Penn State Roster

[Gene Mills Fan]

3 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

Just wanted to clarify, it is confirmed.  If I may make a suggestion, look up the actual rules.   You may not get the answer you were hoping for, but you will at least have the real answer and not have to rely on internet speculation to keep your hopes alive. 

Is practice with no event;  organized competition? serious question.

[AlderPeak]

15 minutes ago, Gene Mills Fan said:

Is practice with no event;  organized competition? serious question.

Activities that trigger organized competition: 
 
1- Any competition that is scheduled in advance
2- Any competition in which official score is kept
3- Any competition in which individual or team standings or statistics are maintained
4- Any competition in which an official timer or game officials are used
5- Any competition in which admission is charged
6- Any competition in which teams are regularly formed or team rosters are predetermined
7- Any competition in which team uniforms are used
8- Any competition in which an individual or team is privately or commercially sponsored 
9- Any competition that is either directly or indirectly sponsored, promoted or administered by an individual, an organization or any other agency

Summary of NCAA Regulations

[VakAttack]

They can take advantage of loopholes, but we don't have to act stupid.  Everybody knows what this is.

[OhioHusker]

2 hours ago, JeanGuy said:

I do have to say that among my concerns with what the NCAA has done this is pretty low on my list. Somehow, they allowed athletes to go from being reimbursed for their name, image, or likeness to straight up pay to play. The eligibility game especially in wrestling has been broken for a while and this doesn't really make a dent. The Olympic Redshirt has always been a joke. Medical Redshirting became a joke. The whole way the messed up the COVID stuff. It goes on and on. Religious missions have been around for a long time. The system has been broken for years.

Two guys saving a year that they would have been backups barely registers as a blip on my radar.

So true. College sports have no semblance to what they were ten years ago. Getting up in arms about something like this is truly silly.

[OhioHusker]

12 hours ago, 1032004 said:

There you go making assumptions again.  We don’t know this to be true, my guess is it’s not.

Not a smartass question, will they be allowed to exercise?

[OMW]

11 minutes ago, OhioHusker said:

So true. College sports have no semblance to what they were ten years ago. Getting up in arms about something like this is truly silly.

agreed - the emotional reactivity in this thread is laughable

[ionel]

1 hour ago, AlderPeak said:

Activities that trigger organized competition: 
 
1- Any competition that is scheduled in advance
2- Any competition in which official score is kept
3- Any competition in which individual or team standings or statistics are maintained
4- Any competition in which an official timer or game officials are used
5- Any competition in which admission is charged
6- Any competition in which teams are regularly formed or team rosters are predetermined
7- Any competition in which team uniforms are used
8- Any competition in which an individual or team is privately or commercially sponsored 
9- Any competition that is either directly or indirectly sponsored, promoted or administered by an individual, an organization or any other agency

Summary of NCAA Regulations

So can non eligible high school and Jr high kids practice with d1 ... its not competition so ... ? 

[1032004]

1 hour ago, WrestlingRasta said:

Just wanted to clarify, it is confirmed.  If I may make a suggestion, look up the actual rules.   You may not get the answer you were hoping for, but you will at least have the real answer and not have to rely on internet speculation to keep your hopes alive. 

What’s confirmed?  You’re saying they will not be allowed to practice with NLWC?

Also, you’re acting like RTC rules are cut and dry.  Clearly they’re not.  As I alluded to earlier for example, apparently Iowa thinks some things are illegal that Oklahoma State doesn’t.

[1032004]

1 hour ago, VakAttack said:

They can take advantage of loopholes, but we don't have to act stupid.  Everybody knows what this is.

Reading this thread and elsewhere, I don’t think they do…

[1032004]

1 hour ago, Gene Mills Fan said:

PSU website roster: 28 wrestlers no Davis picture.

Will any media members have the balls to ask what happened to him?

[1032004]

3 hours ago, AlderPeak said:

Activities that trigger organized competition: 
 
1- Any competition that is scheduled in advance
2- Any competition in which official score is kept
3- Any competition in which individual or team standings or statistics are maintained
4- Any competition in which an official timer or game officials are used
5- Any competition in which admission is charged
6- Any competition in which teams are regularly formed or team rosters are predetermined
7- Any competition in which team uniforms are used
8- Any competition in which an individual or team is privately or commercially sponsored 
9- Any competition that is either directly or indirectly sponsored, promoted or administered by an individual, an organization or any other agency

Summary of NCAA Regulations

I don’t think this answers @Gene Mills Fan‘s question…What is the definition of “competition”?   

[gimpeltf]

2 hours ago, 1032004 said:

What’s confirmed?  You’re saying they will not be allowed to practice with NLWC?

Also, you’re acting like RTC rules are cut and dry.  Clearly they’re not.  As I alluded to earlier for example, apparently Iowa thinks some things are illegal that Oklahoma State doesn’t.

Are you suggesting the "Mission" would be held in Happy Valley?

[AlderPeak]

5 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

I don’t think this answers @Gene Mills Fan‘s question…What is the definition of “competition”?   

The list is the NCAA's definition of "organized competition" and yes, it doesn't really answer the question of whether training with the team qualifies.  

In the old redshirt rules, "organized competition" for wrestling mean just the events, not training.  You could train all year and as long as you didn't compete in over 5 events, you qualified for the redshirt.  Based on how they interpreted it then, I would think that these guys can train all they want, but just can't compete.

[1032004]

1 minute ago, gimpeltf said:

Are you suggesting the "Mission" would be held in Happy Valley?

I have no idea, but I have seen some suggest this as a possibility, at least for a significant portion of it.  I know Cael did say they would supposedly be doing some traveling.  I don’t think any of us really know how much that will be.  Or for that matter, where it will be, and if there are other world-class wrestling training options there.  

[1032004]

15 minutes ago, AlderPeak said:

The list is the NCAA's definition of "organized competition" and yes, it doesn't really answer the question of whether training with the team qualifies.  

In the old redshirt rules, "organized competition" for wrestling mean just the events, not training.  You could train all year and as long as you didn't compete in over 5 events, you qualified for the redshirt.  Based on how they interpreted it then, I would think that these guys can train all they want, but just can't compete.

@WrestlingRasta might yell at me again for not being 100% sure, but I’m pretty sure not being on the roster they can not practice with “the team” - Penn State that is.  But I’m not seeing anything so far that would prohibit them from practicing with NLWC – you know, that club that practices on the Penn State campus, uses the mascot of Penn State, has Penn State coaches and athletes at their practices, but is totally not affiliated with Penn State at all (and yes, I know that gripe is with the entire RTC system and not PSU/NLWC).  And of course it goes without saying that if Mirasola and Henckel can still train at NLWC for a significant portion of the year, that they are by no means “sacrificing a year of training.”

[ScottishSteel]

19 hours ago, JWC said:

Oh the irony here

FWIW - I believe this specifically named after Sue; the wife - not trying to open any can of worms or have that discussion

[Fletcher]

The only surprising part of all this is that Manning didn't think of this scam first.

[nhs67]

49 minutes ago, Fletcher said:

The only surprising part of all this is that Manning didn't think of this scam first.

Grown not bought.

[MPhillips]

6 hours ago, VakAttack said:

Everybody knows what this is.

Except this dummy...

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I do not believe wrestling had anything to do with their decision. I’ll keep R out of it but there are people who believe in something so sincerely and deeply they want to tell others about it. 

 

[Rassling]

jmo

[1032004]

50 minutes ago, MPhillips said:

Except this dummy...

 

Yeah guys, this isn’t a surprise, PSU guys are religious!

Except for the fact that PSU hasn’t had a guy take a mission in 13 years, and pretty sure never one that wasn’t Mormon.   And now, in the first year that redshirts are no longer a thing, there are 2.  Totally not a coincidence at all!

How naive can people be?

[Hammerlock3]

On 11/10/2026 at 1:52 PM, Caveira said:

It’s super common for non Mormons to take a year off school for a “religious mission” right ?   Especially without their twin brother right?

its complete BS

[ionel]

Anyone else shocked the Mirasola brothers aren't going on the "mission" together?  What a cool thing to take a mission with your bro but even more so your twin bro.  

[nhs67]

29 minutes ago, ionel said:

Anyone else shocked the Mirasola brothers aren't going on the "mission" together?  What a cool thing to take a mission with your bro but even more so your twin bro.  

Would have been a great year for Barr to go up and win HWT as well.

Haines gets his eligibility, comes back at 197 and Barr goes 285.

Both still win, obviously.

[BruceyB]

Has Basch applauded the genius of this maneuver yet? This is a great way to allow these guys to make the most of their college careers. You have to get creative when you have a room as loaded as Penn State's. It's not against the rules, so why shouldn't Cael and the athletes take advantage if it best serves both the individuals and the team? They weren't going to start, so they decided to take a year off to serve the Lord. Everyone wins, so the only people making a fuss about this are just Penn State haters.  WE ARE.

But seriously, it's actually kind of funny that Cael is just leaning into being the evil empire of wrestling with a stunt like this. The eruption when any PSU wrestler loses in March is going to go extra crazy this year.

Edited yesterday at 12:58 AM by BruceyB