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The Pac-12 is starting it's rebuild by adding Boise State, Fresno State, San Diego State and Colorado State. Two of those schools have had wrestling programs, Boise State and Fresno State. It is unclear whether these schools will add wrestling. However, in order to be a viable conference they will need to align with their sports. The six teams will collaborate to target more teams to be added to the conference. On a related wrestling note, the teams in the Pac-12 for wrestling are committed to rebuilding the wrestling conference. There are teams interested. Stay tuned. https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/41226997/sources-boise-state-four-schools-set-join-pac-12

Looks like AJ may have gone zero days without an incident after all…

Trump asked Kamala if she was supportive of abortion in the 7th, 8th, or 9th months. The moderators did not allow her to answer claiming they needed to move on. If they had permitted her to answer, that would have been actual news. If she answers affirmatively, it goes against what the majority of Americans think should be allowed, and it confirms what the conservatives have been saying. If she answers negatively, she will alienate her base. That would have been news and the moderation team protected her from answering that question. mspart

he posts the source in his next tweet

Herd of liberal media following dem talking points?

Some of the worst crimes in the world are things that are legal

Really excited for this. Comes out in December. Seems like it challenges Foxcatcher for the biggest names in a wrestling movie. Robles is played by Jharell Jerome. He’s been in a lot of stuff, my favorite being Mr. Mercedes. J. Lo plays his mom, Bobby Canavale (who was also in Win/Win) plays his stepdad, Michael Pena his high school coach, and Don Cheadle plays then-ASU coach Shawn Charles.

Should be fun.

Greetings All, I figured doing a 'tiers' list for the current entries for WTT this coming weekend would be appropriate and fun. Keep in mind a few of the following: - These are MY tiers. I welcome you to challenge them, however I also challenge you to create your own. I would love to see that. I can also be swayed, if you make a compelling and logical argument. Calling me a big stupidhead might work as well. - These are as of approximately midday of 9/10/24. - As most of you know/remember, my tiers are that you can win or lose to someone in your tier or a tier directly adjacent. It would not be expected of you to defeat someone more than one tier above you or lose to someone more than one tier below you, unless injury, Pinfellery, or something along unexpected takes place. NO TIER simply means I either don't know enough about them or don't expect them to defeat anyone aside for NO TIER gents - all due respects. - Have fun! This one is non-negotiable. 61 KG Tier 1 Daton Fix, Oklahoma - COWBOY RTC/TMWC *Vitali Arujau, New York - SPARTAN COMBAT RTC/TMWC Tier 2 Seth Gross, Minnesota - Wisconsin Regional Training Center **Nahshon Garrett, Pennsylvania - LVWC/TMWC Austin DeSanto, Pennsylvania - HWC/TMWC Tier 3 Jax Forrest, Pennsylvania - Young Guns Nasir Bailey, Illinois - Arkansas Regional Training Center Marcus Blaze, Ohio - Perrysburg Wrestling Club Tier 4 Liam Cronin, Nebraska - Nebraska Wrestling Training Center Tier 5 Nico Provo, Connecticut - Connecticut Michael Tortorice, Illinois - Team Tortorice Wrestling Club NO TIER Devan Turner, Indiana - NYAC/Indiana RTC Kyle Burwick, North Dakota - Bison Wrestling Club *Arujau is sitting out the the Best of Three Finals **Garrett could allow anybody to put 15 points on him. 70 KG Tier 1 Jordan Oliver, North Carolina - NYAC James Green, Nebraska - Nebraska Wrestling Training Center Tier 2 Alec Pantaleo, Michigan - CKWC/TMWC Tier 3 Andrew Alirez, Colorado - NCWC/TMWC *Bryce Andonian, Ohio - SERTC/TMWC Tier 4 Yahya Thomas, Illinois - NJRTC/TMWC Kaleb Larkin, Arizona - Atreus Wrestling Club Evan Henderson, Pennsylvania - LVWC/TMWC Jarrett Jacques, Missouri - Tiger Style Wrestling Club Daniel Cardenas, Colorado - Bear Cave Wrestling Club PJ Duke, New York - KD Training Center **Will Lewan, Illinois - Cliff Keen Wrestling Club Tier 5 Ian Parker, Virginia - Cavalier Wrestling Club Ryan Jack, North Carolina - WOLFPACK WC/TMWC Jackson Arrington , Pennsylvania - WOLFPACK WC/TMWC Paniro Johnson, Pennsylvania - Cyclone Regional Training Center C-RTC Jakob Bergeland, Minnesota - Gopher Wrestling Club Tier 6 Jaden Abas, California - California Regional Training Center (CA RTC) Wyatt Sheets, Oklahoma - COWBOY RTC/TMWC NO TIER Vince Bouzakis, Pennsylvania - Wyoming Seminary Dayne Morton, Minnesota - West Coast Regional Training Center Isaiah Delgado, Utah - Brunson UVRTC *Andonian could pin anybody or get pinned by anybody **Lewan could defeat anybody 1-1 or lose to anybody 1-1 79 KG Tier 1 Jordan Burroughs, Pennsylvania - Pennsylvania RTC Tier 2 Alex Dieringer, Oklahoma - CKWC/TMWC Chance Marsteller, Pennsylvania - NJRTC/TMWC Tier 3 David Carr, Iowa - Cyclone RTC/TMWC Keegan O'Toole, Missouri - Tiger Style WC/ TMWC Tier 4 Evan Wick, California - SoCal RTC/TMWC Tier 5 *EMPTY Tier 6 Clay Lautt, North Carolina - Tar Heel Wrsetling Club Kennedy Monday, North Carolina - NJRTC/TMWC Joey Lavallee, Pennsylvania - Brunson UVRTC/TMWC **Hunter Garvin, Iowa - Iowa Joey Bianchi, Wisconsin - Arkansas Regional Training Center Tier 7 Matthew Bianchi, Wisconsin - Arkansas Regional Training Center Noah Mulvaney, Wisconsin - Buffalo Valley Regional Training Center Demetrius Romero, Idaho - Brunson UVRTC NO TIER Sam Beckett, Pennsylvania - Pennsylvania Andrew Dickson, North Carolina - George Mason University Justin Grant, Florida - McDoubles Wrestling *I know there is an EMPTY one there. That is deliberate. **Before anybody freaks out, Garvin is from Iowa City. Chill. 92 KG Tier 1 David Taylor, Oklahoma - COWBOY RTC (IF he shows, he is a lock) Tier 2 EMPTY Tier 3 Zahid Valencia, Arizona - Sunkist Kids Wrestling Club Tier 4 Trent Hidlay, North Carolina - WOLFPACK WC/ MWC Tier 5 Jonathan Aiello, Virginia - PENN RTC/TMWC Eric Schultz, Illinois - Nebraska Wrestling Training Center Michael Macchiavello, Pennsylvania - LVWC/TMWC Tier 6 *Aeoden Sinclair, Wisconsin - Tiger Style Wrestling Club Marcus Coleman, Iowa - Cyclone Regional Training Center C-RTC Tier 7 **Pat Downey, Maryland - NYAC Maximus Hale, Pennsylvania - Pennsylvania RTC Zane Mulder, Iowa - Burg Training Center Eze Chukwuezi, New York - Spartan Combat RTC Cameron Caffey, Illinois - Michigan Wrestling Club Nick Stemmet, Illinois - Illinois NO TIER Aidan Brenot, Tennessee - Bison Wrestling Club Luke Duthie, Pennsylvania - Pennsylvania *I am seriously worried that Sinclair will be undersized. I nearly put Coleman alone here. **Deep-Lunged-Downey could be as high as Tier 4. Natty-Ice-Downey could be as low as Tier 104. Which will show up? DISCUSS

Sorry, but I'll play the naysayer. Despite the fact that Robles wrestled with one leg, he had big time upper body advantage. Think about it: how much does a leg weigh? 35 pounds? So he had the upper body of a 170 pound man, which was very obvious. Yes he had moves, speed, and strength of a solid wrestler, but he also was hard to take down because he wrestled with one knee to the mat position which left his opponents not able to surprise Robles, . I think McD looked confuses as to where to attack and I think he suffered from what most Robles opponents did: "I don't want to take advantage of this guy, so I'll...........what?" Not taking anything away from Robles: he was an honest champ, but wrestling him was weird; his oponents looked confused.

There are lots of places where the cops won’t answer calls unless the crime is serious and in progress. To make a worthless report, you have to go to the station.

Garland was described as a ‘moderate’ when he was nominated for the Supreme Court. With moderates like him, we don’t need fascists.

Great idea. We need more coach wrestle offs.

i almost posted the same thing verbatim. probably jimmy. in retrospect i'm mad I didn't pick downey, he'll probably run into zahid a few times the night before the tournament.

15 minutes of my life I will never get back

DT is one of our all time greats. Even after some time off if he is in decent shape he will roll through this bracket.

Pro-choicer like Kamala Harris support leaving the decision about abortion between a woman and her doctor, without government involvement. Setting a time limit on abortion acknowledges that it becomes problematic at a certain point, and they mostly avoid discussing the specifics to maintain plausible deniability. Pro-lifers face a similar challenge when discussing whether ending a pregnancy from rape or incest constitutes murder. Many hold that belief but avoid stating it openly due to the controversy it sparks. It’s easier to compromise by allowing exceptions and setting a time limit. There should not be a Federal law on abortion. State law was the right call. ---- Kamala has taken numerous actions supporting bills, voted against bills, made statements, and refused to answer questions... that indicate she supports the mother's choice for abortion throughout the entire nine months of pregnancy.

Tell me more.

If you insert enough maybes, sometimes and could be, you will never lose. Follow me for more marriage advice.

In college he was as well. When he transitions to full-time coaching, he will be well sought-out.

The opposite. I think this is a great idea. He can coach and prep for Worlds and show his team how it's done on the biggest stage. I think this can be very motivating and potentially serve as an exercise in bringing the team together. I hope he shows up, wins trials, and beats Sadulaev for the gold at World's to close his competitive career. It's all upside. Book it.

Also a beloved training partner. Both Cox and Snyder have chosen him for Worlds/Olympics.

https://www.campusreform.org/article/prof-giordano-30-gen-z-sympathize-osama-bin-laden/26321

For whatever it's worth (tier jump?) Mike Macch seems to be a well liked dude as well

They won't.

And Harris is a gun-loving, oil drilling proponent.

I am not sure how they will seed gents who entered after 'pre' seeds were released. I do hope they do actually re-seed. If not, and you slide Haines in at 18, that would put him up against a large, multiple time NQ at 174lbs in Utah Valley's Romero then Burroughs. Romero was always as solid as they come, just had a lot of injury problems. If he is healthy and has been putting in the work, it could be a helluva welcome to 174lbs (79 KG). As far as Connor, we have already seen what he can do at 86 KG against most of this field. He did get the first takedown on Aaron Brooks, something that no other 197lber in the country was able to do throughout the entire NCAA season. OTT - David McFadden win via DEC 4 - 0 - Aaron Brooks loss via DEC 11 - 5 - Max Dean loss via TECH 12 - 2 US Open - Justin Rademacher won via DEC 5 - 0 Senior Nationals - Owen Webster won via DEC 7 - 1 - Max Dean won via DEC 9 - 6 - Mark Hall loss via DEC 9 - 2 - Evan Wick won via DEC 5 - 4 - Max Dean loss via DEC 8 - 4 Bill Farrell - Evan Wick won VIA Pinfellery - Alex Dieringer loss via DEC 9-3 - Mark Hall loss via DEC 4-1 I don't see him being able to beat a Hidlay or a Taylor, but there is no reason to believe that he won't be right there with the rest of them, if not beating them soundly. He is coming off a 'down' performance at U20s, but he has been at this weight and preparing for this weight for some time now.

Added the Mirasola brothers and Haines to the tier list. I know one of the Mirasola brothers entered then pulled, but I left him on there. Below is where I might put them both (for seeds). For clarity, it was Cole (the larger brother) is the one that was entered last night, then this morning is not entered.

The Peter Thiel controversy is just noise from the left when Nate Silver doesn't present data advantageous to Kamala. No different than the conspiracies Trump supporters claim when numbers aren't advantageous to him. Nate's out there taking fire from both sides. That's the greatest tell tale sign he's doing a wonderful job.

There is one very good reason to vote for Trump: so he can't run in 2028 or 2032. Think about it. That said I'm working on a deal to buy a lettuce farm its gonna be HUUGE the next 4 years.

@nhs67 add in the Mirasola brothers both at 92kg

I forgot how disgusting that series of events were

His house increased in value due to the current administration's impact—high inflation, low supply, and a surge of immigrants needing housing. It’s a case of haves and have-nots: homeowners can sell at record prices but face the same when buying. Those without homes see ownership becoming a distant dream due to rising costs. I have a personal home and rental home... and certainly like the value on paper for me while also understanding how frustrating it is for my young work colleagues. I don't want to think about the costs for my children.

Not cynical at all. My reasoning is based on data. Trump lost his debates to Clinton. He also lost to Biden. Won one election. Lost the other. People know who they are going to vote for at the start of the election cycle.

I don't recall anyone stating Trump is a good character person who never lies. MAGA here wants consistency and objectivity. You can't have the moderators fact check only one candidate, refer to true facts as lies, and then ignore lies from the other candidate. The moderators and their ilk are outrageous, egregious, appalling.

Trump is a bad man. Biden is a bad man. Harris is a bad woman. Quality of life was better (for me) under Trump than the previous four years. Quality of life is worse under Biden than it has been in my lifetime, and the future is setup to be even worse for my kids. Trump's policies are better for USA citizen families now and later.

FWIW I’m more annoyed by people complaining about Bassett than I am by Bassett himself. The only time I ever see Bassett stuff is on this forum.

Why not just ignore it? You see BB has trimmed the list, just skip by it. This sport does not get enough attention, and he is good enough to run this out until his senior year. I don't stay up with it, I will get cliff notes and pay attention when he is down to 12. But at the end of the day, I just don't care. I do hold on to the hope he ends up at Iowa St, and I do think they will be in the top 12, but he won't go there.

When I see large, sold-out crowds at Trump events, with even more people watching on screens outside, it reinforces my belief that he has strong support from everyday people. On the flip side, when I notice fewer people at opposition events, it influences my opinion that their support might be lacking. It’s like how Taylor Swift concerts sell out, so she must be good. Meanwhile, nobody goes to Oakland A's games, which makes me think they aren’t doing well.

If Gilman takes the mat, I think you either slot him in just behind Gross or just in front of Fix. He did just beat Fix, but it was at 57 KG. He lost to Gross at 61 KG, even if it was a bullshit of a RefJob - it was also 4 years ago. 1. Nahshon Garrett (LVWC/TMWC) 2. Thomas Gilman (Cowboy RTC) 3. Daton Fix (Cowboy RTC/TMWC) 4. Austin Desanto (HWC/TMWC) 5. Seth Gross (Wisconsin RTC) 6. Marcus Blaze (Perrysburg WC) 7. Jax Forrest (Young Guns) 8. Nasir Bailey (Arkansas RTC) 9. Liam Cronin (Nebraska WTC) 10. Devan Turner (NYAC/Indiana RTC) 11. Michael Tortorice (Team Tortorice WC) 12. Nico Provo (Connecticut) 13. Kyle Burwick (Bison WC) OR 1. Nahshon Garrett (LVWC/TMWC) 2. Daton Fix (Cowboy RTC/TMWC) 3. Austin Desanto (HWC/TMWC) 4. Seth Gross (Wisconsin RTC) 5. Thomas Gilman (Cowboy RTC) 6. Marcus Blaze (Perrysburg WC) 7. Jax Forrest (Young Guns) 8. Nasir Bailey (Arkansas RTC) 9. Liam Cronin (Nebraska WTC) 10. Devan Turner (NYAC/Indiana RTC) 11. Michael Tortorice (Team Tortorice WC) 12. Nico Provo (Connecticut) 13. Kyle Burwick (Bison WC)

If David Taylor shows up... we get Hidlay - Downey (potentially). 92 kg Sit-out to Championship Series: Zahid Valencia (Atreus WC) Pre-Seeds 1. David Taylor (Cowboy RTC) 2. Trent Hidlay (Wolfpack WC/TMWC) 3. Jonathan Aiello (Pennsylvania RTC/TMWC) 4. Michael Macchiavello (LVWC/TMWC) 5. Eric Schultz (Nebraska WTC) 6. Aeoden Sinclair (Tiger Style WC) 7. Patrick Downey (NYAC) 8. Marcus Coleman (Cyclone RTC) 9. Cameron Caffey (Michigan WC) 10. Maximus Hale (Pennsylvania RTC) 11. Nick Stemmet (Illinois) 12. Zane Mulder (Burg Training Center) 13. Luke Duthie (Pennsylvania) 14. Eze Chukwuezi (Spartan Combat RTC) 15. Aidan Brenot (Bison WC)

Preseeds are out, gents... https://www.themat.com/news/2024/september/10/men-s-freestyle-pre-seeds-released-for-senior-world-team-trials-in-omaha-this-weekend?utm_campaign=2024worldteamtrials&utm_medium=social&utm_source=x&utm_term=mensfreestylepreseedsforwtt&utm_content=article Direct copy/paste: 61 kg Men’s Freestyle Sit-out to Championship Series: Vito Arujau (Spartan Combat RTC/TMWC) Pre-Seeds 1. Nahshon Garrett (LVWC/TMWC) 2. Daton Fix (Cowboy RTC/TMWC) 3. Austin Desanto (HWC/TMWC) 4. Seth Gross (Wisconsin RTC) 5. Marcus Blaze (Perrysburg WC) 6. Jax Forrest (Young Guns) 7. Nasir Bailey (Arkansas RTC) 8. Liam Cronin (Nebraska WTC) 9. Devan Turner (NYAC/Indiana RTC) 10. Michael Tortorice (Team Tortorice WC) 11. Nico Provo (Connecticut) 12. Kyle Burwick (Bison WC) 70 kg Men’s Freestyle Pre-Seeds 1. Alec Pantaleo (CKWC/TMWC) 2. James Green (Nebraska WTC) 3. Jordan Oliver (NYAC) 4. PJ Duke (KD Training Center) 5. Jarrett Jacques (Tiger Style WC) 6. Evan Henderson (LVWC/TMWC) 7. Bryce Andonian (SERTC/TMWC) 8. Paniro Johnson (Cyclone RTC) 9. Yahya Thomas (NJRTC/TMWC) 10. Will Lewan (Cliff Keen WC) 11. Jakob Bergeland (Gopher WC) 12. Kaleb Larkin (Atreus WC) 13. Ian Parker (Cavalier WC) 14. Daniel Cardenas (Bear Cave WC) 15. Vince Bouzakis (Wyoming Seminary) 16. Wyatt Sheets (Cowboy RTC/TMWC) 17. Jaden Abas (California RTC) 18. Ryan Jack (Wolfpack WC/TMWC) 19. Jackson Arrington (Wolfpack WC/TMWC) 20. Dayne Morton (West Coast RTC) 21. Isaiah Delgado (Brunson UVRTC) 79 kg Men’s Freestyle Pre-Seeds 1. Chance Marsteller (NJRTC/TMWC) 2. Jordan Burroughs (Pennsylvania RTC) 3. Alex Dieringer (CKWC/TMWC) 4. Keegan O’Toole (Tiger Style WC/TMWC) 5. David Carr (Cyclone RTC/TMWC) 6. Evan Wick (SoCal RTC/TMWC) 7. Hunter Garvin (Iowa) 8. Joey Lavallee (Brunson UVRTC/TMWC) 9. Joey Bianchi (Arkansas RTC) 10. Kennedy Monday (NJRTC/TMWC) 11. Matthew Bianchi (Arkansas RTC) 12. Andrew Dickson (George Mason Univ.) 13. Noah Mulvaney (Buffalo Valley RTC) 14. Sam Beckett (Pennsylvania) 15. Demetrius Romero (Brunson UVRTC) 16. Clay Lautt (Tarheel WC) 17. Justin Grant (McDoubles Wrestling) 92 kg Sit-out to Championship Series: Zahid Valencia (Atreus WC) Pre-Seeds 1. Trent Hidlay (Wolfpack WC/TMWC) 2. Jonathan Aiello (Pennsylvania RTC/TMWC) 3. Michael Macchiavello (LVWC/TMWC) 4. Eric Schultz (Nebraska WTC) 5. Aeoden Sinclair (Tiger Style WC) 6. Patrick Downey (NYAC) 7. Marcus Coleman (Cyclone RTC) 8. Cameron Caffey (Michigan WC) 9. Maximus Hale (Pennsylvania RTC) 10. Nick Stemmet (Illinois) 11. Zane Mulder (Burg Training Center) 12. Luke Duthie (Pennsylvania) 13. Eze Chukwuezi (Spartan Combat RTC) 14. Aidan Brenot (Bison WC)

@LJBis a good dude.

In Seattle they will list this as a COVID death and back date it to Trump's presidency.

Unless you’re an 80 year old woman. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/she-had-a-fire-in-her-80-year-old-grandmother-killed-while-defending-dogs-in-seattle-carjacking/ar-AA1pgho1