5:00 PM ESPN+ George Mason at Queens, 6:00 PM Navy at American, 7:00 PM ESPN+ Cleveland State at Clarion, 7:00 PM FloWrestling Illinois vs. Missouri at St. Louis, MO, 8:00 PM UFC Fight Pass Friday, December 22: Army West Point, Binghamton at Wilkes Open 9:30 AM Binghamton, Brown, Central Michigan, Franklin & Marshall, Indiana, Lehigh at Sheridan Invitational 10:00 AM FloWrestling Edinboro at LIU, 1:00 PM ESPN+ Edinboro at Hofstra, 6:00 PM Hofstra Pride YouTube InterMat

This is why Tbar needs to make a full comeback so this thread could get hijacked on behalf of Braeden Davis

"The question echoes in the crowd's roar: 'What moves will you make with this acclaim?'" "As much as people do not like you sometimes, they still turn their heads to watch." "There are a lot of haters out there. Those rat bastards that don't like the way that we compete. I don't know what to say. I feel sorry for them, man." These All-Americans draw attention. Their score? A triumph, counted in the roars of profile views, descending in a sorted order. Qualifiers were ready to grapple with the mat of publicity, laying their profile bare for all to see. Note: the number next to the member name is the rate of profile views to posts.

He will be a full sized heavyweight with insane strength.

how many doping tests did Lance Armstrong pass? And he was targeted. The UFC tests, but then you will see a fighter say 90% of people are on something banned. I also know a lot of kid wrestlers that were prescribed HGH and some that were prescribed testosterone to go along with it. HGH among kid wrestlers is incredibly common.

I can teach you what it takes, and if you want it, earn it.

Nash is now listed as eligible

JRoss puts in some work. He deserves the views. These All-Americans are frequently funny and have a strong reputation. The Comedian score is a sorted descending order of members by rank as calculated ( received Haha reactions / posts ) x ( reputation / posts).

Brett Ungar doesn't have a chance to win an NCAA title. Just not enough horsepower.

Sounds like some people think PED use is incredibly rare and how someone looks or transforms is not at all indicator? What's the assumption, it's not used for sports. Or just not used by US wrestlers?

Nicely done by ScarletKnight. Folks may quibble, but the illustration is so awfully hard to disagree with. This man is incredibly talented, he's a stud, and he is - without any doubt - enhanced by the use of supplements. Which supplements exactly? Don't know - don't care, other than they are the ones that obviously worked for him. Super high-level athletes do this the world over, in basically all of sports competition. Like it or not, that's where we are. And, like it or not, its where we need to be if we expect to compete for titles.

And remember this match would be at 7,200 ft, Chris has been eating ice-cream & cookies at 950 ft. I think you nailed it.

my take is that the guy is a coward. but i also think it's an insane precedent to prosecute cops if someone should die on their watch. isn't that the slippery slope we'd end up with? i mean i guess i could be on board with it if they would have to prove clear excessive dereliction of duty.

St. Louis Style Spare Ribs are pork, not beef (brisket is beef). What I think you mean is that STL style ribs have the skirt and rib tips cut off, where the spare ribs aren't trimmed at all. I say this all in a joking manner, so don't take it bad, but...I wouldn't take advice on TX BBQ vs. KC BBQ from someone who says there's brisket on ribs TX BBQ is good, and there are some places that are REALLY good (brisket only), but KC BBQ overall is far superior. But it's all what you like...really smoky, salt and pepper? Texas. Sweet and Spicy with just the right amount of smoke, and more flavor than salt and pepper? Kansas City.

Does he help Shute up after the match?

And you call yourself a tiger fan? Also, mustard is gross.