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Sweeping the mistakes of covid policy under the rug has nothing to do with most of covid research. This is what I mean: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/10/covid-response-forgiveness/671879/. Articles like are abundant and an insult to any thinking person. And to your question about vaccines: I am a biochemist who makes his living (trying) to design medicines based on elements of the immune system in order to manipulate the immune system itself. I don't work on vaccine design directly but know enough about factors at play and personally know people who did design covid vaccines that reached clinical development to have an informed opinion. Adaptive immunity (the type that vaccines try to elicit) can be "local" in nature. It is very difficult to create a vaccine that is administered by injection in the arm that provides sterilizing immunity for respiratory viruses. There are multiple reasons for this and that doesn't even include the challenges associated with rapidly mutating viruses. This was widely accepted by most experts in the field (and a recent review by Fauci acknowledges this). It was apparent quite early on that the ability of the mRNA vaccines to prevent infection was relatively short-lived. Furthermore, some cohorts (young males) were obviously having unique adverse events to the mRNA vaccine (myocarditis). This was also known very early on. It is not uncommon for vaccines to induce significant adverse events in some populations. What was new was the gaslighting associated with obvious, albeit infrequent problems. So what do I think? I think it is clear some of the vaccines had the capacity to significantly reduce all-cause mortality. The meta-analysis of the clinical trial data make it clear the viral-based vectors (JNJ, AstraZeneca) worked particularly well in this regard. It is also clear there are adverse events. This means a careful cost-benefit analysis should be done by public health officials to prioritize whether and how one should be vaccinated. Those at risk for severe disease and death should get vaccinated, no question. Young, healthy people probably didn't need to get vaccinated and there is clear evidence to suggest the mRNA vaccine was a net harm, however small, for young men. I am vaccinated but feel strongly that this vaccines should not have been compulsory, especially for young men or others not at meaningful risk. The exclusion of people from society for refusing the vaccine was a disgrace and did much to erode trust in public health. It was obvious there was a political bent to this policy. Also, to not acknowledge that prior infection was sufficient to provide meaningful immunity goes against basic immunology of respiratory viruses. Obviously, there are some vaccines that are essential and now many people skeptical of the covid vaccines will conflate their (somewhat justified) reluctance with vaccines in general. This is a problem that never needed to exist and will be part of the legacy of covid-era public health technocrats.

They have Marc Anthony McGowan , #3 overall recruit , highest recruit since Kolodzik ( higher than glory and Monday) they have 1 other top 100 recruit and 3 more top 150 coming in and just had a national champ which always boasts recruiting …they have a pipeline to delbarton and Blair in state , a great multiple time ncaa champ as assistant coach I think they’ll be just fine moving forward

Let's not lose focus on the fact that this post is dumb on a whole other level, too. As much as I HATE the lazy, copycat, way over used "I enjoyed the ____era", the point of this hackneyed bit is to take a shot at something or someone you feel was over-hyped who then failed to live up to the perceived hype. Dragging out this fantastically unoriginal trope right after your target just achieved massive success is deliciously stupid.

https://www.teamusa.org/USA-Wrestling/Features/2023/March/28/Makoyed-named-USA-Wrestling-Womens-College-Wrestler-of-Year

And after all this - I still think it was great that Yianni and Vito stayed the course - and both planning to stick around at the RTC for a while. I'm looking forward to seeing what both can doon the world stage!

i have little doubt that a good majority want to just sweep the whole boogie bug thing under the rug... of course they do... the agreed, promoted, and vilified anyone that did not just blindly believe the craziness that was going on... promoted and vilified anyone that did not agree with their government official that was lying daily just trying to cover his own ass because he was involved in something he should not have been... now... when some semblance of truth starts to come out and they have no choice but to accept they were being puppets... now... it is we all have our own sense of morality... we all can make our own choices... we were just doing the best we can... sounds a lot like some redneck in a camo hat and overalls telling his slow witted wife he is sorry... everyone makes mistakes... he won't ever hit her again... come on back, baby...

Princeton’s incoming freshman: Marc-Anthony McGowan, 126 lbs, Blair Academy, National Prep Champ Drew Heethius, 132 lbs, Detroit Central, 3x Michigan State Champ Eligh Rivera, 138 lbs, Lake Highland (FL), National Prep Champ Tyler Vasquez, 138 lbs, Delbarton, NJ State Champ Holden Garcia, 172 lbs, NDGP, 2x PIAA finalist, 2022 Champ Zander Silva, 157 lbs, CBA, 2023 NJ States 2nd Anthony Moscatelli, 215 lbs, Mt Olive, NJ 7th place Plus Delbarton prospects junior Danny Jones, 120 lbs, NJ States runner up and Joe Davi, 144 lbs

Of course you completely miss the point. I wouldn't expect any less...

I disagree with your assertion that Sweden's success was not predictable. This is the whole point. All "experts" knew that it was futile/impossible to prevent the spread of highly infectious respiratory viruses, hence the WHO pandemic policy prior to 2020. This was obvious to anyone with domain expertise. The restrictions prevent none of the harm of the virus while ensuring all of the adverse collateral damage associated with the response. This should be intuitive to any thinking person once they understand how highly contagious respiratory viruses capable of cross-species transmission spread. Sorry, but this is a preposterous statement. You can do better than this. If protecting (or at least not sacrificing) the vulnerable isn't part of your moral code, then perhaps some introspection is in order.

Strongly disagree. Sweden, for example, has lower excess mortality than much of the rest of Europe (and certainly no worse). They avoided destroying their economy, a sad, obvious and predictable consequence of a broad-scale shut down of society. They kept children in school. The loss in learning due to extended school closures in the United States will have consequences that will reverberate for years. There was a wide-scale shut down of society where the individual rights of the citizenry were restricted. When authorities knew those restrictions were never going to result in the purported goals (just look at the WHO pandemic response plans prior to 2020) justifying their implementation, it most certainly is an issue of morality. I don't know about you, but keeping poor, inner-city minorities out of school for ~2 years, basically ensuring years of educational loss thereby ruining any potential for meritocratic upward mobility while simultaneously ensuring lower life-expectancy sounds like moral issue to me.

Don't mean to pick on you in particular GWN but there were people who got it right, more or less. Sweden's response was the right approach. So was the approach of Ron DeSantis. Proponents of the Great Barrington Declaration were also correct, more or less, regardless of the pathetic hit pieces Fauci and Collins commissioned (that BigRedFan cited). And it took serious courage to stand up for these correct (from both a scientific and moral perspective) but immensely unpopular beliefs (as determined by MSM and a small group of technocrats). The response to covid will have long-lasting negative consequences to American society. Many of them were predicted and predictable. Maybe we should listen to people who got it right? At the very least, we should be wary of any technocrat eager to make sweeping changes to society that impinge on the basic rights of its citizens. What I find amazing is that so many people went along with it all and some are still defending the government's actions during covid. And those same people are content to "just move on". One smart, cancelled guy summed up where we are headed pretty well: “The real problem of humanity is the following: We have Paleolithic emotions, medieval institutions and godlike technology. And it is terrifically dangerous, and it is now approaching a point of crisis overall.”

The reason being that most have moved on. If, as a country, we did too much - some will feel the need to point fingers. If we did too little - more finger pointing. It simply wasn't possible to make all the decisions to make everyone happy. All of the bickering is as relevant as the stink in the cow yard. We can all point fingers all day long and it won't accomplish anything. It happened, we dealt with it, none of our leadership did it well, it was a cluster, and now we can finally stop bitching. Which I'm honestly thankful for. By all means, continue to bicker. I doubt that my post will change anyone's mind. Just leave me out of that stink.

Trailer: Produced by Chris Pratt. I had not heard of this until yesterday's FRL. Might try to check it out. Would be a good way to support the wrestling community.

Discovered this new channel. Want to give them a shoutout. He breaks down the matches, strategy, technique etc. Very well done. Arujau vs. Fix breakdown There are many others It is analysis so it falls under fair use btw

Amen, brother RB, Amen! D3

This makes more sense than the NCAA rules.

So...to be clear...Congress can change the number of Justices...and has done so before multiple times, including literally in the Act you cite...and I am advocating that Congress should change the number of Justices....but that's changing the rules...even though the rules explicitly tell you that Congress can set the number of Justices....so....why is following the rules also changing the rules?

I like Huff Gym! been to about a dozen wrestling duals there over the years, and it's really the perfect venue for sports that don't draw huge crowds. Parking can be annoying though, but just have to allow the extra time to park a few streets down if the lot is full. Did you know that the term "March Madness" was coined in Huff Hall https://www.ihsa.org/Sports-Activities/March-Madness-Experience/March-Madness-History (okay, that's basketball related, so probably not so important...also apparently some in Indiana take issue with Illinoisans claiming to have invented the term https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/2021/03/16/ncaa-illinois-own-march-madness-indiana-invented/4707664001/ ) Either way, the Illini wrestling team has moved their competition venue to the State Farm Center in recent years. Hopefully better for recruiting (It's been the venue for the HS state tournament for over half a century, of course!). I'm mixed on the move, personally. Parking is much easier, and when the crowd is into the wrestling, it's fun. when the crowd isn't engaged, it seems kind of empty and echoey. Anyway, the wrestling is usually good, so as long as the athletes like it, I'm happy to walk through the unnecessary metal detectors in order to enjoy the show. Best of all, like almost all Illini sporting events, admission is free, the exceptions being football and men's (can get pricy) and women's ($5/ticket) hoops. I actually visited this arena this year to watch the Northwestern vs Illinois dual. I had been having so much fun watching the home duals in Champaign I figured it was worth driving a couple of hours for what looked to be a good matchup. Was a super exciting dual, even though NU beat Illinois on criteria. It's smaller capacity than the state farm center, but still way oversized for the fan turnout. I think my ticket in cost $7 dollars, so quite a bit more expensive than I had been paying at home too...

UW Fieldhouse in Madison. Very good old school venue. U of I Huff Hall. Very poor old school venue. This has to make recruiting difficult. NU Welsh-Ryan Arena. I wound up buying enough tickets that is was easier buying a group package than individual tickets even though there was nearly twice as many in the group package as what I needed. This prompted someone from the athletic department to reach out to me. They assumed I was bringing a team. Who was I to correct them. They asked if I wanted my team name up on the video screen. Sure. So I made up a name that was really a coded message to one of the participating wrestlers. We watched the entire match and our "team name" never came up. Someone must have figured it out. The next day the athletic department reached out to make sure we had a good time. I told them we did, but were a little sad to not see our name on the board. As a way to make it up to my "team" they offered to send NU merchandise to my kids, all they needed were sizes. Having taken this way too far, I politely declined the offer. That was 5 years ago (?). I still get emails from them. Iowa Carver Hawkeye. The noise the home crowd made when they thought their man had secured a last second takedown actually made me dizzy. Never experienced anything like that before.

Once in a while I'll make the drive up to Ithaca to see Cornell, they always have a pretty vocal, if not always large, crowd there. In the NYC area - Columbia is an easy ticket, not much for atmosphere; but the RAC at Rutgers can rock, and Princeton has stepped up in recent years, I've seen good ones there. Years ago they couldn't even charge admission, and still the wrestlers nearly outnumbered the fans. Drexel, Ryder are easy trips, and I've seen some good wrestling at both. While I hate to admit it - Grace Hall at Lehigh is perhaps the best venue, I've seen some terrific duals there.

For a minute there, I thought you were talking about George Santos.

Wow...so disingenuous from some of you and quite sad really. You are focusing on freaking sources and tip toeing around addressing what was actually said...and even trying to downplay it by saying "Killing is the thing that is illegal". Wow...some of you continue to show your disgusting bipartisan thought process. There should have been no other response except this guy is disgusting and shouldn't be let anywhere near our kids in college. LJB was spot on...do some of you freaking lick windows??

good ole BonoBob

Rolling over in my grave honestly.

Starocci's response to Parris winning the Hodge is the kind of sportsmanship/character that likely contributed to Starocci not winning the Hodge. Technically, being an arrogant douche doesn't disqualify anyone, but let's be honest...

Potential recruits now see that they can win an NCAA title at Princeton. Great for the sport.

Was great to see Princeton with a National champ. Who wouldn’t want to go to Princeton?

Make the Ferrari's post a good behavior bond...

It’s not that there was a lot that wasn’t known about covid, a lot was known about respiratory viruses, and how they act. The WHO plans that Theo alludes to specifies that lockdowns are not to be imposed because they have been tried before and only made things worse. It’s also well known among epidemiologists that you can’t vaccinate your way out of a pandemic. For some reason, governments worldwide stood this knowledge on its head for this debacle. The fact that U.S. dollars paid to design and create this virus, and China’s responsibility for spreading it, may hold the answer for why. The “vaccine” didn’t keep you catching the virus, it didn’t keep you from spreading the virus, there is some evidence that it diminished the severity of symptoms if infection fell within a small window post injection, at the risk of a compromised immune system. And the virus did what viruses do, it mutated to a point where it is still dangerous to some, but not many. Kinda like the flu. Which brings us full circle, because the very similar attempts at controlling a virus in about 1916 taught doctors what worked and what didn’t. But the ones associated with government tried to force something else on us for this one. My wife’s 75 y/o sister has had covid three times, once prior to being vaccinated and twice after, is still active. Their oldest sister, who was somewhat compromised, died. Our next door neighbor, a 66 y/o nurse who refused to be vaccinated, has had it twice and is fine. I saw a 20 something elite NFL athlete die on live tv. They say he died twice and was brought back, he’s still having trouble. He won’t play in the NFL again. That’s another one of those things people don’t talk about in mixed company.

No axe to grind with you at all. You seem like a decent dude. I just feel very strongly that sweeping the mistakes of covid under the rug is unacceptable and that the correct approach to dealing with it was known a priori. And that approach was not the heavy-handed one that was almost universally taken. The level of groupthink that occurred during the pandemic should make everyone take pause and reflect on its implications.

I know a lot of people that have done this. They got so accustomed to wearing the mask all day that they sometimes forgot to take it off when they got in the car. Some places (ex: hospitals) still require masks. We're all creatures of habit, and it's easily been long enough to develop the habit. I've done it on my motorcycle... but only on cold days. I liked the way the neoprene mask kept my face warm. I imagine some people who saw me thought I was crazy to think I needed to wear a mask riding, maybe even had a laugh at it. Amazing how judgmental people can be when they haven't taken the time or effort to try to understand first. I imagine that's the product of the "us vs them" caveman mentality. Covid is finally receding, but that caveman mentality is going strong as ever.

One of the most random attacks I've ever seen on these forums. @feet2backwhat's your beef with Princeton?

It is one of America's most highly regarded academic institutions and its located in a state that loves wrestling. They have a great chance to recover from these graduations

I think this might end up being a Gable Steveson VS Cael Sanderson final. Steveson probably wins it.

Hodge was an upstanding character, nothing wrong with that being part of the criteria. The fact that a couple guys may have snuck in under the wire doesn't mean we should downgrade the award from there on.

I'm glad they took the completely subjective "Sportsmanship" (or was it heart?) out of it. If you're the best wrestler that year, and you're a jackass, that shouldn't disqualify you from winning something that's based on results that season. News flash, not every Hodge winner from the past is of high moral/ethical fiber or high character people. That's just the nature of people. If Starocci has the stats to validate the #1 next year for this, I'll have no qualms putting him on the #1 line.

I didn't assert that. But I can see where you may have misunderstood what I posted. When it comes to guesswork, there are more than a few countries that could have been predicted to have done better than us. But that's merely guesswork. So much we didn't know about Covid at the time. It's easy to claim otherwise in hindsight. As I've said, we all have our own personal morality - as it should be. We're all very different people, with different perspectives. We are all relevant and important. How you've warped that into you judging my morality isn't particularly good. I'm being as calm and as reasonable as possible. I don't get it - what axe do you have to grind with me?

Are we arguing for socialized medicine and a literal transformation of our incredibly overweight society? Because Sweden is not the US. Our obesity rate is almost 7x theirs and their general healthcare outlook and outcomes are a wee bit different. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I'm sure you believe that those you listed "got it right, more or less" - I just don't agree with you. IMO, DeSantis was no more correct than Fauci - and it would be easily argued that he was less correct. Which I wouldn't argue, because IMO, none of them got it right and they were all just flawed humans who got it wrong to different degrees. This was a zero-win scenario. What you said about "correct (from both a scientific and moral perspective)" doesn't sit well with me. We all have our own versions of morality - which is fine, and to be expected. But to somehow claim those that agree with our personal morality were correct - while those that didn't agree were incorrect... isn't logical. Earlier Covid conversations on themat.com were helpful in that they allowed us to exchange perspectives and learn as we tried to figure out how to deal with something none of us had ever seen before. It was valuable, personally I learned a great deal. But what we're seeing from various posters now is mostly politically based, finger pointing garbage that serves no useful purpose. Like I said earlier, better to let sleeping dogs lie. But that's just me.

Starocci is a 3x ncaa champ who hasn’t lost in 2 years, has avenged every lose he’s had …has multiple wins over an ncaa champ (Lewis) , absolutely crushed Hidley last year , stuck labriola with little effort in the finals and has a bonus rate of 57 and 67 the past 2 seasons and is going for a 4th title , idk see how is isn’t the number 1 p4p guy

COVID is a virus, not a microbe. FFS. Better do some more YouTube research.

You are comparing apples and ceiling fans there. Spencer Lee was recovering from double ACL surgery. Steveson has beaten Parris every single time in easier fashion. Parris could beat every other human on the planet - he just wasn't going to beat Steveson. You really need to understand my tendencies as a poster, as a Michigan alumni - former wrestler, and flat-out Parris fanboy-isms to appreciate the level that I put Steveson at. Also, I don't know that this was the best version of Parris. Hopefully we see him at the US Open to know for sure. I still think he was pretty hesitant in a lot of matches - which injury will do. 2020-2021 season Parris had bonus in every match he wrestled - sans Steveson. That includes Cass and Kerk.

Great job living up to your name [emoji3]

Definitely a Rutgers fans bc they are the only fan base with a rivalry/beef towards Princeton, especially since the RTC split and the Kolodzik Ashnault rivalry

What does reverence have to do with anything as far as match prediction goes? Gable Steveson would have won a Folkstyle wrestling match. Period. Gable would have easily won this year, too. He would be a 3x Hodge winner had he wrestled. Mason Stevesonson would have gotten destroyed.

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I can already imagine job interviews lol So Mr. Slavikouski, I see here that you obtained a bachelor's degree from Harvard and you received a graduate diploma from... Arizona State? Did you cheat your way into Harvard and were exposed? Did you commit criminal atrocities? I understand that one may not be able to stay at the top when that is where you started, but sir you ended up at the McDonald's of grad schools. We have serious reservations about your potential employment with our firm.