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Iowa is a good room to make the right improvements. As much as they get shit on they are 2nd only to Penn State the last 15 years.

Whatever you think of Askren, he's not entirely wrong here, and if anything may be understating the severity of Iowa's missteps here. A few related reasons: 1. They will lose top high school recruits who view Iowa as overly disloyal, as Iowa is the first to hit "zero loyalty" threshold. Yes, there's been "recruiting over" before, but until now, there's always been a sense that, for wresters of a certain seniority and skill level, the coaching staff will be like "naw, I'm good" when transfers come knocking or donors are asking coaches on encrypted Telegram threads who to go after. Glazier/Buchanan changes all that. The idea that a school would go out on the open market to try to financially lure in someone to displace a 5th year senior who had only 1 loss going into B1Gs is stunning. It means no one is safe. High school recruits will see this and know, for a fact, that unless you just won a national title, Iowa is going to be trying, every year, to pull in someone better than you. For the most part, other schools have used the portal to fill holes, but only Iowa has sought to use it to upgrade everywhere. As long as other top schools don't follow suit to the same extreme extent, that's going to push recruits away from Iowa, and be a huge recruiting advantage for their competition. 2. This turn toward transfers and away from loyalty is especially harmful to Iowa, which historically has been so reliant on their branding to lure in recruits. Come to Iowa for the "Iowa style," Iowa once said. "Oh that Johnny, he really wrestles the Iowa Style, he'd be great for them," wrestlers hear. But not anymore. They can't say that's their brand when they just have a hodge-podge of guys from different programs who each wrestler their own pre-developed style, most of which don't really mesh with Iowa in any particular way. Kids might go to Iowa because they fare well, but their branding, already eroding, is down the tube. They're losing their cache and sales pitch. 3. Ben was right to cite the loss of culture, too. It's the difference between a bunch of close-knit guys who came up from the farm system, and a bunch of guys who came on as free agents. They just aren't going to be that tight, with no sense of solidarity or brotherhood. Recruits doing their on-campus visits won't see the camaraderie, and existing guys will find easier to leave without feeling bad or nostalgic. (As is clearly the case with 5 leaving in 3 days.) I suspect the guys that remain will be that much harder to coach, too, as these aren't guys who have "bought in" on the Iowa way or the Tom/Terry coaching style. They are guys who are bought and paid for, and have no reason to care much about what Tom/Terry have to say. They'll yammer on about what it means to put on a black and gold singlet, and these guys will just laugh. 4. Iowa's spending is also too high on transfers relative to existing athletes. It isn't sustainable. I have no idea if the money being speculated on Twitter is accurate (e.g. $500K each for Parco, Teemer, Buchanan), but as some have pointed out, now guys like Ayala are going to look since they're being paid a fraction of that. That means you aren't just losing the guys at the weights where you recruited over them, you're also losing top guys at other weights who feel they aren't being treated fairly. 5. Admittedly, none of points 1-4 really matter if they have the bankroll to turn Iowa into the New York Yankees every season, buying a near-full roster every year. But the money won't be there forever. As I understand it, it's pretty much coming from one guy, and he's a pretty shady dude as it is. What happens when his money runs out or he crosses one too many lines, whether in recruiting or in any other seedy dealings? Iowa isn't nearly as flush with alumni money as many other schools. When that money dries up, then what? They'll need to rebuild their brand, their culture, the illusion of loyalty all over again, from scratch. Have fun with that. This whole thing reminds me of the Ferrari fiasco from last year: sacrificing integrity on the altar of winning, compromising whatever principles are needed to get ahead. At least AJ saved them before that went too far. But I don't think there's any saving Iowa from themselves this time.

Hey dum dum...you lecture people on admitting they don't get it... yet...YOU don't get it. It's okay...you aren't as smart as you think you are. YOU need to challenge your ideas and get away from Collage campus's indoctrination and experience real life...most people aren't victims, and no one is trying to oppress anyone...once you realize that your life will be much more happy

Correct, but you said Glazier is an example of “no one is safe.” No one is safe at PSU either

Perhaps. I’m not sure. I don’t recall you siding with “illegal immigration is wrong”…. Once or ever. During this entire 48 month saga where the dems opened the boarder and let millions in. Just perhaps. You cleverly said any federal offense should be charged .. sort of implying Trump should be charged with taking a pic with the gold star families. Perhaps that’s what he means. I dunno. But perhaps. perhaps one is worse long term for this country. I’ll let you decide.

It's probably a bit of both. The US is ahead of just about everyone else in women's athletics simply because there have been more opportunities for longer. We also do have a pretty robust youth system, as imperfect as it is. Donovan does have a point, though he is painting with a broad brush. I basically live in the (girls) club soccer world these days and there certainly are a number of soccer clubs who basically sell the idea of winning to parents. Those clubs typically teach their kids at a young age how to "win" the game. For those familiar with soccer, that basically means they teach their players how to sit in a low block, be physical, and send long balls to the other side. It's tough for anyone to score against a low block, much less 8-9-10 year-olds or any youth player. So the club "wins" the game or the tournament. The kids get a medal. The parents get to post on social media about how great their kid is....but those kids don't learn how to play. There are clubs who approach things differently, but they are definitely in the minority. They'll focus on developing technical ability at a young age and implement tactics, formation, etc., as the players get older and more physically mature. You might see these teams lose a bunch in the younger years, but the tide starts to switch at older age groups because they've learned how to play and can think about the game and not simply how to pass from A-to-B-to-C. They teach technique, concepts, and ideas to the young kids and it tends to pay off later. The other aspect of all of this is financial. It's expensive to play in these clubs, regardless of which version you find yourself in. But in my experience and to my knowledge, the cost aspect doesn't exclude as many kids as some want you to believe. There are plenty of scholarship/funding sources or flat-our fee waivers for players who otherwise wouldn't be able to afford to play at a club. There are scouts for the clubs who recruit promising players. It's certainly not a perfect structure for men's or women's soccer, but changing the most prevalent approach is a pretty tall task because "winning" right now is very appealing and patience, as virtuous as it is, seems to be in short supply. Donovan's point about the rate of development for young US players as a whole is well made. I don't think there's much argument there. There's a lot to unpack, but that's a Reader's Digest version from my point of view.

you dont think that is who the video was aimed at? americans? if not.. why was so much imagery from the USA and it's border problem. btw, i applied it to other nations... which you seem to have forgotten about... and how they handle the same situation and now.. how they are paying for NOT handling said situation

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I was waiting for this to be officially announced. All good gets for my jackrabbits. I expect Cobe, Drake and Glazier to start. Cade will throw his hat in the ring at 149 but I am not sure if he will win the spot. Certainly won't be favored to win that spot if Alek Martin goes (which is still up in the air as far as I know).

When does propaganda, malinformation, disinformation, and censorship equate to rigging and interference? These actions were deliberately planned, coordinated, and impactful. A small true sampling: Hunter Biden laptop, Ukraine Biden money, Trump Fine People hoax, google algos, social media censorship, overwhelming pro Biden spin compared to anti Trump spin... One doesn't need to prove the voting shenanigans (fraud, etc.) to understand...

Please see my above post, that I will also quote for you.

It needs a little more than a "tweak."

I admittedly only watched Belton against Bartlett and at NCAA's but it seemed like closing matches was an issue for him. I can't really imagine being sucked out is going to help with that but maybe the size advantage will allow him to manage the match better.

Kid wrestles with some fire. Same with Cortez. Both had tough finals matches but did their country proud.

He will be BIG at 165. Probably needs to make 165 to be a starter with Sax transferring in. I have always though Picklo was going to make the jump to be an AA contender (probably tainted because I watched him beat Devos in Brookings). Perhaps this will be the year.

I haven't heard anything personally, but just saw that WS has penciled him into the slot.

Whatever you do, don't say his dad's name 3 times

Who hasn't gone into Applebee's and thought it said all yous can eat?

Politicians are to be believed. https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTNo35pvt/ tried to type the quotes up…. As per usually I couldn’t find a similar vid on YouTube. Gavin Quotes in this vid… regarding homelessness: 2008: What we call our 10 year plan to end chronic homelessness in San Francisco. 2010: How are you going to solve homelessness as the new mayor? And I say what are you going to do? 2012 We are going to sign a housing first model to provide direct access to housing for the homeless. 2015: Shelter solves sleep. Housing with wrap around and support services solves homelessness. 2016: Homelessness can absolutely be solved. 2018: I laid out a detailed homelessness strategy. There has been no intentionality on homelessness in this state for decades, it has not been a focus. 2019: I don’t think we can solve homelessness; I know we can solve homelessness. 2020: We will reduce street homelessness quickly and humanely through emergency acts. 2021: the highest investment the state has made is $1b in homelessness. We are poised to pass a budget in the next few hours that will provide $12b of investments. 2022: I can literally quantify, 58000 people that we got off the streets last year, and none of you would believe it. 2023 This state has not made progress in the last 2 decades as it relates to homelessness. 2024: we are not interested in funding failure. We are not interested in failing more efficiently, when it comes to the issue of homelessness and the crisis in the street.

Free speech has to stop! Thats a great campaign slogan.

"In America’s early days, the law was fairly simple. The Constitution specifies just three federal crimes: piracy, counterfeiting and treason." But now . . . Here are some federal crimes that are probably more enforced than our border and the pursuit of illegal aliens: Use a Falconry Bird in a Movie That Isn’t About Falconry Sell Runny Ketchup Leave the Country with Too Many Nickels in Your Pockets Sell Wine With a Label that Insults the Competition Write a Check for Less Than $1 Make an Unreasonable Gesture to a Passing Horse Sell Oversized or Undersized Noodles Try to Make it Rain With Lasers Without Telling the Government First Sell Swiss Cheese Without Holes Have Disruptively Bad Hygiene in the Library of Congress Unsanctioned llama contact Margarine pat shape in restaurants https://nypost.com/2019/06/18/here-are-some-of-the-goofiest-federal-laws-still-on-the-books/ https://www.amazon.com/How-Become-Federal-Criminal-Illustrated/dp/1982112514?tag=nypost-20&asc_refurl=https%3A%2F%2Fnypost.com%2F2019%2F06%2F18%2Fhere-are-some-of-the-goofiest-federal-laws-still-on-the-books%2F&asc_source=web&ascsubtag=srctok-b29614a0d1ac084d&btn_ref=srctok-b29614a0d1ac084d

This. I was really bummed that we lost the old forum, i don't post much, but i read almost daily. I am annoyed with the ads, but i'll 100% deal with it as nobody needed to step up and save this, they deserve a lot of credit, and we should all have a pretty high threshold for dealing with/ignoring ads in 2024.

I too am concerned at the impact the carousel of transfers might have on team culture. However, I have to disagree that the difference between Glazier and Buchanan is negligible. The Glaze scored 1.5 points last year. I'm sad to see him go and wish him well but all objective measures point to his replacement being a notable upgrade. Doesn't mean I have to be ecstatic about it and doesn't change the fact that I think an overreliance on transfers is a potentially disquieting trend. Everything I've heard indicates that Ayala is well taken care of and is happy with where he is at. I haven't heard anyone say Angelo is having anything other than a pretty good time.

How is Mosha and Josh still there?

"they would literally kill him. Not a joke." Good ole Scranton Joe clarifying that it is not a joke to kill people.

It's going to take me a while to get used to the names in the OSUe lineup.

... the stallfest..,.

We can only hope.

Can anyone enter? No BJJ guys yet?

I’m sure @LJB will come back once Otto starts seeing some college action

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BAC, my friend, this is a lot of sturm and drang over nothing. I'll go point by point. 1. Most of this is fiction you have written in your head. Also, Penn State, the current gold standard, quite literally took Max Dean when they had an actual AA/high end recruit in Beard. Neither Siebrecht nor Glazier were high end recruits, and they both got opportunities. Siebrecht went 14-8 and then 1-2 at NCAAs. Then he got suspended for a year (unfairly, IMO, but still). His best win is his OT win over Will Lewan, who goes to OT with everybody. Glazier was 20-4 at a relatively weak weight, but his best wins were over non-AAs SIlas Allred and Jaxon Smith. Almost nobody has a guaranteed spot at a high end D1 school, certainly not those resumes. Tough wrestlers that vastly improved during their time, which is a testament to the coaching staff and the athletes own hard work, but this isn't "disloyalty." Neither of these guys was a high AA threat based on everything we've seen, and Iowa got two title threats in their stead. All the other athletes that left were depth guys. Pretty sure that Penn State had similar guys to them when they brought in Messenbrink, Nagao, Truax, etc. OKlahoma State the same by bringing in Hendrickson and Hamiti. 2. This is, again, just made up. Hell, Cobe Siebrecht, one of the leaving wrestlers, hardly wrestled a traditional "Iowa style." Iowa has already become a school with more varied styles on the roster than they get credit for. Kids are going to come to the school if the athletes succeed, not because Iowa just "stayed loyal" to some low AA threat wrestlers. Iowa's goal is to close the gap with Penn State at 2025 NCAAs, and they did that. 3. Again, this is just made up. You have no idea what the internal dynamics of the team is. Gabe Arnold's dad just posted a picture with a bunch of the team, and I saw at least Parco there. Maybe everybody hates Glazier (I don't think this, but you also have no idea)? Maybe the Siebrecht's only hang out with each other? Or maybe the kids know that athletes transfer, and they don't get too fussed one way or the other, and wish the departing teammates well but root for the new teammates. 4. Again, this is all complete supposition. You admit you have no idea how much anybody is actually getting, then you just assume that Ayala is getting a fraction of that. This is all basically fanfic. 5. Comparing this to the Ferrari thing is insane. Ferrari was a timebomb (and I said so at the time) and they never should have brought him in. There's NOTHING like that about Buchanan or Teemer, and Iowa would have been stupid to not bring them just to make sure that Zach Glazier and Cobe Siebrecht stayed happy. Seriously, on what planet should guys at that level just be treated as if they were set it and forget it starters? I know you're not a Brands fan. I get it. I was one of the people advocating for bringing Taylor in this year. But this was absolutely the right thing for them to do, bringing in Teemer, Buchanan, and Parco. It would have been malpractice not to. I'm not super happy, but this was also said prior to Iowa winning the team title three years ago.

I thought they had to at least pursue an education but I'm hearing they can take a typing course and still post. Is that right?

I’m not in college any longer so this may or may not apply. Do you want to know how to lose quickly? I told my wife she is a little loose compared to her younger days….. still fine but a little loose. I don’t know where she went but I somehow took a long nap and there is a huge bruise and lump on the side of my head. I also can’t find my reading glasses.

Ahahahahaha I thought it was a great read.

He should be a luchador. El Gebel Esteveson!

I use my phone and the site is a hot mess now with pop ups. Please fix before the season starts, I beg you.

we wir ther win no won else wantd him

We can hope he can as hope can give us what we hope for and can be the way we can become unbound by what has been at least we can hope it will be.

all trump has to do is shut his mouth and let her word salad spoil all over her can he do it?

I've always said don't go to Iowa, glad Ben finally agrees.

suspending the constitution? how so? i know the dems want to get rid of the 1A and 2A as far as screaming how bad the country is... that's dems for the most part. 'the usa is racist, blah blah blah. Im gonna move it trump is elected etc MOVE. of course they didn't. but if you look, there are some horrible things going on... mostly ... b/c of their policies this is where make america great AGAIN comes from...

I have a neighbor I call "Bad Bob"!!! Could write a book on this dude....not a good person inside or out.

What country is he transferring to?

I guess for the money we pay for this forum we should expect better. Oh, wait........

Great post. I agree with a lot of it. Thank you. Your second paragraph tho. That is the vision I think. Seeing things from another's perspective. Challenging those that try to portray the Manly Man that we now see as toxic to society. Has it and will it continue to ruffle feathers? Sure. Making meaningful change across the whole spectrum will be difficult and there will be push back. Especially from those who can make a living pushing back. Once that opportunity is done you'll see things happen a lot faster and for the better, I feel. Will it ever go away? No. There will always be some that find justification/validation doing societally unhelpful ways. Sometimes those are good. They challenge conceptions that have outgrown their usefulness and lead to change and others just rage at the dying of the light. I agree, more constructive.

It's even worse than that. They only entered 9 wrestlers at PAC-12s last year. 8 of them went 0-3 finishing in 6th place. Despite the name there are only 6 teams in the PAC-12 and they had 5th place matches at the tournament. So 8 of their 9 wrestlers were dead last. The last guy you correctly pointed out was 1-2. He finished 5th.

People still believing the 2020 election was stolen are cut from a similar cloth as 9/11 or moon landing conspiracy theorists.