Penn State Roster

[Rassling]

4 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

I mean even on the PSU forum I’ve seen guys being critical of this tactic despite being religious.  Maybe kind of a “doing the right thing for the wrong reasons” kind of thing…

You’ve seen PSU guys in the PSU forum being critical of this particular issue with these two guys? I’d like confirmation on that. Who else can confirm this? I’m not a member with access.

[Caveira]

44 minutes ago, Ricketycricket said:

I was thinking, maybe Cael is trolling the NCAA. He seems frustrated with them in interviews and rightfully thinks Haines should be eligible if Mendez is. 

He is a smart guy and I'm sure he realizes how transparent the mission cover is. 

Carl is mad at the Ohio governor for signing an executive order and the pa governor (no idea who) didn’t?    That’s the ncaa?

[Gus]

Is the religious exemption outside the rules of the NCAA? No. Does that make it right? No. 

Listen, most folks will disagree with me and that is okay. A true biblical mission is to take the gospel to a region where it is currently not being preached or it is being oppressed. Most true missionaries of the gospel of Jesus Christ spend much time in prayer, reflection, and spiritual preparation before making a spiritual commitment to further the gospel. Sadly, much of what is called "missions" work is nothing more than a vacation bought and paid for by the church disguised as weak humanitarian efforts - money wasted and no lasting impact. 

Where I am going with this is that if a person is being called by God into the mission field to labor for Him, he will not make his decision based on a wrestle off result, a girlfriend breaking up with him, or any other external circumstances of life. If he is called of God, it will be his priority regardless of the circumstances. 

Edited 15 hours ago by Gus

[Gene Mills Fan]

14 minutes ago, Gus said:

Is the religious exemption outside the rules of the NCAA? No. Does that make it right? No. 

Listen, most folks will disagree with me and that is okay. A true biblical mission is to take the gospel to a region where it is currently not being preached or it is being oppressed. Most true missionaries of the gospel of Jesus Christ spend much time in prayer, reflection, and spiritual preparation before making a spiritual commitment to further the gospel. Sadly, much of what is called "missions" work is nothing more than a vacation bought and paid for by the church disguised as weak humanitarian efforts - money wasted and no lasting impact. 

Where I am going with this is that if a person is being called by God into the mission field to labor for Him, he will not make his decision based on a wrestle off result, a girlfriend breaking up with him, or any other external circumstances of life. If he is called of God, it will be his priority regardless of the circumstances. 

If they heard from God and or it was their idea and not Cael's or the coaching staff, I'm ok with it.

[Gus]

13 minutes ago, Gene Mills Fan said:

If they heard from God and or it was their idea and not Cael's or the coaching staff, I'm ok with it.

Heard from God conveniently after losing a wrestle-off??? C'mon man.

[MPhillips]

38 minutes ago, Rassling said:

I’m not a member with access.

https://www.on3.com/boards/threads/2026-27-lineup-projections-discussions.8739491/page-40#post-193185744

Nor am I...

[Rassling]

4 minutes ago, MPhillips said:

https://www.on3.com/boards/threads/2026-27-lineup-projections-discussions.8739491/page-40#post-193185744

Nor am I...

thanks for the link but I prefer being a dummy  for not toeing the line like others. C’mon Philipo, pull a few examples of PSU guys @ the PSU forum challenging the motive of these two young wrestlers. Perhaps JC is working on something more concrete and will beat you to it.
 

[Gene Mills Fan]

8 minutes ago, Rassling said:

thanks for the link but I prefer being a dummy  for not toeing the line like others. C’mon Philipo, pull a few examples of PSU guys @ the PSU forum challenging the motive of these two young wrestlers. Perhaps JC is working on something more concrete and will beat you to it.
 

MP didn't make the claim. So that's what he gets for being a nice guy?

[MPhillips]

5 minutes ago, Gene Mills Fan said:

MP didn't make the claim. So that's what he gets for being a nice guy?

I'm used to his antics. He's still young.

[Rassling]

16 minutes ago, Gene Mills Fan said:

MP didn't make the claim. So that's what he gets for being a nice guy?

I thanked MP for the link and tried to encourage him to pull a few examples since it appeared he saw the claims as well. I thought we were both being nice guys. Gene Mills, your break is over. Please get back to work.

[neweruser69]

My only defense of the PSU move here is that the NCAA has been willfully corrupt for decades and I see no issue with kids maximizing their opportunity and ability to earn. 

[WrestlingRasta]

From NCAA

 

“Yelling at me”.   Wow. 

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

3 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

From NCAA

 

“Yelling at me”.   Wow. 

What about an RTC workout without college coaches? Or a workout at ATT State College or M2?  Aaron Brooks needs training partners!

[2001Hokie]

11 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

From NCAA

 

“Yelling at me”.   Wow. 

Is that posted somewhere in the NCAA rules?  That looks like an ai interpretation of them, so I'm curious about the source.

[1032004]

27 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

From NCAA

 

“Yelling at me”.   Wow. 

There are no PSU coaches listed as coaches for the NLWC.

Also, this:

14 minutes ago, 2001Hokie said:

Is that posted somewhere in the NCAA rules?  That looks like an ai interpretation of them, so I'm curious about the source.

 

[WrestlingRasta]

10 minutes ago, 2001Hokie said:

Is that posted somewhere in the NCAA rules?  That looks like an ai interpretation of them, so I'm curious about the source.

It was a cited graph present by gpt, which I checked. 
 

Do I believe this decision was solely religion based?  Of course not.   Do I have an issue with exercising this exemption? As long as they don’t break the rules, do the things they're supposed to do and don’t do the things they aren’t supposed to do…not at all.  
 

And thats all I got to say about that. 

[alex1fly]

Cael loves a loophole. This should surprise no one. 

[GV4444]

So Cael is gaming the system.   Everyone is upset and will remain so until a few guys from every top 7 team starts doing it next year.

Gaming the system has never been done before, right?  I seem to recall some sketchy injury redshirts, like getting a red shirt year after a sprained ankle or something when your fill in does better.  Just sayin' 

Keep the r out of it someone said.  How?  As noted by another poster, has any student athlete take a mission sabbatical other than a mormon?  If this is relevant, should there be a carve out only for mormons?  Anyone should be open to getting the mission waiver, or it should be eliminated completely.  Why do mormons need this carve out?  They can just do their 2 year mission after their 5 years of eligilbility.  (yes it is allowed)

So, yes it gaming the system.   Having said that, what if they actually leave State College, go do missionary work somewhere while not participating in any organized wrestling activity?  How is effectively different to Mormon mission years?  Heck, this rule could be boon to missionary work.  

 

[1032004]

16 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

It was a cited graph present by gpt, which I checked. 
 

Do I believe this decision was solely religion based?  Of course not.   Do I have an issue with exercising this exemption? As long as they don’t break the rules, do the things they're supposed to do and don’t do the things they aren’t supposed to do…not at all.  
 

And thats all I got to say about that. 

Can you provide the citation?  In addition to the coaching comment, I’m sure you’re aware an RTC is not “affiliated.”

[BarSeries]

 

[Rassling]

1 hour ago, BarSeries said:

 

I just deleted my video - sorry didn’t see yours right away. Is this the same video when he spoke about RBY as well?

[BarSeries]

20 minutes ago, Rassling said:

I just deleted my video - sorry didn’t see yours right away. Is this the same video when he spoke about RBY as well?

No, not the same. 

[ionel]

9 hours ago, Gene Mills Fan said:

His twin brother stayed home to sow and plow the fields!

That's why there were tou of us.  

[CoachB]

On 11/10/2026 at 2:28 PM, 1032004 said:

Religious mission lol. What a joke.

You think this is bad? This...this chicanery? He's done worse. You think the top 2-3 prospects in every weight class just happen to commit to the same school? He orchestrated it! He let Starocci treat the practice room like a proctology clinic! And Penn State helps him with NIL money. What are they thinking? He's been like this since Iowa State, pushing out Douglas. "Oh, not our Cael. Not our precious Cael!" And he gets to break all time records? What a sick joke!

[1032004]

7 hours ago, WrestlingRasta said:

It was a cited graph present by gpt, which I checked. 
 

Do I believe this decision was solely religion based?  Of course not.   Do I have an issue with exercising this exemption? As long as they don’t break the rules, do the things they're supposed to do and don’t do the things they aren’t supposed to do…not at all.  
 

And thats all I got to say about that. 

 

7 hours ago, 1032004 said:

Can you provide the citation?  In addition to the coaching comment, I’m sure you’re aware an RTC is not “affiliated.”

Also since you mentioned GPT, I asked it:

“Can an NCAA wrestler participate in RTC practices during a religious mission?”

“An NCAA wrestler may potentially participate in USA Wrestling RTC practices while serving an official religious mission, but the religious-mission exception does not automatically authorize all RTC participation.”

 

…which aligns with my earlier statement of the answer does not seem to be clear one way or the other.