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  1. Andonian is a hard guy to use as a benchmark. There are obvious positive to take away for Shapiro. He stayed positional sound the entire match and never gave in to any of the crazy stuff Andonian goes for, but Andonian will happily go down by double digits just to try and put a guy to his back. And the 3 point takedown really punishes sloppy wrestling. Results against him, win or lose, don't translate well to matches against any other wrestlers.
    5 points
  2. Trent Hidlay... ... and character "Ray" from the Fifth Element . D3.
    4 points
  3. Aged like milk, lol.
    4 points
  4. That's a pretty lame excuse. I was still going strong at 10pm ET and I started drinking at 1pm ET.
    4 points
  5. i think Pyles is one of the best guys to call a match that we have in the sport. he really knows tendencies and arsenals - i.e. what to watch for. the pool is small, but there's not too many wrestling announcers that are better.
    3 points
  6. its sort of funny how hidlays fire hydrant body prevents his singlet from fitting.
    3 points
  7. 3 points
  8. Hi Mizzou friends, here’s final brackets in case you can’t find elsewhere. https://theguillotine.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/2023-Cougar-Clash-Brackets.pdf Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    2 points
  9. IMO more often than not guys do better after moving from 197 to HWT
    2 points
  10. By what measure… so that someone might evaluate your belief
    2 points
  11. Nic Bouzakis, after losing in the 1st rnd by a majorD Tyler Smith from Stanford, GOES ON AN BONUS POINT TEAR all the way to the third place bout. That something... do ya think he was slightly motivated? D3
    2 points
  12. I don't get the really strong anti-Pyles sentiment. He's knowledgable and passionate about the sport, and especially the hundreds of wrestlers who inhabit it, including their past matches, tendencies on the mat, records, and so on. I suspect some folks don't like his asides, wisecracks, and personal opinions, and maybe some of that comes from his FRL FLO show. Who knows? I tend to prefer when he is commenting on a match with someone else as well: Bader, Taylor, Spey, etc. since can balance each other out: PBP vs. color commentary, etc.
    2 points
  13. Looks like Ohio state is exceeding the experts' predictions thus far this year, rankings wise. So, why are so many Penn State wrestling fans so critical of anything Ohio State wrestling? They've got to be the most insecure fan base in sports
    2 points
  14. A little under the weather. Warming up some Ghadiali Campbell soup
    2 points
  15. I should admit that even though I'm right I would not deny that its a cynical position on my part.
    2 points
  16. Nice to have the video frozen and listen to people argue if it's frozen....then have it continue to be frozen.
    2 points
  17. Dustin Plott built his house of Bricks - and does not fear big bad Sam Wolf
    2 points
  18. yeah but none about wrestling....its a not a soap opera
    2 points
  19. No everything he says is shockingly superficial.
    2 points
  20. Mendez 11-3. Controlled him.
    2 points
  21. Few wrestle back “upsets” Zaconne from Campbell knocks out Chelbove 149- Jordan Williams loses to Hofstras Noah Tapia 184- aaron ayzerov majors Foca , Ayzerov then lost to Fisher from V tech , Ayzerov is a tough dude , won NJ states his senior year with a torn Meniscus in a real tough weight , I think 1st thru 7th are all wrestling D1 now 184- Dylan Fishback over Munoz , Fisher over Kane , Bullock over Gavin Hoffman 197- Sonny Sasso was the last seed in the weight and in wrestlebacks beat the 16 seed Striggow, the #11 seed Bates, the 14th seed Hopkins from Campbell and then won by med ff over #4 Luke Surber, he faces #7 Nick Stammet next 285 Boone McDermott beat #4 Trephan , and Fernandes over Catka which is an upset in seed only
    2 points
  22. If I had one of those prob would've destroyed my TV when Plott attempted to put Pinto in a cradle.
    2 points
  23. Seltzer, Edmond and Both Elams are shown on the brackets. Big Elam and Seltzer have wrestled already. The Cougar Clash is on espn+, but only showing Mat 1. Still I’ll take that. Espn for the win lol.
    2 points
  24. Wish I could take back the money I spent for my daughter’s education to Lindenwood. Was super excited win they went D1 on to jump up and down on the sport I’m passionate about. Sons a bitches.
    2 points
  25. Dake took two losses at this tournament his true frosh season as well, iirc...
    2 points
  26. Feldman looks like a giant Tomasello
    2 points
  27. After building their Program through the years to finally transition to D1 … then this. This really blows for the State of Missouri & Wrestling in general. Super disappointing.
    1 point
  28. 10pm? You're a wild man. That's an hour past my bedtime.
    1 point
  29. Bro, you're weak. Snap into it. Get up everyday at 5am and go to work, then come home and work some more... Agreed on Cardenas and on Shapiro's gas tank.
    1 point
  30. Wish I could like this post more than once. I’ve watched a lot of BA matches over the past few years and you just have to take those results with a grain of salt. He’s so damn fun to watch, but it can also get kind of random with results and how the matches are dictated.
    1 point
  31. Day one at the Cliff Keen Las Vegas Invitational is in the books and what a day it was! We had upsets, excellent freshmen announced their presence on the DI scene; some were much anticipated, while others were more of a surprise. Some of the best college wrestlers in the nation showed why they’re great and we had a great day of wrestling. In a few hours, there will be more. The semifinals are set and the intensity will be turned up a few more notches for that round. Looking over the matchups for the semifinals there are some great ones. I’d imagine once March comes and goes, we’ll notice some of these matches recurring in prominent rounds at the NCAA Tournament. While all of the semifinals are interesting in their own right, we’ve picked out ten that we’re anticipating a little bit more than the others. 125 lbs #11 Jore Volk (Wyoming) vs. #20 Nico Provo (Stanford) Coming into the tournament, we identified 125 lbs as a weight class that could steer away from “going chalk” because of the sheer depth of its entrants. On that top half of the bracket that proved to be the case with a semifinal that features the fifth seed (Jore Volk) versus the ninth seed (Nico Provo). Both are sophomores who are coming off a berth at the 2023 NCAA Championships. Provo knocked off the top seed, NCAA runner-up Matt Ramos. Interestingly enough, the pair clashed in the first round of the NCAA tournament and Ramos prevailed 3-2. Provo proved to be a difficult matchup for Ramos, but was able to get the W this time, to the tune of 8-1. Before the Ramos win, Provo also had an impressive one-sided, 12-5 victory over #18 Kysen Terukina (Iowa State). Vok has wrestled close matches all tournament and most recently pulled the slight upset over fourth-seeded Caleb Smith (Nebraska). The two do not have any prior history with each other at the collegiate level. 133 lbs #8 Evan Frost (Iowa State) vs. Tyler Knox (Stanford) Let’s face it, 133 lbs is aching for some new blood and new contenders. Enter Evan Frost and Tyler Knox. Before this tournament, we suspected that Frost fit the bill after his decisive victory over former Big 12 champion Brody Teske (Iowa). Frost has continued to impress with major decisions in both the Round of 16 and the quarterfinals. His quarterfinal win over Zeth Romney (Cal Poly) may be most impressive as Romney was just coming off of a pair of upset wins. Knox is a true freshman that only had two matches of collegiate experience under his belt, prior to Friday. To open his tournament, Knox had a dominant victory over U20 World bronze medalist, Nic Bouzakis of Ohio State. He’d follow up with a pair of wins over past national qualifiers Richie Koehler (Rider) and Reece Witcraft (Oklahoma State). Both of these freshmen have shown that they control matches from the top position so it’ll be interesting to see how the second and third periods play out. 141 lbs #3 Lachlan McNeil (North Carolina) vs. #7 Ryan Jack (NC State) 141 lbs was one of the few weights where the top-four seeds advanced to the semifinals. Though there were no significant upsets, that doesn’t mean that this weight is boring. Actually, it’s very intriguing. The top half features a pair of ACC rivals squaring off. Last season, Lachlan McNeil and Ryan Jack clashed twice. Once in a conference dual and the other time at the ACC meet. In both instances, Ryan Jack came out on top. But, at nationals, Lachlan McNeil finished fourth in the nation and Jack left empty-handed after going 1-2. Can Jack shake up the rankings and make it three in-a-row? Maybe the NCAA finish and another offseason in the Tar Heel wrestling room have pushed McNeil past Jack. McNeil had to show some resiliency to get by Anthony Echemendia (Iowa State) in the quarterfinals, while Jack had to regroup and earn a pair of third-period takedowns to stop a Cael Happel rally. #4 Brock Hardy (Nebraska) vs. #5 Jesse Mendez (Ohio State) Like the top half of the bracket, this side features a pair of conference opponents butting heads. Unlike the ACC squirmish, Brock Hardy and Jesse Mendez have yet to meet in collegiate action. That’s because Mendez competed at 133 lbs as a true freshman in 2022-23. Both he and Hardy ended up finishing sixth in the nation. Mendez comes into this match after three straight dominating performances. Hardy had two then needed to grind out a 4-0 win over Oklahoma State’s Tagen Jamison. This bout will also be very important in the team race as Ohio State holds a 3.5-point lead over Nebraska heading into day two. As we’re likely to go in regular order for the finals, Hardy would have the opportunity to become the first two-time CKLV champion of 2023. But, we’re getting ahead of ourselves, as he’ll have to put away a very tough Mendez before worrying about individual accolades. 149 lbs #3 Kyle Parco (Arizona State) vs. #4 Caleb Henson (Virginia Tech) While much of the attention was given to the 157 lb weight class, 149 lbs had an argument as the best in this tournament. Six of the top seven and 11 of the top 14 wrestlers in the country toed the line Friday. The two versus three match on the bottom half of the bracket features a pair of returning All-Americans, Kyle Parco and Caleb Henson. Though they were both AA in the same NCAA weight, they did not meet last season. Parco would end up finishing fourth, which was directly above Henson. Because of the depth of this weight class, both wrestlers had to dig deep and get by dangerous opponents in the quarterfinals. Parco held off Casey Swiderski (Iowa State) in a 4-2 victory; Henson won 10-6, though the bout was tied after two periods. 157 lbs #4 Jacori Teemer (Arizona State) vs. #9 Daniel Cardenas (Stanford) One of the key storylines of this tournament was the arrival of U20 world champion Meyer Shapiro on the big stage. Shapiro didn’t disappoint majoring two-time All-American Bryce Andonian during his much-anticipated Round of 16 match. Well, no one told Daniel Cardenas that this was supposed to be the Shapiro coronation. Cardenas got an early takedown on Shapiro and never looked back in an 8-5 win. Before that, Cardenas was also on the right side of a great battle with Cody Chittum (Iowa State) in the Round of 16. With all the attention on the youth of the 157 lb weight class, Jacori Teemer has just kept chugging along. He got by a dangerous Ryder Downey (Northern Iowa) after Downey had beaten Trevor Chumbley (Northwestern) and Paddy Gallagher (Ohio State). This is a match we didn’t get to see last year as Teemer missed the entirety of the season with an injury. Luckily, we may get to see it at least two more times after Saturday. 165 lbs #3 Cam Amine (Michigan) vs. #4 Izzak Olejnik (Oklahoma State) The 165 lb bracket generally did what it was supposed to do and all four top seeds advanced to the semifinals. The bottom half of the bracket seems more intriguing as we’ll have a battle between Cam Amine and Izzak Olejnik. These two have a history with Amine winning a pair of close matches one of which was in 2021-22 at the NCAA Tournament and the other came in 2019-20 at the Michigan State Open. That may not matter, at least on Olejnik’s behalf. He’s already reversed one past result this season when he defeated two-time All-American Dean Hamiti (Wisconsin) at the All-Star Classic. Could the new training situation at Oklahoma State help him get past Amine? In his last match, Olejnik cooled off a hot Giano Petrucelli (Air Force) in an 8-1 win. True to form, Amine has had a pair of workman-like decisions in his most recent matches. 184 lbs #1 Parker Keckeisen (Northern Iowa) vs. #7 Lenny Pinto (Nebraska) Another weight class that was circled because of its number of credential entrants was 184 lbs. Top-ranked Parker Keckeisen didn’t seem to be bothered as he posted a pin and a tech in his first two matches before a cool 13-3 major decision over returning All-American Gavin Kane (North Carolina). Lenny Pinto, on the other hand, is coming off of two interesting wins. In the Round of 16, he held off promising freshman Dylan Fishback (NC State). A match later, he survived a 12-10 shootout against Dustin Plott (Oklahoma State). These two met last year in the semifinals at this tournament and Keckeisen got the 11-2 major decision. 197 lbs #3 Tanner Sloan (South Dakota State) vs. #9 Jaxon Smith (Maryland) The 197 lb weight class has a pair of new matches that we haven’t seen before, which I enjoy. Also, all four semifinalists, have some sort of age-group world hardware to their names. The top half of the bracket features the returning national runner-up (Tanner Sloan) with a sophomore who was a match away from the NCAA podium last year. Sloan suffered a loss in the 2022 CKLV quarterfinals and battled back for third. That didn’t happen this year as he had two lopsided wins before gutting out a 2-0 decision over Max Shaw in the quarters. Smith will be well-rested because he was the only wrestler who advanced to the semifinals without a match. His opponent, Luke Surber, medically forfeited out of the tournament. In the Round of 16, Smith was pushed the the brink by redshirt freshman Wyatt Voelker (Northern Iowa), but managed to get by, by a point. #5 Trent Hidlay (NC State) vs. #6 Jacob Cardenas (Cornell) Two of the most dominating performances in the quarterfinals, at any weight, came from Trent Hidlay and Jacob Cardenas. And now they meet in the semis. Both defeated their opponents via tech fall. Hidlay, 21-5 over Utah Valley’s national qualifier Evan Bockman. Cardenas did so over 2023 Big Ten champion Silas Allred. Since Hidlay has spent his entire career, before 2023-24, at 184 lbs, these two returning All-Americans have not met on collegiate mats. This will be an interesting clash of body styles. Hidlay is shorter for the weight and stocky, while Cardenas is tall, long and one of the more muscle-bound 197 lbers.
    1 point
  32. Cardenas looked very good, although worth noting that 10 of those points came in like a 10 second span. He also earned a three point nearfall for those wondering if there have been any yet this year.
    1 point
  33. 1 Iowa State 88.5 2 Ohio State 86 3 Nebraska 82.5 4 Cornell 73 5 NC State 72 6 Oregon State 69 7 Michigan 67.5 8 Stanford 65 9 South Dakota State 57.5 10 Oklahoma State 50 11 Virginia Tech 48.5 12 Northern Iowa 47.5 13 Navy 42 14 Campbell 41 15 Ohio 38
    1 point
  34. The Shapiro is unbeatable era is over, but don't be too quick to bury him. He is still very talented and can produce big things.
    1 point
  35. It is the first of December. It's a long time till March and I am not a fly on the wall in the Zou room. As a fan, I would have loved to seen the Elam-Buchanan match up, but wasn't expecting to see it. I'm curious what kind of weight cut Rocky has to do to maintain 197. Could we see him do a Batista and bump up to Hvy next year and open up a slot to alleviate the jam at 184. Also curious about motivation. I can't fathom the physical/mental drain 5 and 6 yrs of college wrestling take. 4 was plenty for me and I came up during the Dan Gable "head wrapped, limping on one leg, running in the middle of the night when the Russians were sleeping", mentality. As athletes, there comes a time when we ask ourselves that philosophical question, "why?" I'm sure there are several forum regulars that know exactly what I'm referencing. Isn't it strange how the "lenses in our glasses" change with each decade?
    1 point
  36. Hardly a duck when he hasn't wrestled yet this year.
    1 point
  37. Crazy tournament ... Griffith beat...Munoz out... Shapiro looks unstoppable then looks very stoppable... some tough matches.
    1 point
  38. I started, but didn't have the strength to finish it. eleven hours and twenty minutes of wrestling.
    1 point
  39. Has someone started the "I enjoyed the Meyer Shapiro projected 4 timer era" thread yet?
    1 point
  40. I hope this isn’t the case, but one would have to wonder. It’s happening, not just Rocky and Mizzou, but throughout wrestling.
    1 point
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  42. Jesse Mendez is fun to watch.
    1 point
  43. I was at the match. Penn wrestled Iowa tough. The crowd showed a lot of support. The Brands brothers of course were bouncing around on the sidelines. Maximus Hale ... what a name.
    1 point
  44. 4-5 years of watching most of BA’s matches
    1 point
  45. got to love glazier. modest talent with guts.
    1 point
  46. Okay I have a dumb question. What is HFS? Second, It's okay to HEW. It is especially okay for Griffith to potentially HEW at the end of the semester. He literally saved so many Stanford sports. Not "just" wrestling. He put the team on his back like Greg Jennings in Madden. But he also is smart to get his Ross MBA paid for and then double down by getting paid. He doesn't even have to go to work for 2-4 years before applying like most T1 MBA candidates. I mean look back at his NCAA interview... he was ready to move on but he's a young businessman and $ talks. I hope he wins the whole damn thing as the shining star on top of the stellar career he has already had.
    1 point
  47. @jross Why is Bill Ackman wrong in his informed opinion? X is treated unfairly and inconsistently by advertisers That is impossible to say. No other company has Musk doing what Musk is doing. Advertisers are responding to his actions, not the other way around. Musk is targeted because the other media organizations view X as a competitor and controversies increase clicks/revenue If the current version of Twitter.com is a competitor, so was the old version of Twitter.com. Little has changed in that respect save for one minor element. Musk. The Disney(s) cave to public pressure in a way that is not in their best interest How do you measure this? They are clearly acting in what they believe to be their own best interests as fiduciaries for the investors. But the definition of that has certainly changed over time. It used to only be about profits (except in extreme cases), but now there are "other stakeholders" to consider. That is a whole other topic. But how do you measure their best interest to determine they are not acting in it. In Musk's case he does not appear to be acting in his own best interest. He hired a CEO specifically charged with getting advertisers back, and one with a background in advertising at one of his target clients, then he goes out of his way to make her job impossible. Musk did not have antisemitic intent when he responded with the ‘actual truth’ tweet I do not know his intent, nor do you I suspect. I do know the impact of his amplification of anti-Semitic messages. It also seems like this is a very predictable outcome. But Musk is nothing if not impulsive when it comes to his Tweeting. It is the reason he has had to apologize for it so many times. Musk is correct in saying that Jews should rethink support for organizations that seek their elimination. I do not know what you are saying here. Earth is fortunate that X is owned by an individual that is largely insulated from financial and other influence. I thoroughly enjoy that Musk bought Twitter. The entertainment value for me is very high. The earth being fortunate seems a bit bombastic. And by a bit I mean a lot.
    1 point
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  49. Penultimate's almost the last word. mspart
    1 point
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