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I didn’t start wrestling until 9th grade. Got better over the years and won a HS state championship my senior year of HS. In college, I had only one varsity college match. Freshman year at a NAIA/D3 school. I’m the backup 134. Last week of 1st semester. Coach says 142 has a 0.8 gpa and cannot wrestle. Off the team. Tells me I’m going to start my first match against WVU in 2 days. But…We’re putting the starting 134 in to win at 134/142 so I need to weigh in at 134. Match day. I get bumped to 142 against WVU starter. First period, I shoot a takedown in first 30 seconds, but WVU hits me in a cradle and I fight/flop for 2 ½ minutes to end the period down 0-5. 2nd period, I take bottom. I reverse WVU kid and throw in legs. Force a power half for 2 back! I’m only losing 4-5! Then… I get too high, WVU catches my head, pulls me over, and pins me. I come off the mat. Coach grabs me and says, “You scored! You scored!” and he's all excited. I’m pissed at coach. What the hell did he expect? Why is he so surprised? I’m supposed to score and try to win. But…I’m stupid and naïve. Find out later, my opponent: Scott Collins, WVU’s first National Champion. He was only a freshman that year and didn’t win D1 until his senior year, but I can say I scored 4 points against him

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Blake Boarman to Purdue

After the season in 2022, there was a ~"Move on, Mr Smith" thread either or here or 34 and counting. I allowed myself to fantasize out loud about Taylor before completely dismissing the idea. But . . . it happened. So maybe maybe maybe Arujau will forget all the nastiness surrounding that last match; decide cows and endless fields of brown are better than whaterfalls, evergreens, and all that other stuff where Dake goes to meditate; and decamp for Stillwater.

I'm more saddened that his birth year is 14 years after I graduated from high school

can confirm leadership from China reads this board.

The current weigh in system was created for athlete safety. There haven't been any catastrophic issues since the 90s, and that is good enough for me. There have been many studies where people had their weight checked matside at events to see what kind of fluctuation there is post weigh in. I'd be interested to see those results to know what we are actually talking about.

I think this entire thread is a setup. But at least it's one to talk about a worthy subject. The thread starter claims to be brand new to the sport but found their way to this forum. And as the thread has gone on they have talked about very specific wrestling things and even talked about listening to Jordan Burroughs on podcasts. Just tell us you want to talk about weight cutting. Don't create a fake persona to present it.

Ok, so why did ten year treasury yields go up to 4.5? There is something called the basis trade. Hedge funds borrow heavily to buy treasuries and sell a hedge like futures against the treasury. Because they borrow, or trade on margin to buy treasuries, they can get a margin call and be forced to sell their positions. As treasuries started selling off, everyone on the same side of this trade started getting margin calls, so there were forced to sell and it created a bit of a downward spiral.

Ayden Smith / Mason Gibson Dylan Shawver Joe Olivieri Andrew Clark Conner Harer Andrew Barbosa / Ryan Ford Lenny Pinto Shane Cartagena Walsh Remy Cotton Hunter Catka

W. O. K. E. N. E. S. S.

Nope ... that's not what happened.

I would have been considered an extreme right winger back in the 80s. Not anymore, since we've gone off the deep end to the right in this once great nation.

Counterpoint: it's still really early in the year so you might as well hit that deductible and out-of-pocket so you can get all the bonus procedures you've been putting off for years

every time I see Pan Ams I have a ptsd flashback of Retherford getting pinned while lacing him a guy yianni had teched days before....

This is somewhat long a perhaps strays a little from the original question, however….. It’s a foregone conclusion that cutting weight will always be an issue in the sport of wrestling. Changing the weight classes won’t stop athletes from losing a few pounds to make a weight several pounds below their natural weight. You may hear people say that weight cutting is a “black eye” on wrestling. Athletes in other sports cut weight too. Our society is loaded with overweight individuals and billions are spent on methods of losing weight. Virtually everyone can afford to lose a few pounds. In wrestling, it’s not the losing of weight that gives the sport a “black eye,” it’s the way people do it. The main problem coaches and athletes suffer from with regards to weight loss is lack education and discipline. With the exception of my tenth grade year, I have cut weight every year that I competed. The problem I saw in my peers was their ignorance on how to cut weight and their inability to discipline themselves to say within 5 pounds between competitions. That’s not to say I didn’t use plastics, or saunas (neither or which were illegal back then), or even binge-purge on occasion, but those techniques were few and far between, and I certainly don’t recommend them. The most valuable asset I had was the education about how to lose weight correctly, how to eat right, and using discipline to support that education. The three wrestling deaths in 1997 were a direct result of using drastic weight cutting measures in very short period of time, i.e., dehydration, saunas, plastic sweat suits, laxatives, diuretics. My high school coach was my dad and he was very educated on how to lose weight properly. He had a weight chart on his office wall and he monitored our progress. We had to record our pre and post practice weight under his watchful eye. He developed in his wrestlers the habit of starting to lose weight 45-60 days before the first weigh-in. Most wrestlers do several thing wrong when cutting weight. Many don’t start any serious cutting until the last couple of days before a competition. They dehydrate or starve themselves instead of practicing the discipline of losing permanent weight (body fat). Many bounce up 8, 10, and even 15 pounds after weigh-ins, and then try to lose the weight using the drastic measures and they don’t eat healthy foods or stay hydrated. Pre-season conditioning that included running for 45 minutes was actually my dad’s way of helping us burn off body fat. He explained that besides developing mental toughness, stamina, and discipline, long term endurance training was something we had to do if we wanted to lose weight correctly. He always wanted us 1-2 pounds under weight the day before weigh-ins. We learned exactly how much we would “drift” overnight. We had ample opportunities to weigh ourselves several times during the day, without interfering with classes, we knew exactly how much each article of clothing weighed, and how much weight we were drifting during the day. He would correctly predict that we could eat 2-3 pounds of food and water the night before and still be on or under weight for weigh-ins the next day. He would prescribe an evening meal of steak, baked potato, another vegetable, salad and a nice glass of milk or water. After weigh-ins he always fed the team a vegetable soup concoction that became known to opposing teams as “Super juice.” He wanted us to have something in our stomach that broke down quickly and was easily digested. He told us our stomachs have three layers of muscles that are used to digest food. Those muscles need oxygen to do their job and if there is food in your stomach when you go out to compete, there will be an O2 shortage for your brain and muscles. In those days, wrestlers had five hours to make weight. For example, if match time was 7:30, weigh-ins started at 2:30 and you had until 7:29 to make weight. I enjoyed watching many of my less disciplined opponents having to use some of that five hours running, exercising, or drilling to knock off those last few ounces or pounds. Energy that could have been used for the match was being used to lose weight. A rather unique strategy, I presumed. The day after a tournament or match, even if it was a Sunday, the team met at school to check our weight and we could not be more that 5 pounds over. Anyone who was over, stayed and worked out until his weight was ok. Because of history and tradition, it was rare that anyone was more than five over. The theory was simple. Once you make flat weight and stay within 5 pounds between weigh-ins, your body adjusts to living that way and when you come to practice, you can focus on technique, strategy and conditioning, and you aren’t worried about how much you have to lose or what you can’t eat or drink that night. As long as you followed the regimen, you could eat fairly normally. Learning this was even more valuable when we had to make weight multiple days in a row. Obviously, this requires a lot of mental toughness and discipline. Some of you may find fault with some of these concepts, and lots of things have changed over the years. One thing that hasn’t changed is the power of education and importance of supporting it with discipline. No, it wasn’t fun running for 45 minutes 6 days a week for a couple months and change my eating habits to make weight in December, but it allowed me to burn off permanent weight (fat) and further develop my endurance, stamina, and discipline. It also gave me a lot of time to contemplate how someone was going to pay for all these sacrifices. Condensed, my weight loss program started 45-60 days before the first weigh-in and it was facilitated with long-term endurance training to burn off fat. Once flat weight is made, stay within 5 pounds or less between weigh-ins. It will be difficult for several weeks but your body will adjust and it will be the new “normal.” Once we made flat weight, the rules allowed a 1 pound allowance in January, another pound in February, and another pound in March. They called it a "growth allowance." Then you got a pound for the second day of a tournament. So, you make 126 in Dec, 127 in Jan, 128 in Feb, 129 in March, and if you make it to the second day of a tournament, your get to make 130. State tournament rules also offered the opportunity to either weigh-in the night before or the morning of, each day of the tourney. That’s a great rule at any level. Wrestling season is long and grueling. It’s not losing weight that hurts performance and health as much as it is how you lose weight. Education and discipline are the keys.

Awesome story, I also started wrestling in 9th grade and also ended up with a State championship as a senior, though I ended up being a D1 practice dummy. I did beat an All American in practice once on the opposite of your story, he tried to throw in legs and got too high and I managed to pin him (I knew how to defend legs because as my screenname indicates I liked to ride legs myself)

We did scour the food buffets in Iowa and found Chris Taylor.

...the father stated something like : the worst my son could do is steal a car. Wow.

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My brisket always takes an overnight black cherry bath. Only two of us so just doing the flat. Tacos on the dock at sunset this evening. Hopefully its a slow day on the boards and yall are out enjoying this beautiful country.

thanks for sharing

I noticed Derek Fix is no longer listed on the website, but not sure when that happened

Not much talk about Lee Roper coming to OSU. I think this is good hire for them. He’s not really a big name, but they have the “star power” covered, so a coach with more experience and reputation as a good coach is just what they need. With this hire, what makes everyone so sure they are also replacing Gilman’s spot with someone else? Who is Roper replacing and where are they going?

He only coached, in season...

It’s all coming out a year and a half ago?

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Nice try Diddy. I don't have any tattoos

We already have a convicted felon as President and your panties are in a bundle over this Hunter guy? Hypocrisy at its best.

Both. The fact that all of those are happening concurrently is highly unusual and bad AND the unraveling bond market is the worst of all of them. It's not complicated. VERY simple for both to be true at same time.

She's already a known perjurer so zero credibility. That also doesn't provide any evidence whatsoever that any of that actually happened.

Handsome Tuesday is probably available

I thought one of the ideas was that matside weigh-ins would be in singlet, maybe even with the shoes on....weigh-in, go wrestle....

Your question is so fundamentally basic and simple. The answers you get will either 1) point to logistics difficulties, 2) worry about too many forfeits, or 3) in a subtle way defend weight cutting. My perspective - there is no good answer. The scales should be matside. Weight in can occur when on double deck. Fosters wrestling at a more natural weight.

The basis trade was pretty well blown up Thursday to Monday causing treasury yields to spike. The basis trade involves buying treasuries and selling futures against them. Pension funds and long only managers like to get exposure to treasuries via the futures rather than buying the cash bond because it is more capital efficient for them. As a result of that demand treasury futures trade at a slight premium to cash bonds. So hedge funds step in and borrow money to buy the bonds so they can sell futures to the buyers who want them. This is a massively levered trade. They effectively manufacture treasury futures. When other markets are going to hell and a hedge fund needs to raise money they tend to do it in the most liquid, safest market, which visits the problem onto that market too (contagion). As a result big chunks of the basis trade got unwound over the last few days. Add to that when we buy products from overseas a lot of those US dollars we spend get invested in treasuries. (We import goods and export financial products). If we aren't going to spend those dollars then the treasuries won't get bought. And the ones that are owned by foreigners tend to get sold. Trump hates this form of balance of trade. So it was a double whammy. Trump wants lower 10 year yields, and one theory of tariffs is that he is attempting to force Jerome Powell's hand to cut interest rates. No one thinks that is the only reason, or that Trump has coherent reasons, for tariffs, but that the tariffs had the opposite effect may go a long way to explaining the 90 day pause. And hopefully cause Trump to rethink (haha, that implies he thought in the first place) entering into The Dumbest Trade War In History.

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North Sentinel Island knows what the hell is going on I've been aware of that island for decades now, and whenever it makes the news it does so with a splash. Zero sympathy for the cultists that perished on the island, they've all been warned. I feel the same about people who visit other dangerous places and do stupid stuff. Check out the picture below. I'm told the islander was saying "come closer, white man, I want to show you my bow".

Y'all asked but you didn't like the answer. However, any Cornell insider would tell you the exact same thing.

Turns out? Were they right?

Unfortunately I couldn't beat a guy named Cael Sanderson. Lost to him in the 1991 Western Regional freestyle final (Boise, Idaho). Lost to him again at the NCAA tournament in 2001. The only solace is that he apparently beat everyone he wrestled.

Tyler Graff ended up having the best overall accolades. I beat him in Greco and ended up wrestling him in freestyle at the same tournament, he punished me for beating him. other notable losses of mine are Matt Kyler, Brian Owen, Tyler Caldwell, and Tony Mustari. I had been teched multiple times in my wrestling career, but the way Tony Mustari teched me was brutal. He could have been charged with assault and nobody would have questioned it.

It was 1910, on our family's homestead, when my father suddenly died of a heart attack under the oak in our front yard. The very next day a lightning bolt hit that same oak and spilt it in two. I took the wood from that Oak and made myself a bat. By the time I was 6 years old I could hit home runs off the High School pitchers in the area. At 12 a scout came to my town and told me I was the best he had ever seen. Packed my bags, boarded a train, and headed for NY to try out for the Yankees. On my travels I met a widow who seemed quite fond of me. Boy did I misread that. She came in to my sleeper car and put a bullet in my torso. Gasping for my last breath she revealed that she was a sorceress and would spare my life but only if I agreed to take the shape of a waste container and work the local carnivals in the midwest. Being young and foolish I agreed. Looking back I should've taken my chances with the netherworld. So yes, you can say I not only lost but I lost bigly

I don't have anyone but my kid has been beaten by Zach Elam, Rocky Elam, Colton Hawks, DJ Shannon, and Jack Flynn. Just off the top of my head. Lol. He was at a tough weight. He weighed 170lb-180lb all thru high school but we had no one at the heavier weights. So he wrestled 195lb and 220lb. Character building for sure.

Reese Andy (Wyoming) 3X All-American, 2X finalist.

Dave Sims in my best event 1500 free Mary T. Meagher in her best event 200 fly

The bonus percentage was quite close. The pin percent and dominance score was not at all. And sportsmanship - also not close. Honest question - Wrestler A majors 90% of his opponents. Wrestler B pins 75% of theirs. Are you going to call A more dominant? I hope not.

to conclude your analysis with bonus point percentage is to give pins and major decisions equal weight. That's a silly thing to do when determining who is the most dominant.

High school and college. There's nothing better than wrestling teammates for friends. My favorite story involved a wrestling teammate in college who put up posters around campus advertising a match between a bear and me at a local mall. Peer pressure being what it was, I agreed. When the time came, I showed up in my sweats, headgear and singlet, but the bear was a no-show. The mall manager said that he had stepped on glass the week before at another mall and therefore had to forfeit. Man 1, Beast 0.

I wrestled at Purdue for 3 years! I was a good HS wrestler who unfortunately was more interested in partying and being the man at night, not in the room, once I hit college. The lifestyle is incredibly demanding. 3 lifts, 7 practices, and individuals throughout the week in season. You don’t go home for winter break or summer vacation. You have to live and breathe Wrestling or you’re going to have a very bad time. Looking back I’m filled with lots of regret, but Ersland and Purdue wrestling helped shaped the man I am… it is what it is. I don’t drink now to make up for the lost time.