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I just threw up a new database that has all ~40k matches that have taken place at the NCAA D1 championships. Check it out here. I just noticed the search and filter aren't working. I'm going to have to reach out to try and figure out why. Enjoy!

In response to my returning points thread, someone on 34andcounting asked what kind of points could a freshman be expected to score at the NCAA Tournament. Using Willie's Big Board data I decided to take a look. One huge caveat is that the numbers below are fitted lines through some VERY noisy data. The first thing I looked at was the odds of qualifying for the tournament based on BB rank. There are 12 years worth of graduating classes in the data (2013 - 2023) that have completed true freshman and redshirt freshman years. For these calcs I am including true freshmen and redshirt freshmen for each high school graduating year. For example, for 2022 grads I include 2023 true freshmen plus 2024 redshirt freshmen. 80% of Success is Showing Up 100% of #1 Big Boarders qualified for the tournament as either a true freshman or a redshirt freshman. These are your only sure things. By the time you get to the #10 BB it is a 50/50 proposition whether they even qualify for the tournament, never mind score once they get there. No Participation Points But you can't just show up. Once a freshman makes the tournament they still need to score. Combining scoring with probability of making the tournament steepens the curve somewhat. At almost 18 points per, #1 BB can be expected to score in the high teens in their freshmen year (true or redshirt). But that is it. No other rank cracks double digits. And by the time you get to the #10 ranked freshman recruit you are looking at about 4 points. Bring in da' Noise, Bring in da' Funk That really should be Mitchell Mesenbrink's walk out music. Remember what I said about the noise in the data? Mesenbrink is the physical embodiment of that noise (and he was trained by the Master of Funk). As the #59 ranked wrestler in his class, the line above suggests he is good for about a half a point in his freshman year. Well, at 19.5 points he is what we would call an outlier. And the reason you should take this with a grain of salt.

I don't this doesn't come out as off-putting, but IMO we should just keep this thread to actual updates on Ben's health while avoiding playing doctor by trying to explain why, how, or what is going to come of Ben's current situation. I know that we are all on the same team, but we should stick to what we know based on the information that has been made public. I know that's not typically the spirit of a forum, but in this critical time, I don't think any of us want to give "opinion" on what may or may not be transpiring. This is an absolutely horrible situation, and I think we would all be best giving it space. Please continue to share updates, but let's not bring opinions or speculation into the picture anymore than necessary.

His ordeal is a good reminder to check the donor box on your driver's license and/or your health care directive. You never know when yourself or a loved one will need a transplant.

The gun

@Interviewed_at_Weehawken I blame you for bringing Jimmy over to the International forum that is usually a safe haven for the more intelligent crowd. You started a Jimmy style thread and desecrated a hallowed institution

Iowa State will find a way to lose this handily. On paper, they should have a very good chance to win. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Jordan will make a public announcement to clear this up right after his committee holds public hearings on how Joe Biden caused the Civil War and is responsible for Rabies and disease carrying Mosquitoes.

Happy Father's Day! This is what my son got me (he's 11)- it's awesome! A little book with 50 pages of things. Page 3 on the list below! How cool is that!!!

I was going through Euros and noticed Mongush and spencer had a common opponent and was diving a bit deeper into mongush and it made me think Worlds may not be the walk in the park I thought it was for Spencer but I wanted to set this up more like a dual format than just those two. 57kg: Lee (2x u20 world champ olympic silver) vs Mongush (u23 world champ 2025 senior euros champ) common opponent Bazargonov spencer won 6-3 Mongush won 5-0. Mongush also notably lost in the finals to to suda 8-8 at 61kg who is probably our 61kg's biggest opp at worlds. I will go spencer here but I think Mongush is his toughest opponent and he is on a pretty wild growth trajectory. 1-0 61kg: Jax/Vito (senior gold and bronze)/(cadet silver) vs Uguev(2x world 1x olympic gold at 57kg) Uguev still won euros this year in a controversial one to Haryutunyan. Suda that I mentioned above is probably our toughest opponent I think either guy we send beats Uguev. 2-0 65kg: Real (ranking series bronze) vs Mamedov (junior world champ senior bronze) I love Reals trajectory and how freely he has been wrestling but Mamedov is a very unique challenge that I do not think Real can overcome right now. 2-1 70kg: PJ (Junior bronze) vs Baev (world gold, junior gold, u23 silver) PJ's gives him a shot against anyone I think but Yianni got to his legs and finished pretty surgically once he got through the head hands and Baev is wrestling as good as anyone at any weight right now. I think Baev takes this one 2-2. 74kg: Carr (cadet bronze, Junior gold) vs sounds like sidakov will be going (3x world gold 1x olympic gold) Sidakov did lose to valiev at Euros prior to the injury which should give some hope that he is becoming more human. That being said Carr did not have many answers to Salkazonov who has always been a tier below sidakov so I am not ready to predict that level of upset until I see it. 3-2 Russia. 79kg: Haines (pan am champ) vs Usmanov (junior silver world gold) Usmanov is a monster I think Levis inexperience internationally may prove troublesome for him but a the same time he is going to present a pace that the European guys will not like. Usmanov is a monster though I would pick him against whomever America sent aside from maybe Kyle. 4-2 Russia. 86kg: Zahid (world bronze, junior silver) vs Naifanov/Kadiev (junior gold,u23 silver, 2x world bronze)/(2x junior gold) (the russians on X think Kadiev is the second coming however to my knowledge Naifonov beat him last time they wrestled and he was the rep at euros so I am expecting him to be there. Whoever they send I think Zahid is the best wrestler at this weight. The only question is if his cardio allows him to be the best for 6 minutes. 4-3 Russia 92kg: I am not sure who Russia sends here Karugliev is their best guy but he wrestles for greece Trent should clear whoever goes at this weight perhaps Kadiev bumps. 4-4 97kg: snyder vs Sadulaev we have seen this one before one guy appears to still be close to peak of his powers and the other has lost to a 20 year old from japan this year so I do not expect the upset we always hope for 5-4 Russia 125kg: Wyatt kills whoever they send 5-5

For U23 it had always been Senior National team members had first dibs on the spot, followed by the U23 champion. This year it was changed in adding the 4th in line for seniors at the weight prior to U23 National Champ. Couple of notes: - Seems obvious but many have asked.:If Jax passes on taking the U23 spot, No..Marcus Blaze cannot accept both the 61kg and 65kg spots for U23. One or the other or neither. -All signs point to Marcus not taking either spot and focusing on winning a U20 World Gold Medal. Blaze earned a bronze last year losing to eventual U20 Gold medalist, and senior champion Ono in the semis 7-2. Rumorville has echoed that the Penn St staff prefers he does focus solely on the U20 Worlds and passes on both U23 spots. -If this is in fact true in regards to the coaches preference..it could be sign for things to come. I am very curious on which NLWC guys accept their U23 dibs on their weights. U23 Worlds runs much later than U20 and even senior worlds -U20s August 20th-24th -Senior’s September 13th-18th -U23’s October 22nd-26th -First official day of NCAA wrestling practice is October 10th, with the first day of competition being November 1st. If they prefer that Blaze does not do U23, it could very well hint that he will be starting at 133 as a true freshman while Ono red shirts. PJ Duke has showed a great interest in competing in all 3 world championships. When asked yesterday on his flo interview about this, he said it had to be discussed with his coaches and family, however he did not rule it out. Furthermore, Kozalk asked him if he would possibly be going to the ranking series coming up. Duke responded that he most likely would not be, and he would rather wrestle in another world championships than do the ranking series as he still hunting for his first world gold medal. So will be interesting to see which of the NLWC accept the U23 spots. MM did last year earning a bronze. Maybe the Penn State coaches prefer just the two freshman pass on it, especially since they’re already competing another world championships. Or maybe they let them decide and rumorville is BS. if they do prefer they pass it obviously isn’t because they don’t want them missing the week of practice… I’m sure it would be more so a concern that they’re peeking you around and because of that won’t be at their best come March whether it be to the physical or mental toll it takes.

I think redshirting in general should be taken away. Also no more double holdbacks. Especially in the top prep schools. Most are a minimum of one year hold backs. Some are close to three years after they take a post graduate year. So as a red shirt freshman some if these kids/men are 22 years old! It simple is not right. Guys like Duke and Forrest would be 3 timers instead of 4 timers. I wish they would reign this practice in. Then half of the low level D1 guys who are sometimes only 17 are wrestling full grown men. So unfair man. But with all that said PSU is another problem. Like a dang monopoly. Senior world team members should not be redshirting. Go to another freaking team man!

Thank you, Flo and USA wrestling for not shoving Greco and Women’s wrestling down my throat. Beautiful pace of wrestling.

Officials have to make real engage there in my opinion he circled for the last 70 seconds.

What do you reckon Snyder doing to celebrate tonight?

I feel like a jerk for turning the conversation away from Askren, but this post hits on one of the most important lessons of my life. Nietzsche was wrong when he said, "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger" and believing him can lead to an insidious shame cycle. Sometimes what doesn't kill you now just makes you an easier target the next time.

Not a stupid question. There are lots of people who have to have a lung removed for a list of different reasons (cancer, trauma, infection, birth defects, etc). You can live a semi normal life with one lung. "The average lungs can hold about 6 liters of air. Living with one lung reduces this capacity by about 30 percent. That said, 70 percent functionality is still enough to oxygenate the body properly." https://integrishealth.org/resources/on-your-health/2024/november/can-you-live-with-one-lung

Vent=ventllator. It's a device that moves air into the lungs. Used when the lungs are unable to take in enough air on their own. ECMO=extracorporeal membrane oxygenation. It's an external device. Blood is pumped from the paitient into the ECMO machine which ooxygenates its and then pumps it back into the patient. It's like a set of external artificial lungs/heart. Could also be used if the heart is too weak to move the blood on its own.

Iran is vastly different from other Islamic Middle Eastern countries being that it has the strongest and most educated secular group that is itching to rid itself from fundamentalist. If the CIA and Mossad can engineer a revolution than we should be all for it. In the meantime send the B-52's, drop the bunker busters, call it a day, and walk away. I know this is hard for many of you anti Israeli death cult supporters but there are a lot of people in the Middle East that don't want to live under fundamentalist extremism

100%, I'm sure federal AG Pam Bondi was strong-armed by state Governor Hochul.

Was it a good idea to pretend to negotiate to lure Iran into thinking there was a deal on the table just to lull them into a galsnssnes of security so Israel could offensively bomb them with our sanction and then threaten to assassinate the leader of the country? Of course, otherwise his Infallible Donaldness wouldn't have done it! Statecraft 101! War is peace! Freedom is slavery! Ignorance is strength!

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What do we hear from D leadership every day all day? That Trump is a fascist, dictator wannabe, racist and all of MAGA are the same. All without any evidence. mspart

You just described constitutional government. Not monarchy. Big time FAIL there RV. mspart

Saying looks are a big part of Clark's endorsements is like saying Larry Bird became the face of Converse because of his vertical leap. Ooof. In both cases, it's just not there. If looks were that big of a part compared to skill in the endorsement disparity in the WNBA, Angel Reese would be cleaning the floor with Clark in endorsements. She is significantly more attractive than Clark, and only gets all those rebounds because she's following up her own missed layups, of which there are many.

So you finally admit Clark isn't getting all the endorsements and accolades because she is white?? But you still think she is making $11M solely because of her looks (which I personally don't think are that great), otherwise it'd be $1M solely on her abilities? Do you even step back and read the things you write...for someone who likes to throw the race card out there a lot, you sure don't have a problem saying a lot of sexist things. Clark is getting paid because she single handily has put the WNBA on the map as a semi-relevant sport...because of her amazing basketball skills...period!

Please, please, please, I beg you Trump supporters to support your president by signing up for this guaranteed to not be a sham service. For $499 you can get a phone made in the USA (wink, wink), and for $47.45 per month you can get phone service from providers that charge much more, for some odd reason, AND telemedicine, AND free perscriptions. Ignore that any single one of these services cost more. You will definitely get what you pay for. And if you do not get what you are promised, you can be certain that federal regulators will be all over this to make the company toe the line.

Another iconic photograph. A known top notch photographer on PSU got this image of high schooler PJ Duke in mid air after pinning Yianni D at Final X. Well done.

Mizzou gets Evan Bates in the portal at 197. This is interesting, where does he fit? 197, HWT. I am assuming Sinclair is 184, where and what does this mean for Bates and Hawks?

@Prego

I don’t disagree. With that said money will make it way worse over time imo. Plus plenty in the sport and on this board are beyond behind it. One guy skipped his first year of 8th grade (to take it again next year) to play video games…. So he could grow in the sport. I think that behavior is behind nonsense. It’s certainly not cheating…. But it’s 200% morally bankrupt.

i'm not arguing one way or the other, but we really don't know if this Vito is anything close to peak Vito

So I guess the answer is….no

His act can be funny but also a bit cringe, but...he's doing more good for people and the sport than almost anybody with his free camps program.

1 out of 1 of your last posts has been about me. Seek help.

Good response from Josh

Has Burroughs shirt been discussed? What is that style, business casual pirate?

This aged well.

In nearly ever match wrestled, regardless of style, both wrestlers go to the middle, and the ref raises the winning wrestler's hand. Again, I'm not going to make it into a bigger deal than it is, but I'm also not going to make an excuse for Barr running off the mat when he should have went to the middle and taken his loss.

Prolly not the wife

When David Carr was young, his grandmother sewed him a teddy bear. He has had the teddy in his wrestling bag for every event he has ever wrestled. Recently though, Metcalf brought his dog to practice, and the dog got a hold of the teddy bear and shredded it. Metcalf felt bad so he got the shoes custom made for David. Awesome to see that David won the tournament without his safety blanket in his bag. I like to think that when he pointed towards the sky after the match, he was pointing to that teddy bear.

Yeah, these will be tough matches for the Nits if they meet up with those guys at the 2026 NCAAs! Oh, wait...

The first question I asked of your data is who had the most success in the consolation bracket? Indiana's Brandon Becker was a three time All-American between 2005 and 2008, and he tore it up on the backside. Below are the top 10 all-time. JD Bergman is an interesting one, too. He is the only man to win 13 consolation matches in two tournaments combined.

LOL...some serious mental gymnastics going on with this statement. So an executive order is a sign that the President is trying to be a King?? Did the President get appointed or was he voted in? How many of the courts orders against him been overturned by a higher court?? Is the President doing what he said he would do on the campaign trail and hence what the majority of the people voted in favor of happening? Are these the things that makes him a King?

Social, Emotional, & Physical maturity. I drove to college on my 18th birthday. Being pushed back a year before the 6th grade would've done wonders for me in those areas. I would've hated it if I did it after that point.

Yes, that's right 1.3 million have paid the ultimate price. I have 24 direct members of my family who served in the Army since World War 1. We are the home of the free because of the brave. Thank you to all that have served this great country. Thank you to all families who have had to endure while their loved went off to war. Amen.

You only need to cut out one more letter. Petty dope.