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With the World Championships wrapped up and the College season about 6 weeks away, it is time to start revving the NCAA engine a little. Let's start by looking at All-Americans. And let's get this out of the way up front. Yes, I include the top 8 seeds from the cancelled 2020 tournament. So sue me. AA Trivia There have been 190 schools with at least one All-American. A total of 5,590 All-American honors have been shared by 3,307 wrestlers (or perhaps fewer if I have some mis-spellings). In 1981 there were only 79 All-Americans as there was no 8th place awarded at 134. Oklahoma State, at 480 AA's, is a full 32.6% ahead of Iowa's 362. The longest active streak of consecutive years with at least one All-American belongs to Iowa at 52 years. The longest dry spell is Army at 15 years. They last had an AA in 2008 (Matt Kyler, 141). The Top 5 At each team's current pace (average of 2022 and 2023): Iowa will overtake Oklahoma State for the all time lead in 2057. Penn State will overtake Iowa in 2101. Cael Sanderson will be 121 years old and still wondering if Christian Pyle has a plan. AA's By Total Wrestlers with 5 AAs: 6 Wrestlers with 4 AAs: 171 Wrestlers with 3 AAs: 447 Wrestlers with 2 AAs: 852 Wrestlers with 1 AAs: 1,830 Probability of AA by Year We are used to 33 man brackets with 8 AA's per bracket (~24%), but it wasn't always that way. Using the rules that existed at the time and @Jason Bryant's participation stats by year, the most difficult year to AA was 1970 when only 15% of wrestlers earned AA status. Where the AA's Come From Not every AA was a top 8 seed to begin with. Below is the percentage of AA's by seed (left column) and broken into the seeding eras. What Is A Top 8 Seed Worth? Seven of the past nine years have been hard on Top 8 seeds. From 2014 to present, only 2017 and 2019 saw them perform above trend.

Wow…here’s a topic no one has though to bring up. Yes. Greco should be an Olympic sport. The popularity and/or success in the US is not the requisite. To have the reaction to say that after the Greco tournament we just witnessed, says more about the viewer than the sport.

amazing work as usual. thanks brother

One more I like:

You bring up a very good point, except for one small problem: Iran, Georgia, Azeribijan, Serbia, Hungary, Turkey, and Armenia all finished in the top ten in both styles. Iran was second in both. Azerbijan, the greco champ, finished 5th in FS. US, the champ in FS, finished...........22nd in greco. I realize the resources in these countries make the United States of America look like Somalia, but we might be able to find a dollar or two if we really wanted to put forth the effort, instead of just scrapping it because we aren't good.

Once again are you showing everyone how dumb you are for trying to make a correlation here, but also showing how big of an a-hole you are for using someone's cancer diagnosis as a way to try and "get back at them"....for doing what was the right thing to do...seriously....just cancel yourself!! F'ing idiot!!

Bet on the takedown color and/or number. Huge bonus if the takedown is on the Green 0. Think of the parlays, trifectas, and other possibilities. Now all fans who have a bet pending on the match can throw the brick to get a video review of the actual takedown location. Bet limit: $194.

Just because you can use a big word doesn't mean your advice is any better. Your argument reeks of someone who lets his emotions get in the way. All the more reason not to take your advice.

Repechage is nonsensical in the way it is practiced at the World Championships. We have multiple wrestlers in the repechage who have a shot at 3rd place who are 0-1 in the championship bracket. Meanwhile, there are wrestlers in the same bracket that are 3-1 with no chance to advance beyond 7th place. There has to be a better way. In large brackets like 65kg and 86kg there is no good reason to include 0-1 wrestlers in the repechage simply because they had the good fortune to lose in the first round to a finalist. And that is what it is, fortune. The point of these tournaments is about earning, not fortune.

The penalty is too harsh

Well, minus the “crime” part, but yes. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

lol. well played. however, i AM NOT asking for more oversite. i'm asking for personal accountability and accepting your clearly defined penalties. and btw - i promise you i'm about as big a Nelson Brands' fan that exists outside of the state of Iowa. i think a ton of him. but he did the crime. and i think he understands that too.

Depends on which three games. The university chose the first three because they are the most meaningless, warm up, non-conference games. They did not want to wait on the NCAA to decide, because by then the games might actually be meaningful. Agreed on point two. But also think the penalty chosen here is wrong. I am a god damn whiny republican. You are the one arguing for regulation and big goverment. I am arguing for personal rights. Don't tread on me.

Ban: posts jibberish compulsively Also Ban: 'you guys are obsessed with me'

I did not make the statement based on last years performance but more so Eggum's full body of work. The expectation for the Gophers should be to be a top 5 team semi-regularly. Year Coach Duals Big Ten NCAA 2000-01 J Robinson 19-1-0 1st 1st 2001-02 J Robinson 19-0-0 1st 1st 2002-03 J Robinson 17-5-0 1st 2nd 2003-04 J Robinson 12-6-0 2nd 8th 2004-05 J Robinson 9-9-0 2nd 5th 2005-06 J Robinson 20-1-0 1st 2nd 2006-07 J Robinson 20-1-0 1st 1st 2007-08 J Robinson 14-7-0 2nd 10th 2008-09 J Robinson 15-8-0 5th T-14th 2009-10 J Robinson 12-5-0 2nd 7th 2010-11 J Robinson 15-4-1 3rd 7th 2011-12 J Robinson 14-3-0 2nd 2nd 2012-13 J Robinson 16-2-0 T-2nd* 3rd 2013-14 J Robinson 14-1-0 3rd* 2nd 2014-15 J Robinson 12-3-0 3rd 8th 2015-16 J Robinson 10-8-0 9th 17th 2016-17 Brandon Eggum 7-5-0 5th 7th 2017-18 Brandon Eggum 10-8-0 7th 17th 2018-19 Brandon Eggum 14-3-0 4th 8th 2019-20 Brandon Eggum 9-8-0 8th Canceled/Covid 2020-21 Brandon Eggum 7-2-0 5th T-7th 2021-22 Brandon Eggum 4-6-0 6th 11th 2022-23 Brandon Eggum 12-3-0 6th 15th

Obviously a lot rides on a solid bounceback this year for the Pokes... but IMO he is not in a hot seat. Last two NCAAs have been rough but look at the context. 7 top ten finishes at NCAAs in the last ten years with multiple AAs and multiple NCs and a 7-year streak of winning the Big 12 Championship. Pulls in consistently high recruiting classes. Embraced NIL and the portal this offseason. Built a new locker room last year and is actively fundraising for future facility upgrades. Hired two new assistant coaches and brought several senior level athletes into the new RTC (Cowboy Wrestling Club) this last year. Changed up training routines. He has several years left regardless of NCAA results.

WKN - Great stuff (as most of yours is). HOWEVER, most of it is useless/wrong! The reason: NCAA DI wrestling didn't begin until 2009-2010.

that there is perrty

I am interested in the second derivative?

Ban would've replied with 3 paragraphs so clearly not the hijack. Looks like Vak went the summer school route.

I did it above based on two years (Iowa passes Oklahoma State in 2057, PSU passes Iowa in 2101). Based on five years PSU never overtakes Iowa. Iowa average 6.6 to PSU's 6.4 in the last five years. Oklahoma State only has 3.6 per year for the prior five.

there are clearly two distinct arguments being made in this thread and they're getting mashed together A) what the rules are B) what you think they should be (this is not directed at any one individual)

You aren't actually the turdbiscuit you portray yourself to be in this thread. Not nearly. You actually provide good feedback in a more or less non-biased nor in a trollinese sort of manner... typically. Why must you fly those colors here? Is it the ole 'What happens in Vegas' sort of Mantra? 'What happens in this thread...' It makes me sad. So now you say "Read it only the way I tell you to or you are wrong." You said it wrong to begin with, man. Give it a break. Either pay your debt or move on. The only reasonable conclusion through all of this is that you're a wiffle-waffling wine-ass that punches nuns and eats babies and shit. I don't want to believe that.

For the most-part, freestyle and Greco take place from March into July (end of high school folkstyle through Fargo). Summer Olympics reflect the correct period when that is the consideration for the Northern Hemisphere.

* we do all realize it is always winter in Michigan

Fetterman, whose net worth is somehow ~$2M while living off his daddy's income into his 40s and bought a ~240K condo from his sister for $1, is the leading critic. The party of hard work, right? The party of Maxine Waters, Nancy Pelosi, and Brandon Biden... The party that earns their money the ethical way, right?

Once again..."hey, this virus is bad to a specific demographic of people...and a comparatively a small percentage of the population, so let's mask our kids, shut down our schools, cancel once in a lifetime events, close businesses, don't let people say goodby to dying love ones, etc"....yep, that is the bass ackward way some of you think. Where was/is "trust the science"??

Yes...it is. The Summer Olympics, which is held one month earlier in August, is also summer now.

Kevin Jackson Iowa State

Pssst....there's wrestling around the world outside of the USA scholastic wrestling season. In some of those places.....it's a big sport, and they're pretty good.

I would say the seat is getting hot for Eggum at Minnesota.

ILLINIWrestlingBlog - That's freaking hilarious! Thank you.

Greco is the original from the first Olympiad. Freestyle didn't emerge until the 19th century.

Poll is reopened, I guess it had an expiration, let's get to 51 votes for guilty to shut this thread down.

Did they play Living La Vida Loca?

You can literally cheat. Steroids. Lie about it and not miss as much. on the other hand. Folks like to bring up this behavior (gambling) may cause you do do bad things down the road if you get stuck. So a situation where literal cheating is a lesser slap on the wrist so you can potentially stop potential cheating down the road is a more severe penalty. Does not seem to be fair. Yes It is a rule. I’ll bet they knew that as well. There should be a penalty. But it shouldn’t be this severe.

A little too early to be drinking, isn't it?

It’s been a minute, and a craaaaszy ass week of wrestling. So we kept it simple and let the youngin hone his skillz a little…

I've also started announcing it as Turkiye starting at the 2021 World Championships in Oslo. Czechia also gets the same treatment.

Here is my small collection, always looking for some that are reasonably priced.

That's actually not a bobblehead, it's a scale statue.

I'll take some of that action.

The Stazi had rules. They were crap too. Jaywalking is a crime. Does the NCAA make them sign a morality clause which can get them banned for that also? This is as outrageous as the Ohio State football "scandal" several years ago when young men traded their own property (college bowl game swag) for goods and services (tattoos, etc) they preferred to have. That was crap also.

Maybe he is fishing for an NIL deal from an online casino? I think Pete Rose does endorsements for casinos.

I'm more surprised that he has a father/uncle as a coach and was stupid enough to tweet that out, geez. Does this count as consenting to have his name released? Will we actually see a statement from Iowa naming him?

These are known rules/regs. Look at what the NCAA did to Dez Bryant and his team and he broke no rules. The NCAA has never been consistent.

Widely being considered the best player in the NFL right now, and an actual fan of watching wrestling. I know there was a past thread on here talking about how he stopped wrestling before high school so this may seem counterintuitive, but we need to accept that many guys that actually have NFL potential will stop wrestling to focus on football as they get older. However I believe he has credited wrestling for helping him develop some of the traits that make him so dominant. Anyone have a link to a recent interview/article where he does this? Was hoping to send to a friend :) But you can add him to the list of people in the NFL (Sean McDermott another) praising wrestling as helping develop elite football players. So even if wrestling loses some that truly have NFL or at least D1 football potential where you can’t really blame them, if more coaches and parents see the link between wrestling and football, wrestling could gain more younger participants.

Zane Richards 2023 57kg 2023 Senior Worlds 2011 58kg cadet worlds 2012 132 lb junior Fargo 2nd (lost two periods to zero to fellow 2023 world team member Zain Retherford 1-1, 1-1)

I’ve done a ton of these. I call them “Wroppelgangers” on my own page/site. Carson Kharkla (SP?) of Ohio State = Biff from Back To The Future. Tom/Terry= the T-1000 Terminator from Terminator 2! Austin Desanto of Iowa= Christopher Moltisanti from The Sopranos! Austin Moltisanto! Hayden Hidlay of NC State= Billy Idol Cael Sanderson = Sling Blade Aaron Brooks of PSU= Skee-Lo Brennan Swafford of Iowa = white Mike Tyson Dalton Doud of Ottumwa HS = Nick Suriano of many places. Cobe Siebrecht of Iowa = Jim Morrison of The Doors Danny Stephani (2X Sup HWT State Champ out of Iowa in the ‘80s) = Jack Black Nelson Brands of Iowa = 2023 NBA Slam Dunk Champ, Mac McClung of the 76ers! Kaleb Young of Iowa = The bad guy from the movie “The Mask.”