Penn State Roster

[Gene Mills Fan]

Missionary work in the Republic of Dagestan? 

[MNRodent]

In a brilliant countermove, Tom Brands and David Taylor have announced that several key athletes on their teams will now take advantage of the maternity clause, to preserve eligibility.

 

[Gene Mills Fan]

5 minutes ago, MNRodent said:

In a brilliant countermove, Tom Brands and David Taylor have announced that several key athletes on their teams will now take advantage of the maternity clause, to preserve eligibility.

 

I heard one of the Raneys just joined the Marines for a year.

[AZ_wrestling]

This does not obviously benefit PSU. Now, at two weight classes if the starter gets hurt, there’s no quality backup. Huge loss in points, especially at 174. I don’t see how keeping two backup wrestlers for an additional year (as opposed to having them this year) is beneficial for the team. This helps Henckel and Mirasola, not PSU. I suspect at least one transfers after next year. 

[Caveira]

3 minutes ago, AZ_wrestling said:

This does not obviously benefit PSU. Now, at two weight classes if the starter gets hurt, there’s no quality backup. Huge loss in points, especially at 174. I don’t see how keeping two backup wrestlers for an additional year (as opposed to having them this year) is beneficial for the team. This helps Henckel and Mirasola, not PSU. I suspect at least one transfers after next year. 

They can go back to psu if the starter gets hurt.   At least that is my understanding.   The “mission” just has to say ok 

that or somehow psu recruited TWO of the the most catholic wrestlers or athletes in ncaa history because it’s never been done (a one year Catholic mission)  Clearly this is just a statistical anomaly and not a way to game the 5 for 5 rules ..

Edited Tuesday at 08:50 PM by Caveira

[nhs67]

2 minutes ago, AZ_wrestling said:

This does not obviously benefit PSU. Now, at two weight classes if the starter gets hurt, there’s no quality backup. Huge loss in points, especially at 174. I don’t see how keeping two backup wrestlers for an additional year (as opposed to having them this year) is beneficial for the team. This helps Henckel and Mirasola, not PSU. I suspect at least one transfers after next year. 

Especially at 174?

How big a difference is Henkel from Cunningham?

[RandolphTJones]

Loop holes already being found around this 5 for 5 rule. NCAA looking silly. 

[AZ_wrestling]

5 minutes ago, Caveira said:

They can go back to psu if the starter gets hurt.   At least that is my understanding.   The “mission” just has to say ok 

that or somehow psu recruited TWO of the the most catholic wrestlers or athletes in ncaa history because it’s never been done (a one year Catholic mission)  Clearly this is just a statistical anomaly and not a way to game the 5 for 5 rules ..

I wasn’t aware they can just quit mid mission and join the team again if they decide. Do we know if that’s true? 

[GimJustafan]

1 minute ago, AZ_wrestling said:

I wasn’t aware they can just quit mid mission and join the team again if they decide. Do we know if that’s true? 

are they enrolled in school during the mission?

[AZ_wrestling]

4 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

Especially at 174?

How big a difference is Henkel from Cunningham?

When’s the last time Cunnigham wrestled 174? 

[Caveira]

2 minutes ago, AZ_wrestling said:

I wasn’t aware they can just quit mid mission and join the team again if they decide. Do we know if that’s true? 

Google says it is.  I’m not an ncaa lawyer.   

But this is clearly jobbing the 5 for 5 eligibility rules to help psu     

and they will still be training.  

[AZ_wrestling]

3 minutes ago, GimJustafan said:

are they enrolled in school during the mission?

Have no idea. They may or may not stay enrolled. In any event, they wouldn’t be able to practice with the team. 

[Ricketycricket]

12 minutes ago, RandolphTJones said:

Loop holes already being found around this 5 for 5 rule. NCAA looking silly. 

The NCAA should push back on this or everybody who wants to redshirt will be doing this. Glad it took Cael a few weeks to wait for a loophole. 

[OMW]

9 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Google says it is.  I’m not an ncaa lawyer.   

But this is clearly jobbing the 5 for 5 eligibility rules to help psu     

and they will still be training.  

and you do realize that if Penn State can do this, other universities will be able to as well?

[OMW]

42 minutes ago, Gene Mills Fan said:

I heard one of the Raneys just joined the Marines for a year.

it's kind of like a Christmas Wish and since today is the Marine Corps Birthday (251 years, RAH!), he gets a special dispensation and only has to do a year instead of 4!

[Caveira]

5 minutes ago, AZ_wrestling said:

Have no idea. They may or may not stay enrolled. In any event, they wouldn’t be able to practice with the team. 

I don’t think they can stay enrolled at psu.   
 

Also the grand internet is reporting rumors will is injured too 

[Caveira]

10 minutes ago, OMW said:

and you do realize that if Penn State can do this, other universities will be able to as well?

We shouldn’t promote age cheating for any team.   I wouldn’t want other universities to do this.   We don’t need a roster full of 25+ year olds 

I don’t condone taking 8th grade twice.   It’s legal but immoral.  
 

this only helps schools with team depth.  Only a handful of schools could take advantage of it in a meaningful way for the team but I can see how individuals would be helped by it on smaller teams.   I don’t want either 

Edited Tuesday at 09:21 PM by Caveira

[1032004]

28 minutes ago, AZ_wrestling said:

Have no idea. They may or may not stay enrolled. In any event, they wouldn’t be able to practice with the team. 

“The team” being PSU.  What about NLWC?

[jchapman]

It should either be a 5 for 5 with no exceptions, or if there are exceptions, everyone should get to use one for whatever they want.

[RandolphTJones]

24 minutes ago, Ricketycricket said:

The NCAA should push back on this or everybody who wants to redshirt will be doing this. Glad it took Cael a few weeks to wait for a loophole. 

"Religion" might be loophole for any and all universities, especially with the numerous different beliefs/cultures out there. Anyone can have a "mission." 

[RandolphTJones]

24 minutes ago, OMW said:

and you do realize that if Penn State can do this, other universities will be able to as well?

They will!

[MNRodent]

Just now, RandolphTJones said:

"Religion" might be loophole for any and all universities, especially with the numerous different beliefs/cultures out there. Anyone can have a "mission." 

You could just walk the Earth like Kwai Chang Caine, rough up a few outlaws once in a while, and it could be considered a mission.

[BarSeries]

 

[Caveira]

4 minutes ago, RandolphTJones said:

"Religion" might be loophole for any and all universities, especially with the numerous different beliefs/cultures out there. Anyone can have a "mission." 

You can always manipulate with religion.    Some guy who used to bad booth the church of Scientology.   He founded a church called the church of Scientology  sucks on the belief system that Scientology sucks.   Now the church of Scientology can’t sue him because it discriminates against his religion.   Look it up I dunno how to make this up 

[AlderPeak]

34 minutes ago, AZ_wrestling said:

Have no idea. They may or may not stay enrolled. In any event, they wouldn’t be able to practice with the team. 

They can't participate in Penn State wrestling training if they are not rostered.

But there may be a loophole in that they can technically train with NLWC.