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I really enjoyed the Max Dean exciting last regular season match era.

For the final edition of this post, prior to the final edition of this post, I thought I would take a look at the full season. Using Intermat's rankings from today to determine the current top 10 teams I traced their expected points back through time to the pre-season rankings. The gap at the top has grown significantly as the PSU freshmen first entered the rankings and then began to climb the rankings, growing from an expected lead over Iowa of 16.8 points to the current gap of 30.9 points. Meanwhile, the expected gap between #2 and #3 has shrunk from 14.8 to 10.2 While #1 and #2 have remained fairly constant, #3 and #4 have not. Ohio State, Cornell, Michigan, and Iowa State have each had dalliances with the podium positions, but with Nebraska's meteoric rise and Missouri's relative stability these two now occupy the expected podium positions. But that occupancy is not a foregone conclusion. The race for the podium has tightened up significantly. At the beginning of the season there was a 98% difference between #4 (52.1 expected points) and #10 (26.3 expected points). That is down to a 25% difference (48.8 vs 39.1). Per usual, I am only looking at placement and advancement points based on the historical results from 2010 - 2022.

Note: I have no inside information on seedings so these are merely just my best guesses but figured they could be good discussion starters. You can use the interactive brackets using the following letters: D, M, T, F (decision, major, tech, fall). EIWA Interactive Bracket Seeding Guess (especially hard since there is no set schedule in EIWA) Conference record is based on their record vs. who I have as projected starters at the same weight CR = NCAA Coaches Ranking RPI = NCAA RPI Ratings WS = WrestleStat Rankings 125 lbs. #1 Patrick Glory (PRIN) (16-0, 4-0 EIWA): 2 CR, 2 WS #2 Deigo Sotelo (HAR) (14-5, 6-1 EIWA): 24 CR, 19 WS #3 Ryan Miller (PENN) (15-9, 7-3 EIWA): 26 CR, 20 RPI, 23 WS #4 Brett Ungar (COR) (14-10, 3-3 EIWA): 19 CR, 2 RPI, 24 WS #5 Nick Babin (COL) (17-10, 3-3 EIWA): 27 CR, 18 RPI, 20 WS #6 Ethan Berginc (ARMY) (23-4, 6-3 EIWA): 25 CR, 33 RPI, 34 WS #7 Bailey Carter (LEH) (7-9, 3-4 EIWA): 37 WS #8 Micah Roes (BING) (11-11, 3-3 EIWA): 42 WS #9 Max Leete (AMER) (21-10, 3-3 EIWA): 50 WS #10 Shane Hanson-Ashworth (BRWN) (3-5, 1-2 EIWA): 59 WS #11 Mason Leiphart (F&M) (25-11, 5-2 EIWA): 33 RPI, 52 WS #12 Dayton DelViscio (NAVY) (5-6, 2-1 EIWA): 66 WS #13 Jacob Moon (HOF) (9-13, 4-6 EIWA): 69 WS #14 Robbie Sagaris (LIU) (11-12, 4-3 EIWA): 71 WS #15 Antonio Mininno (DREX) (8-14, 0-4 EIWA): 65 WS #16 Mike Manta (SH) (4-13, 1-7 EIWA): 77 WS #17 Grayson McLellan (BUCK) (0-17, 0-7 EIWA): 79 WS 133 lbs. #1 Vito Arujau (COR) (16-1, 3-0 EIWA): 2 CR, 2 RPI, 3 WS #2 Michael Colaiocco (PENN) (20-4, 4-1 EIWA): 8 CR, 11 RPI, 8 WS #3 Connor McGonagle (LEH) (11-2, 4-0 EIWA): 5 CR, 17 WS #4 Kurt Phipps (BUCK) (28-9, 10-0 EIWA): 23 CR, 27 RPI, 24 WS #5 Kyle Waterman (DREX) (14-8, 7-1 EIWA): 32 RPI, 34 WS #6 Hunter Adrian (BRWN) (18-10, 5-1 EIWA): 31 WS #7 Ryan Franco (ARMY) (22-11, 0-1 EIWA): 41 WS #8 Pat Phillips (F&M) (22-12, 4-2 EIWA): 56 WS #9 Dante Frinzi (HAR) (10-12, 1-4 EIWA): 44 WS #10 Angelo RIni (COL) (8-14, 2-8 EIWA): 29 CR, 21 RPI, 42 WS #11 Brendan Ferretti (NAVY) (20-7, 3-5 EIWA): 19 RPI, 29 WS #12 Jack Maida (AMER) (17-11, 3-3 EIWA): 29 RPI, 50 WS #13 Ivan Garcia (BING) (19-13, 1-3 EIWA): 53 WS #14 Chase Liardi (HOF) (10-11, 0-5 EIWA): 40 WS #15 Andrew Fallon (SH) (6-9, 2-4 EIWA): 65 WS #16 Kaelen Francois (LIU) (10-20, 0-6 EIWA): 78 WS #17 Anthony Clark (PRIN) (4-10, 0-5 EIWA): 69 WS 141 lbs. #1 Vince Cornella (COR) (16-4, 4-1 EIWA): 13 CR, 6 RPI, 19 WS #2 Matthew Kazmir (COL) (17-7, 6-3 EIWA): 25 CR, 17 RPI, 18 WS #3 Malyke Hines (LEH) (13-10, 3-3 EIWA): 23 CR, 22 RPI, 28 WS #4 Joshua Koderhandt (NAVY) (24-9, 4-3 EIWA): 27 CR, 20 RPI, 30 WS #5 Darren Miller (BUCK) (18-6, 6-3 EIWA): 26 CR, 21 RPI, 26 WS #6 Carmen Ferrante (PENN) (17-10, 5-2 EIWA): 23 RPI, 36 WS #7 Julian Sanchez (ARMY) (11-8, 3-2 EIWA): 29 RPI, 52 WS #8 Danny Coles (PRIN) (6-9, 1-1 EIWA): 44 WS #9 Joseph Cangro (HAR) (13-10, 3-4 EIWA): 49 WS #10 Justin Hoyle (HOF) (16-11, 5-4 EIWA): 30 RPI, 43 WS #11 Nathan Lucier (BING) (17-15, 3-1 EIWA): 50 WS #12 Jordan Soriano (DREX) (10-12, 2-6 EIWA): 55 WS #13 Ethan Szerencsits (AMER) (10-11, 0-3 EIWA): 57 WS #14 Justin Bierdumpfel (BRWN) (6-5, 0-1 EIWA): 66 WS #15 Aidan O'Shea (F&M) (16-15, 1-3 EIWA): 63 WS #16 Devin Matthews (LIU) (10-14, 1-6 EIWA): 71 WS #17 Dakota Asuncion (SH) (7-10, 1-2 EIWA): 64 WS 149 lbs. #1 Yianni Diakomihalis (COR) (12-1, 4-0 EIWA): 3 CR, 1 WS #2 Doug Zapf (PENN) (18-6, 5-1 EIWA): 12 CR, 4 RPI, 14 WS #3 Max Brignola (LEH) (13-8, 4-2 EIWA): 32 CR, 19 RPI, 40 WS #4 Trae McDaniel (ARMY) (28-9, 2-1 EIWA): 34 WS #5 Luke Nichter (DREX) (13-6, 6-1 EIWA): 44 WS #6 Danny Fongaro (COL) (15-13, 4-4 EIWA): 25 RPI, 45 WS #7 Jack Crook (HAR) (12-10, 2-3 EIWA): 32 RPI, 51 WS #8 Blake Saito (BRWN) (13-12, 2-2 EIWA): 49 WS #9 Drew Witham (LIU) (18-15, 3-3 EIWA): 63 WS #10 Michael Zarif (BING) (14-14, 5-4 EIWA): 54 WS #11 Kaemen Smith (NAVY) (9-15, 2-4 EIWA): 48 WS #12 Marshall Keller (PRIN) (7-11, 1-5 EIWA): 62 WS #13 Dylan Chappell (BUCK) (25-9, 1-2 EIWA): 32 WS #14 Bryce Kresho (F&M) (14-14, 1-2 EIWA): 71 WS #15 Patrick Ryan (AMER) (6-14, 0-3 EIWA): 67 WS #16 Mike McGhee (SH) (3-9, 1-1 EIWA): 73 WS #17 Michael Leandrou (HOF) (2-16, 0-5 EIWA): 75 WS 157 lbs. #1 Josh Humphreys (LEH) (12-0, 4-0 EIWA): 4 CR, 4 WS #2 Andrew Cerniglia (NAVY) (7-5, 3-0 EIWA): 30 CR, 39 WS #3 Cesar Alvan (COL) (18-5, 5-1 EIWA): 23 CR, 19 RPI, 17 WS #4 Anthony Artalona (PENN) (23-5, 7-1 EIWA): 15 CR, 6 RPI, 16 WS #5 Nathan Lukez (ARMY) (16-11, 3-3 EIWA): 25 RPI, 42 WS #6 Trevor Tarsi (HAR) (8-4, 3-2 EIWA): 32 WS #7 Cole Handlovic (COR) (8-8, 3-3 EIWA): 44 WS #8 Ty Whalen (PRIN) (13-11, 4-5 EIWA): 50 WS #9 Nick Delp (BUCK) (8-8, 0-2 EIWA): 53 WS #10 Jack Nies (AMER) (11-14, 3-3 EIWA): 57 WS #11 Nick Palumbo (SH) (7-3, 5-2 EIWA): 56 WS #12 Sam McMonagle (BRWN) (11-14, 2-5 EIWA): 60 WS #13 Rhise Royster (LIU) (14-17, 4-4 EIWA): 62 WS #14 Tate Nichter (DREX) (10-12, 0-4 EIWA): 61 WS #15 Conner Decker (BING) (10-17, 1-5 EIWA): 63 WS #16 Joe McGinty (HOF) (5-8, 1-4 EIWA): 64 WS #17 Nick Alvarez (F&M) (14-16, 0-4 EIWA): 74 WS 165 lbs. #1 Julian Ramirez (COR) (20-3, 7-0 EIWA): 7 CR, 5 RPI, 7 WS #2 Quincy Monday (PRIN) (19-1, 5-1 EIWA): 4 CR, 8 WS #3 Joshua Ogunsanya (COL) (16-5, 4-2 EIWA): 16 CR, 16 RPI, 19 WS #4 Evan Barczak (DREX) (24-3, 7-0 EIWA): 24 CR, 20 RPI, 17 WS #5 Brevin Cassella (BING) (17-4, 5-1 EIWA): 34 WS #6 Lucas Revano (PENN) (17-13, 5-5 EIWA): 28 RPI, 37 WS #7 Joshua Kim (HAR) (11-12, 3-7 EIWA): 29 RPI, 47 WS #8 Val Park (NAVY) (21-12, 7-2 EIWA): 32 RPI, 48 WS #9 Caleb Compos (AMER) (17-11, 4-5 EIWA): 40 WS #10 Dalton Harkins (ARMY) (15-11, 2-4 EIWA): 50 WS #11 Chase Barlow (BUCK) (9-16, 2-6 EIWA): 65 WS #12 Blake Bahna (LIU) (13-16, 2-3 EIWA): 64 WS #13 Harrison Trahan (BRWN) (8-11, 3-3 EIWA): 68 WS #14 Luca Frinzi (LEH) (11-12, 0-7 EIWA): 61 WS #15 Aidan Zarrella (SH) (8-12, 2-4 EIWA): 76 WS #16 Matthew Rogers (HOF) (4-9, 0-4 EIWA): 77 WS #17 RJ Moore (F&M) (7-20, 0-4 EIWA): 78 WS 174 lbs. #1 Chris Foca (COR) (21-1, 6-0 EIWA): 4 CR, 2 RPI, 4 WS #2 Nick Incontrera (PENN) (22-7, 7-2 EIWA): 19 CR, 24 RPI, 10 WS #3 Ben Pasiuk (ARMY) (19-4, 7-2 EIWA): 18 CR, 20 RPI, 17 WS #4 Michael O'Malley (DREX) (14-2, 4-2 EIWA): 6 CR, 9 WS #5 Phillip Conigliaro (HAR) (7-4, 3-1 EIWA): 15 WS #6 Lenox Wolak (COL) (15-8, 6-4 EIWA): 28 CR, 10 RPI, 21 WS #7 Kole Mulhauser (PRIN) (14-9, 5-3 EIWA): 28 RPI, 40 WS #8 Jake Logan (LEH) (8-13, 3-5 EIWA): 31 RPI, 59 WS #9 Sam DePrez (BING) (12-9, 4-4 EIWA): 22 RPI, 58 WS #10 Ross McFarland (HOF) (12-9, 5-3 EIWA): 29 RPI, 41 WS #11 Sammy Starr (NAVY) (19-14, 2-5 EIWA): 27 RPI, 44 WS #12 Drew Clearie (BRWN) (7-12, 3-4 EIWA): 69 WS #13 Noah Fox (F&M) (23-13, 1-4 EIWA): 56 WS #14 Lucas White (AMER) (11-18, 3-4 EIWA): 62 WS #15 Sam Barnes (BUCK) (10-19, 2-6 EIWA): 64 WS #16 Ryan Bolletino (SH) (4-15, 1-7 EIWA): 75 WS #17 TJ Franden (LIU) (7-20, 1-7 EIWA): 77 WS 184 lbs. #1 Tate Samuelson (LEH) (17-7, 9-0 EIWA): 19 CR, 19 RPI, 17 WS #2 Jacob Nolan (BING) (17-6, 5-1 EIWA): 20 CR, 16 RPI, 19 WS #3 Brian Bonino (DREX) (18-6, 5-2 EIWA): 23 CR, 24 RPI, 30 WS #4 Jacob Ferreira (HOF) (19-8, 8-2 EIWA): 24 CR, 10 RPI, 26 WS #5 David Key (NAVY) (17-8, 1-2 EIWA): 32 CR, 28 WS #6 Nate Dugan (PRIN) (15-11, 3-4 EIWA): 25 RPI, 25 WS #7 Sahm AbdulRazzaq (ARMY) (16-12, 3-3 EIWA): 45 WS #8 Leonardo Tarantino (HAR) (11-10, 2-4 EIWA): 26 RPI, 47 WS #9 Maximus Hale (PENN) (12-12, 3-5 EIWA): 32 RPI, 24 WS #10 Aaron Ayzerov (COL) (16-8, 5-3 EIWA): 37 WS #11 James Conway (F&M) (22-13, 1-3 EIWA): 49 WS #12 Mason McCready (BUCK) (11-12, 1-4 EIWA): 54 WS #13 James Araneo (BRWN) (4-8, 2-2 EIWA): 53 WS #14 Colin Shannon (AMER) (9-14, 0-4 EIWA): 63 WS #15 Ethan Hatcher (COR) (2-8, 0-3 EIWA): 25 CR, 52 WS #16 Joseph LoPresti (LIU) (6-21, 1-2 EIWA): 77 WS #17 Owen Ayotte (SH) (4-17, 0-5 EIWA): 78 WS 197 lbs. #1 Michael Beard (LEH) (16-2, 6-0 EIWA): 2 CR, 1 RPI, 2 WS #2 Jacob Cardenas (COR) (12-3, 5-1 EIWA): 15 CR, 16 WS #3 Luke Stout (PRIN) (16-8, 4-2 EIWA): 19 CR, 25 RPI, 20 WS #4 Jake Koser (NAVY) (23-8, 6-1 EIWA): 24 CR, 20 RPI, 29 WS #5 Trey Rogers (HOF) (18-3, 9-1 EIWA): 26 CR, 13 RPI, 28 WS #6 Cole Urbas (PENN) (16-11, 7-5 EIWA): 30 CR, 24 RPI, 34 WS #7 John Crawford (F&M) (23-11, 5-3 EIWA): 31 CR, 30 RPI, 38 WS #8 Sean O'Malley (DREX) (11-9, 2-4 EIWA): 40 WS #9 Jack Wehmeyer (COL) (9-10, 3-4 EIWA): 49 WS #10 Nolan Springer (BUCK) (13-14, 2-6 EIWA): 52 WS #11 Connor Bourne (AMER) (13-8, 2-3 EIWA): 65 WS #12 Dimitri Gamkrelidze (BING) (9-10, 1-3 EIWA): 46 WS #13 Aaron Wolk (BRWN) (4-11, 3-2 EIWA): 71 WS #14 Michael Doggett (HAR) (2-12, 0-6 EIWA): 74 WS #15 Kyle Swartz (ARMY) (5-16, 1-8 EIWA): 75 WS #16 John Dusza (LIU) (6-12, 1-3 EIWA): 76 WS #17 Logan Michael (SH) (2-15, 0-5 EIWA): 79 WS 285 lbs. #1 Yaraslau Slavikouski (HAR) (23-3, 10-0 EIWA): 9 CR, 1 RPI, 9 WS #2 Grady Griess (NAVY) (30-5, 6-2 EIWA): 20 CR, 14 RPI, 13 WS #3 Cory Day (BING) (15-8, 5-3 EIWA): 24 CR, 18 RPI, 28 WS #4 Ben Goldin (PENN) (18-11, 8-3 EIWA): 27 CR, 23 RPI, 31 WS #5 Nathan Taylor (LEH) (13-9, 7-3 EIWA): 30 CR, 20 RPI, 22 WS #6 Brendan Furman (COR) (6-6, 4-4 EIWA): 30 WS #7 Dorian Crosby (BUCK) (17-10, 6-2 EIWA): 29 CR, 27 RPI, 20 WS #8 Travis Stefanik (PRIN) (14-10, 4-5 EIWA): 31 CR, 29 RPI, 32 WS #9 Zachary Knighton-Ward (HOF) (18-11, 5-5 EIWA): 25 RPI, 37 WS #10 William McChesney (COL) (11-15, 2-6 EIWA): 51 WS #11 Cenzo Pelusi (F&M) (14-5, 3-4 EIWA): 48 WS #12 Kade Carlson (ARMY) (10-13, 2-4 EIWA): 58 WS #13 William Jarrell (AMER) (13-12, 1-5 EIWA): 54 WS #14 Santino Morina (DREX) (3-10, 1-5 EIWA): 67 WS #15 Aeden Begue (LIU) (10-17, 2-5 EIWA): 71 WS #16 Alex Semenenko (BRWN) (6-18, 0-7 EIWA): 69 WS #17 Marc Berisha (SH) (1-11, 0-3 EIWA): 76 WS Team Standings (based on seeds, no bonus) 1. Cornell - 135.5 2. Lehigh - 113.5 3. Penn - 105 4. Princeton - 74 5. Navy - 68.5 6. Harvard - 67.5 7. Columbia - 67 t-8. Army - 59 t-8. Drexel - 59 10. Binghamton - 43.5 11. Bucknell - 28.5 12. Hofstra - 24 13. Brown - 15 14. Franklin & Marshall - 12 15. LIU - 5.5 16. Sacred Heart - 4.5 17. American - 3

Actually I discovered a missed one at 174 so Brodersen was dropped and Miller of Appalachian State was added. Here are the new conference numbers

Max suffered from a bout of diarrhea. Lost 17.38 pounds in the process. Day of the match Cael asked him to sit it out but being the man Dean is he decided to wrestle. This is insider information and I feel somewhat guilty for sharing this but Dean is currently in the hospital. He might die. Let us pray

Stupid because there's ~50 other moves he could've picked from that work on Lee every time.

Ear isn't big enough.

Sports Illustrated -- though this version of SI is a shadow of its former self-- says Penn State might break Iowa's 170-team points record. https://www.si.com/college/pennstate/wrestling/penn-state-wrestling-nittany-lions-finish-unbeaten-regular-season-with-win-over-clarion

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If they wrestle out of their minds they will be lucky to get within 30 points of the record, which won't even put them in the top 10. To say SI is a shadow of its old self is among the understatements of the year.

Let's just hope that he survives in the hospital and makes it to NCAA's. I mean it's going to be hard for me to argue against Cinnabon when he makes his, "Why PSU won't place in the Top 10" thread and I'll be clinging to Dean's death, Brooks' loss to Pinto in the Quarters, and RBY skipping for a gaming tournament as excuses.

Well, I couldn't help myself. Using Wrestlestat's RPI estimates, this spreadsheet has tabs for all of the weights and all of the people that could potentially earn a pre-allocation. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1g7fJRHTrJOg6q9Vx2ftxVYDFiJBEB3HMyic4IoGCLc0/edit?usp=sharing Explanation of format: The first two columns - name and conference are self-explanatory. The third column lists the wrestlers winning percentage* and the fourth notes any wrestler who has a top 30 RPI or a winning percentage of .700 or better but was not in the top 30 of the last CR. A caveat that there is a max of 29 pre-allocated spots and one has to go to EWL/MAC/Pac12/SoCon even if they don't have someone who meets the criteria, so there are more wrestlers who have 2 of 3 criteria than there are pre-allocated spots and this is before the last CR anyway, so the guys at the back of the top 30 who had a rough week or two may find themselves replaced. I also included some guys from weaker conferences who have a .700 winning percentage that technically need CR but don't have nearly a good enough RPI for the coaches to add them to the top 30 now, if they hadn't done it already, so no need to tell me that Palumbo or Stoltzfus are longshots. That said, Here are the splits by weight, pending the new CR: 125: ACC 3, B10 9, B12 6, EIWA 4, EWL 1, MAC 2, Pac12 3, SoCon 2 133: ACC 3, B10 9, B12 6, EIWA 7, EWL 1, MAC 1, Pac12 3, SoCon 2 141: ACC 4, B10 10, B12 7, EIWA 5, EWL 2, MAC 1, Pac12 1, SoCon 1 149: ACC 5, B10 9, B12 7, EIWA 3, EWL 2, MAC 2, Pac12 2, SoCon 1 157: ACC 3, B10 11, B12 8, EIWA 3, EWL 2, MAC 2, Pac12 1, SoCon 1 165: ACC 5, B10 10, B12 7, EIWA 4, EWL 1, MAC 1, Pac12 2, SoCon 2 174: ACC 3, B10 7, B12 7, EIWA 5, EWL 3, MAC 2, Pac12 2, SoCon 2 184: ACC 6, B10 9, B12 6, EIWA 5, EWL 1, MAC 1, Pac12 1, SoCon 1 197: ACC 5, B10 9, B12 7, EIWA 6, EWL 1, MAC 1, Pac12 3, SoCon 1 285: ACC 4, B10 9, B12 8, EIWA 5, EWL 1, MAC 1, Pac12 1, SoCon 1 Feel free to comment here or on the spreadsheet if you think I made any mistakes (and I probably did). * Also using Wrestlestat's calculations for win%, which can be off for these purposes if a wrestler moved up or down in weight. Looking at Patrick Glory's profile, they give the all-D1 winning % even though a handful of matches were at 133, so, grain of salt - especially for the guys right around .700.

Askren has complained several times on FRL that Sanderson won't spill the secret sauce. Maybe the Mirasolas are on a deep cover mission.

so ... you are saying its gonna be a crappy 1.5 week.

I was thinking back on this topic from other forums, but nevertheless intrigued if others think of schools having wrestling as a Varsity sport would be sick. I would love to see Western Oregon University (D2) bring back wrestling. I think it would be very benefical and bring enthusiasm to the wrestling scene even more with Oregon State, Linfield (D3, revived this current wrestling season) and other NAIA schools that brought wrestling to the local region of the Pacific Northwest and beyond of having more opportunities as of late. There is some hard nosed talent over on that side of the nation that can really benefit saying close to home. Especially back to Western Oregon. The program was shut down due to Measure 5 of property taxes and ultimately because of it, the program was cut with 65 seasons of program history in 1991 with a few of those wrestlers actually making the national champions at that season. Hopefully the "Mat Men" come back sooner then later. Here a link of there history for those interested. Link: https://wou.edu/westernhowl/the-history-of-westerns-wrestling-program/

5th place is worth 2 more points today than in 97, 6th place is worth 3 more points, giving PSU 5 more placement points given your assumptions. The only other difference is that Iowa had a single match termination which was worth 1 point. Today it would be worth 1.5 points.

No, I just took a look at the brackets on Wrestlingstats.

I'm liking how Ventresca is wrestling lately after going through a mid season slump. It'll be more clear after ACCs, but I'm picking him to win there and then make some noise at NCAAs.

Yet his work still speaks for itself. Deal with that.

That nothing but predator prosecution. That is weaponized government. He is a threat to the left. When he exposed the sales of aborted baby body parts and they went after him instead of the sick MFers selling chunks of babies. All his work speaks for itself and the old trick of trying to discredit the source only works on simple minded people. He's attacked for being right.

I don't know how you can disrespect him. His shit is real, and he exposes people with their own words. That's odd school investigative journalism. You may not like the fact that he exposes people on your side, but if nobody broke the law we wouldn't need police.

EIWA's fall on a Saturday/Sunday schedule this season... don't have to schedule a vacation day for LIVE viewing this time around. D3

Lived there from age 24 through age 30 on an extended work assignment. I had some flatmates in Kings Cross who were from Liverpool and introduced me to the scouse accent as well as the dish (a bit of an everything stew). One thing UK is completely ignorant to in my experience is wrestling. I joined an MMA gym while very out of shape and managed to do very well against those slobs.

Mind the Gap, ol' chap! D3

Just vacations and work trips. But I am a big Liverpool fan. So if you hear me saying things like he gave him a Scouse kiss, it's twitchy bum time, he ate all the pies, he hit a purple patch, or they are at sixes and sevens, you will know where it came from.

If they indeed do break the record, the Hawkeye report room will explode. There was already a topic where they discussed taking second to Penn St, which they figured, but absolutely don’t want them to break the most points scored record.

This is who earned the Conference Allocations per weight class: (Again this is using wrestlestat RPI rankings which are a tad different). Also, If they are in Red means they did not meet qualification standards. If a wrestler was not previously ranked in Coaches rankings cause of match amount and have since met the minimum amount of matches. I gave them the ranked they are placed in national rankings. (ie Rocky Elam has now met minimum match threshold and I have him down at #4) - Ventresca would have RPI but hasn't wrestled. Flynn would have both RPI and WIN % So if they are entered possibly ACC gains a qualifier and the MAC loses one. * As of now Henry Porter of Indiana doesn't meet the requirements. But after beating Brayden Palmer he will move up in the coaches rankings to give them an AQ. * This weight had a few others that could be considered and actually met criteria (Petite of Buffalo needs to be included in the Coaches rankings.) Alex Hornfeck of West Virginia and Andrew Clark of Rutgers - Nelson Brands didn't meet the criteria He is 6-4 which doesn't qualify him for RPI and his win % is below 70%, So he would have to finish 7th or higher to qualify for nationals. Because, if he finishes lower than 7th his coaches ranking will probably drop (it is currently 20) - Coaches Ranked Bernie Truax 33rd last rankings... I think logic will take over and he will be ranked higher this rankings. So I made the adjustment

125 Noah Surtin 133 Mickey Philipi 141 Cael Happel 149 Paniro Johnson 157 Will Lewan 165 Carson Kharchla 174 Edmond Ruth 184 Lenny Pinto 197 Braxton Amos HW AJ Nevills

Plasi is such the jokester! mspart

With a 2005 WC gold and a 2008 Oly gold, is there any question that Bouvaisar could not have added two more WC gold if he wanted to? I don't think there is a good argument for that. I think he got tired of it all but wanted that Oly gold in 2008. I think there might be an argument if Saitiev was not in the discussion for GOAT. mspart

death by pastry thread, hasn't this occurred before

Yep. Hines beat Cornella at Cornell 1/14. 4-2

on another site I think they said it was 83.83

I heard 15.87 lbs but your sources might be better.

Tbh I dont think it will happen, more like a "rooting for the underdog" pick. As for reasons to entertain: I think Vito is the only wrestler with the athleticism and skill set necessary to challenge the top two. But, put a gun to my head (or knee) and I'd pick RBY

Yeah, being from New Jersey I took an interest in fellow Jerseyans Larry Sciacchatano, Ricky Dellagatta, Clarence Richardson, etc., going down south. The SEC had multiple AA's 8 times in 11 years from 1975 thru 1985. They also had 4 different teams (Kentucky, Auburn, LSU & Tennessee) place in top 10 scoring. So while saying that "the SEC used to have some tough wrestling" may be giving the conference a little too much cred - "more of a myth than reality" may be a little bit harsh.

Aren't we supposed to wait till 3 minutes before the tournaments start for this thread?

125 - Gary Steen 133 - RBY 141 - Woods 149 - Diakomihalis 157 - O'Connor 165 - Carr 174 - Starocci 184 - Brooks 197 - Dean 285 - Kerkvliet Edit: I just noticed I mis-spelled Spencer Lee

I’ll throw Lachlan McNeil’s name in at 141. He wrestles a high pace, is solid on his feet, and has some nice wins this year. UNC guys also generally overperform their seed at the NCAA tournament. I think Lachlan is pretty likely to at least make the blood round and depending on his matchup can win there to AA as a redshirt freshman.

Saitiev was OLY gold from 1996 through 2008. He did not medal in 2000 as we all know. He won 6 WCs. His last WC was 2005 and he came back for 2008 to win gold. He is the best there was. His brother Adam was also very good but had the misfortune to be younger than Bouvi. But he won 2 WC and 1 OLY gold. Sadulaev has 5 WC and 2 OLY golds. So he is close to Saitiev. But I think Bouvaisar was a better freestyler. He is hands down considered the best there's ever been. mspart

I was trying to emphasize and add on to your point. My bad if it came across differently.

Glory could have struggles with weight management and injury recovery - any word from Princeton? Do not think Yianni or Vito are too worried, but the Penn #2 seeds are capable and will have a strategy on home mats. Beard might be the least worried #1 seed. O'Malley has a really tough path at EIWA's w this seeding. Conigliaro in quarters, Foca in the semis, and if he makes the finals could be Incontrera or Pasiuk. All of these guys have a shot at round of 12 and would expect at least a few AA's. A lot of parity at 141 and expect it to be a wild bracket. Hines is dangerous - suprising the number of losses he has. Have not seen Griess at 285, but 30 wins is impressive. I wonder if Goldin has a shot at the #3 seed at 285 and wonder if he even wants it? 165 - #2 seed may be right, but I am not betting against Monday.

Again for the people in the back. Title IX was the excuse not the reason. UTC doesn’t have Baseball or Men’s Soccer but has wrestling. Other schools wrestling teams/coaches made doing it the other way … way too easy with grades, behavior and the coaches doing the “anti politics” wrestling coaches take weird pride in. We also never really pushed to get our guys in Admin. beyond just coaching. Im well aware of what happened to Norte Dame and ODU. There were still dozens of schools where the wrestling team made it pretty easy to pick which team to cut

Well ... sure ... that may be the problem. Did they ever complete the bridge/road to nowhere and who could find RI even if they were looking? Although, Russia is big into wrestling and its my understand you can see Sarah Palin's back yard from Russia, so ...

Here is a link to Marlin Grahn their Hall of Fame wrestling coach and a lot of what he accomplished there. https://goviks.com/honors/portland-state-athletics-hall-of-fame/marlin-grahn/24 Fadz

BYU

The obvious schools are USC and UCLA. They should not be allowed to join the Big Ten unless they can field varsity wrestling teams. Overall, I think the trend of schools bringing back wrestling will continue, particularly at the lower end (d3, etc.). Seeing the increasing participation and recognition of girls wrestling is great. more colleges sponsoring women's wrestling, which will help the sport grow on the boys and men's side as well. Easier to invest in coaching and facilities when potentially double the number of athletes benefit. Also, with title ix concerns, it's good that there now exists a sport that can "balance" out wrestling (and it ends up being wrestling!). I wonder what would happen if more top schools would follow Iowa's lead and invest in the women's side. the growth for wrestling as a whole could really explode.

"Anyone outside the top 10 at any weight to place." this is who I have at the moment (intermat ranking) 125 - none 133 - 5th - Jesse Mendez (NR) 141 - 3rd - Beau Bartlett (15) 141 - 5th - Lachlan McNeil (20) 141 - 6th - Vince Cornella (NR) 149 - 8th -Shayne Van Ness (27) 157 - 7th - Mitch Mesenbrink (NR) (to be clear, i'm not sure that he's starting) 165 - 4th - Patrick Kennedy (15) 174 - 8th - Chris Foca (11) 184 - 6th - Lenny Pinto (NR) 197 - 7th - Ethan Laird (13) 285 - 6th - Trent Hillger (11)

Doug Zapf from Penn had a strong freestyle season beating Sasso and Ashnault.