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biden and harris were both invited by the families only trump went sorry.

Kamelamadingdong has scrubbed all mentions of her working at McDonalds. One fellow described it as “stolen valor with cheeseburgers.”

@MPhillipsMaybe you should say it one more time, for those in the back.

no one is reading all that.

While you're at it, can we get rid of the stupid bob dole face as the default reaction? It was funny for about 5 seconds but time to move back to the standard thumbs-up.

Junior World Finals. If you don’t know, you better get familiar.

No transfers.... just HS recruiting... how is your class looking? Obviously kids could still flip if they aren't signed and not all the kids are committed yet. I am pretty happy with what Oregon State has been doing. The 2025 class is shaping up pretty well IMO. Khale McDonnell - CA - State placer - currently ranked #3 in CA at 215 Koy Davidson - Iowa - Knocked off 3x defending champ #10 Carter Freeman to win a state title last year. Manuel Saldate - #17 - 3x NV state champ, Fargo AA, Slam Academy kid with Chase Pami I believe Jeff Lopez - CA state runner up - knocked off Cortez in the semis last season. Took a break from wrestling for a couple years and came back with a bang. He has been ranked previously. Adrien Reyes - #11 CA 2x state placer, Fargo champ, #11 at 175 Not a 2025 guy, but we added a very late 2024 in Moses Mirabal - CA state champ who was originally committed to Brown.

otto black sounds like dickens character

BAC, my friend, this is a lot of sturm and drang over nothing. I'll go point by point. 1. Most of this is fiction you have written in your head. Also, Penn State, the current gold standard, quite literally took Max Dean when they had an actual AA/high end recruit in Beard. Neither Siebrecht nor Glazier were high end recruits, and they both got opportunities. Siebrecht went 14-8 and then 1-2 at NCAAs. Then he got suspended for a year (unfairly, IMO, but still). His best win is his OT win over Will Lewan, who goes to OT with everybody. Glazier was 20-4 at a relatively weak weight, but his best wins were over non-AAs SIlas Allred and Jaxon Smith. Almost nobody has a guaranteed spot at a high end D1 school, certainly not those resumes. Tough wrestlers that vastly improved during their time, which is a testament to the coaching staff and the athletes own hard work, but this isn't "disloyalty." Neither of these guys was a high AA threat based on everything we've seen, and Iowa got two title threats in their stead. All the other athletes that left were depth guys. Pretty sure that Penn State had similar guys to them when they brought in Messenbrink, Nagao, Truax, etc. OKlahoma State the same by bringing in Hendrickson and Hamiti. 2. This is, again, just made up. Hell, Cobe Siebrecht, one of the leaving wrestlers, hardly wrestled a traditional "Iowa style." Iowa has already become a school with more varied styles on the roster than they get credit for. Kids are going to come to the school if the athletes succeed, not because Iowa just "stayed loyal" to some low AA threat wrestlers. Iowa's goal is to close the gap with Penn State at 2025 NCAAs, and they did that. 3. Again, this is just made up. You have no idea what the internal dynamics of the team is. Gabe Arnold's dad just posted a picture with a bunch of the team, and I saw at least Parco there. Maybe everybody hates Glazier (I don't think this, but you also have no idea)? Maybe the Siebrecht's only hang out with each other? Or maybe the kids know that athletes transfer, and they don't get too fussed one way or the other, and wish the departing teammates well but root for the new teammates. 4. Again, this is all complete supposition. You admit you have no idea how much anybody is actually getting, then you just assume that Ayala is getting a fraction of that. This is all basically fanfic. 5. Comparing this to the Ferrari thing is insane. Ferrari was a timebomb (and I said so at the time) and they never should have brought him in. There's NOTHING like that about Buchanan or Teemer, and Iowa would have been stupid to not bring them just to make sure that Zach Glazier and Cobe Siebrecht stayed happy. Seriously, on what planet should guys at that level just be treated as if they were set it and forget it starters? I know you're not a Brands fan. I get it. I was one of the people advocating for bringing Taylor in this year. But this was absolutely the right thing for them to do, bringing in Teemer, Buchanan, and Parco. It would have been malpractice not to. I'm not super happy, but this was also said prior to Iowa winning the team title three years ago.

Iowa is a good room to make the right improvements. As much as they get shit on they are 2nd only to Penn State the last 15 years.

He's also enrolled at Iowa...

Rules for theeeeee not for meeeee

Sorry that comment wasn’t related to the video, just something I thought of that could be some fun drama. Wrestlestat has him at 184

The vacationer in command. It’s still very mind boggling. You couldn’t have told me in let’s say grammar school. That the sitting pres is legit senile and not remotely running the country. That no one seems to care or notice or comment on this. That a political party is running someone who didn’t receive a delegate / vote in several presidential elections in a row…. That the opponent is one of the most polarizing politicians in the history of the country. For a second time that this site has more ads than a sketchy porn site. Not the upscale ones…. The ones your afraid to click. I’m talking to you xHamster. it’s like we’re in the matrix or something.

Biden and Kamala are in the situation room for the photo op. Kamala kicked things off yesterday with a lesson on Israel being a small country in the Middle East next to some bigger countries…. I’m not sure her opening remarks have ended yet.

Talk gruffly and carry a feather duster.

is that anything like crossing the border illegally? how do you feel about that federal law?

So it seems the Greenies and the Greenies are in a fight. EVs MANDATED!!!! Mining of the necessary materials to meet the mandate . . . BANNED!!!! Greenie solution? Eat bugs and walk. Now shut up and be thankful they are here to do all the thinking for you. Snail Darters unite!

Blackfoot has a history of producing some tough kids, in boxing, wrestling, and rodeo.

I think the allegations involved how the rest of the women were treated/coached. Certainly some conflict of interests. It is very possible it went deeper than just a consensual relationship with one woman. Some crazy stuff hinted at as the reason for the Iowa exit. Perry obviously knows wrestling. He has been very successful at all of his stops. Why does it appear that he's no longer coaching? You think that just one consensual relationship would do that?

I have a pair. I won't lie. Lol

They're just funny.

Whatever you think of Askren, he's not entirely wrong here, and if anything may be understating the severity of Iowa's missteps here. A few related reasons: 1. They will lose top high school recruits who view Iowa as overly disloyal, as Iowa is the first to hit "zero loyalty" threshold. Yes, there's been "recruiting over" before, but until now, there's always been a sense that, for wresters of a certain seniority and skill level, the coaching staff will be like "naw, I'm good" when transfers come knocking or donors are asking coaches on encrypted Telegram threads who to go after. Glazier/Buchanan changes all that. The idea that a school would go out on the open market to try to financially lure in someone to displace a 5th year senior who had only 1 loss going into B1Gs is stunning. It means no one is safe. High school recruits will see this and know, for a fact, that unless you just won a national title, Iowa is going to be trying, every year, to pull in someone better than you. For the most part, other schools have used the portal to fill holes, but only Iowa has sought to use it to upgrade everywhere. As long as other top schools don't follow suit to the same extreme extent, that's going to push recruits away from Iowa, and be a huge recruiting advantage for their competition. 2. This turn toward transfers and away from loyalty is especially harmful to Iowa, which historically has been so reliant on their branding to lure in recruits. Come to Iowa for the "Iowa style," Iowa once said. "Oh that Johnny, he really wrestles the Iowa Style, he'd be great for them," wrestlers hear. But not anymore. They can't say that's their brand when they just have a hodge-podge of guys from different programs who each wrestler their own pre-developed style, most of which don't really mesh with Iowa in any particular way. Kids might go to Iowa because they fare well, but their branding, already eroding, is down the tube. They're losing their cache and sales pitch. 3. Ben was right to cite the loss of culture, too. It's the difference between a bunch of close-knit guys who came up from the farm system, and a bunch of guys who came on as free agents. They just aren't going to be that tight, with no sense of solidarity or brotherhood. Recruits doing their on-campus visits won't see the camaraderie, and existing guys will find easier to leave without feeling bad or nostalgic. (As is clearly the case with 5 leaving in 3 days.) I suspect the guys that remain will be that much harder to coach, too, as these aren't guys who have "bought in" on the Iowa way or the Tom/Terry coaching style. They are guys who are bought and paid for, and have no reason to care much about what Tom/Terry have to say. They'll yammer on about what it means to put on a black and gold singlet, and these guys will just laugh. 4. Iowa's spending is also too high on transfers relative to existing athletes. It isn't sustainable. I have no idea if the money being speculated on Twitter is accurate (e.g. $500K each for Parco, Teemer, Buchanan), but as some have pointed out, now guys like Ayala are going to look since they're being paid a fraction of that. That means you aren't just losing the guys at the weights where you recruited over them, you're also losing top guys at other weights who feel they aren't being treated fairly. 5. Admittedly, none of points 1-4 really matter if they have the bankroll to turn Iowa into the New York Yankees every season, buying a near-full roster every year. But the money won't be there forever. As I understand it, it's pretty much coming from one guy, and he's a pretty shady dude as it is. What happens when his money runs out or he crosses one too many lines, whether in recruiting or in any other seedy dealings? Iowa isn't nearly as flush with alumni money as many other schools. When that money dries up, then what? They'll need to rebuild their brand, their culture, the illusion of loyalty all over again, from scratch. Have fun with that. This whole thing reminds me of the Ferrari fiasco from last year: sacrificing integrity on the altar of winning, compromising whatever principles are needed to get ahead. At least AJ saved them before that went too far. But I don't think there's any saving Iowa from themselves this time.

Bedlam could look like this: 125: Troy Sprately vs Beric Jordan 133: Reece Wittcraft vs Cleveland Belton 141: Cael Hughes vs Mosha Schwartz 149: Tagen Jamison vs Willie McDougald 157: Teague Travis vs John Wiley 165: Cam Amine vs Tate Picklo 174: Dean Hamiti vs Gaven Sax 184: Dustin Plott vs Deanthony Parker 197: Luke Surber vs Bradley Hill 285: Wyatt Hendrickson vs Josh Heindselman

Cleveland Belton making the cut to 133 for Oklahoma

Even in the NIL world, you have to be AA level talent and actually accomplish it to get the bold part. Not everyone is and its doubtful the ~10 kids he called out by name are all of that level. He isn't giving practical advise, he is taking a blanket stance that doesn't necessarily apply to all kids. Sure if you have the chance to earn half a mil, kids should take it, but lets not be naive enough to claim that any kid that steps on a mat has the opportunity to earn a half a mil before they graduate. About 1% of HS wrestlers compete in D1, less than that will start and even less will AA. We can teach kids to be smart entrepreneurs and good at statistics too. Every kid that gets held back and doesn't make that NIL $ is now a year later in the earning potential.

He should be a luchador. El Gebel Esteveson!

1 - holding back has been very popular for good reason before NIL. It allows for better physical and mental development-please don’t try to argue against this. 2-in the NIL era, there are far more “potential rewards” for wrestlers than there have ever been, so giving your athlete the best chance often means, great coaching, great academics and holding back for max preparation for college. 3-I have asked my wrestling kids if they wanted to hold back and the conversation maybe lasted 1 minute. It was a quick no and we moved on. Oldest started high school weighing 103 on a full feed and did just fine. Youngest is tracking the same and we are not holding back. I have several friends that held their kids back. It was hard during the holdback year, then good for 2-3 years and then possibly a mistake for the senior year because their kids were top 5 in the country and were basically untouchable without going to national events. 4-Caring parents often look out for the best interests of their kids and should be left to make decisions that are in their best judgment. Rules should be in place to protect the kids. I would bet that there are a lot of holdbacks in football because the physical maturity that is needed in such a punishing contact sport. 5-maybe the question back to the coach is, why can’t you prepare my kid without being held back 6-coach is a good guy and just telling it like it is!

Mauger is an Idaho kid - I hope he does well. Good kid and a good family.

15 coulda been edited down to 3?

I agree, this is nothing new and it's not my place to decide what is or isn't the best thing for a kid to do. I've only commented here because it's his philosophy and he's commented on it many times before the video was posted. It's not a joke. It wasn't meant to be funny. And the folks saying that it is...are incorrect. Brakan's stance on this is well known.

It's his philosophy and he's made it known before. He's posted as much in other forums. This is a fact, not a guess nor is it just my thought or opinion.

He tells all his guys to get held back. There are other forum post' I've read, just not here...

Columbus's club...

my bad I'm tweaking

And the hoaxing just keeps on rolling along . . . Funding Failure: Carbon Capture and Fossil Hydrogen Subsidies Exposed https://priceofoil.org/2024/08/27/funding-failure-carbon-capture-and-fossil-hydrogen-subsidies-exposed/ Even leftie "news" outlets are starting to catch on to the hoax: US leads wealthy countries spending billions of public money on unproven ‘climate solutions’ https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/aug/29/unproven-climate-solutions-spending Wouldn't it be cheaper and just as effective to buy all the dream catchers at all of the art and craft fairs that flourish all summer long? Rebrand them as Carbon Catchers. Put them in a field of lush, productive pasture formerly used by farting cows, and let all the lefties think something useful is happening. I am sure we can save several billion tax dollars and affect the climate by the same amount (rounded to the .00001 of a degree over the next century).

Blackfoot. They used to come to the Lees Summit Xmas tournament in Mo. might still, been a long time since I’ve went. Tough team they had back then, 06-10 range

Getting held back is market standard for competitive athletes in wrestling, and has been for a long time now. They spend some time talking about that in the RBY documentary Flo did.

Bob Dole = "Like" Brain = "Smart post" Laughing face = "LOL" Wrestling = "Wrestling" Cigarette = "That was a heavy post, I may need a cigarette to help me digest the implications" Death skull = "I'm laughing so hard I am actually dead" Confused face = "Me, the person that is using this emoji, is a Karen" Stalling = "Jombo" Potato = "Idaho" Shit = "Shitpost" Clown = "Clownpost" Duck = "Patrick Glory ducked Jesse Ybarra" Banana = "Ionel" etc