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Willie's "response", 'it's fine and we're not changing it.'

... the stream was down but were the pop ups still working?

If anyone needs to see the final scramble

I'm guessing you meant "rest of the match". I'll have to respectfully disagree. Those 3 periods was wrestling at its highest level.

Apparently so... D3

Rokfin put the matches on youtube. psu vs bing mizz vs littles

Anyone else having problems with the Rokfin feed?

Sam Hazewinkle. 4 total NCAA losses. Won 2012 olympic trials in FS and was 2008 olympic trials runnerup in GR.

I was that senior stud in my day... beat a future NJSIAA state runner-up, I did. (ps He was a freshman at the time, though. Still developing... ) D3

Maybe a better name would have been Undefeated JV Wrestler as I was 3-0 at JV my freshman year (my coach took pity on me and had me duck a few senior studs)

What a match. Did not disappoint whatsoever. Low scoring but man both guys were super active in the hand fight and looking to score, especially in the second and third. I was shocked at how much bigger Levi looked than Keegan. It looked like a 165 wrestling a 174 which I didn't expect, as Askren has often commented on how Keegan is plenty big enough for 174. I certainly don't feel any more confident going into their next match. But that was a treat of two amazing wrestlers going after it.

There are four seniors (among others) who have an opportunity to win their first championship if they can outplace two returning champions. In order of likelihood: Bartlett, over Menendez and Allirez (possible) Hamiti, over Haines and O’Toole (possible, I think) Hendrickson, over Steveson and Kerkvliet (very unlikely) Plott, over Starocci and Keckeisen (not really a possibility) Two questions: I’m sure there have been a bunch of wrestlers who have won over two returning champions, for example Starocci last year. But has there ever been anyone who has won their first title over two prior champions? If one of the above were to run go undefeated, continue/improve their high bonus %, and take out both previous champions in the semis and finals, would they be a frontrunner for the Hodge? Note: although I give Bartlett a higher chance because he was one scramble away from being a returning champion, my gut tells me that Hamiti has jumped levels and could take out both Haines and O’Toole. Please forget this prediction in the likely event that this does not happen.

Sakamoto is enrolled at Okie state and just won what I believe to be japans version of nationals someone correct me if I'm wrong please. He is currently red shirting but the DT effect seems to just keep spreading.

Starting at 197... Knop NC St vs Dellagatta of Cornell. Sr vs Fr. D3

I wonder what the rule is if you're tangled like a pretzel, you have the leg, the other guy has your arm pulled and the other guy kicks over and wrap 2 boots in for a second while on the mat. It felt like no control to a neutral viewer who doesn't know criteria. Slow match but wow they saved some explosiveness for OT. O'Toole looks small but wow his technique is solid!

This is the most reasonable and thought out mandate of this decade - perhaps of all time including the ten commandments. And will lead to less human misery than all of the other mandates combined.

I think he’s generally a straight shooter and doesn’t usually let his bias get in the way of opinions on referee calls after the fact.

You think Askren may side with Haines on the TD? If you’ve listened to him talk about his guys enough, I think that’s unlikely. Either way it was really close.

Seems like it

O'Toole v Haines maxed out at 2400. Rokfin must be using my old desktop as a server.

Got a degree from Michigan, wanted something new? Lots of grad transfers. That said, he would be the starter at 125 for UM this year, easily. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Extra matches!

mizzou not using Sinclair there is weak sauce

Yianni got double boots in over the top in the NCAA finals to force OT against McKenna I believe in 2019? super similar situation but people said it should not have been a takedown for Yianni it was not ruled one here idk.

@BruceyB there you go. The mat wrestling/scrambling was the difference

Summary of the match: Levi feigning shots to get KOT to shoot so he can counter. KOT trying to resist the urge to shoot off the fakes. Each guy committed to one real shot in regulation that ended in quick stalemates. The OT sequence was fun, at least.

Electrifying 141 first period.

Chill, bro. It's Sunday. Have some whiskey and steak

Pretty sure 6.

Retiring for the evening people... Guten Abend! D3

It stopped since the stream is back up on Rokfin.

The word underwhelming comes to mind with regard to Saunders, but at least he stopped the bleeding.

Kai is back down at 133?

Bob only gave me 15 minutes that scoundrel and the popups kept messing up my reply had to retype and thus errows.

Who’s Burrows?

On the topic of best wrestlers not to win in last 20 years, honorable mention to Kolin Moore. Solid 4 year career, but after Bo Nickal graduated he was unstoppable his senior year and I thought would have been gauranteed to win if tournament was not canceled. But I also thought Myles Martin was a sure thing the year before, before Dean (I think) upset him.

I can see it just fine. Here's a screen capture...

Strange... I'm looking at it as plain as day, myself. Both my post AND your reply above. (Try a different browser?) D3

D3

Jim Gibbons Iowa St 1981 134. Bracket had returning champs Darryl Burley and Randy Lewis. Gibbons beat Lewis in quarters and Burley in finals. Zach Roberson Iowa St 2004. 133 bracket had returning champs Travis Lee and Johnny Thompson. Roberson beat Lee in semis, did not face Thompson.

Brandon Sorensen and Michael kemerer

I would put Tyler Caldwell, Dylan Ness, and Trent Hidlay up there as two time runner-ups and four time AAs. For guys who also got it done on the international scene I would include Myles Amine, Sebastian Rivera, and James Green. Greatest brother pair has to be Hayden and Trent Hidlay. Both four time AAs.

It is the first stage of their two stage trials process I believe. After that is the Meiji cup in the middle of the year. If you win both you are on the team. If there are different winners then the winners of the two tournaments have a wrestle off. Not sure what/any advantage returning medalists get outside of olympic years where you are automatically on the team if you medal. Higuchi , Ono, Kiyooka, Aoyagi and Takatani were their 5 five freestyle medalists in the olympics and worlds this year and only Aoyago competed here. He was able to win 70kg.

... follow the money ...

Yeah, getting paid to hobnob in the Bahamas? I’m kinda jealous.

I think I explained this a while back in another thread. I started wrestling as a freshman in high school, and I was thrown to the wolves right away as I was the best option at varsity. I won a few but lost many. Then steadily got better, finished over .500 for my 4 years but first season skewed my winning percentage

Pardon my having fun here... your forum name, if I'm guessing correctly, describe you as a .500 wrestler in your past wrestling days, yes? I was above average and good looking on the Lake Wobegone HS wrestling team... D3

Ed Hamer Lehigh 1959 167. Beat Duane Murty Ok State champ 1958 in semis. Finals beat Tom Alberts Pitt champ in 1957.

I was just rewatching some recent NCAA finals, and obviously it's nothing new, but when did we decide that blatant stalling is acceptable as long as they don't do it for more than 5 seconds? This is the most obvious in rideout scenarios where a wrestler will drop to a leg, wait for the referee to count to 4, climb up, and then once bottom wrestler starts working up again, drop back down for an additional 4 count. It seems so blatantly obvious that the top guy is not only not looking to turn, but is not even putting on an actual ride, but just clinging to an ankle. If nothing else, the most simple answer seems to be to not have a verbal count that informs the stalling wrestler how much longer they have before the call comes, but to stay silent and at least let an internal clock count for the top wrestler. Referees don't count out loud when the bottom wrestler gets to their feet and the top wrestler needs to return them.. why do referees treat the drop down differently? There are plenty of stalling scenarios I have gripes with, but the fact that in certain situations, the stalling wrestler is given a "countdown warning" but in many others they are not, seems very arbitrary. Before warning a top wrestler that is riding parallel, or a bottom wrestler that isn't improving their position, why don't they get a countdown before stalling is granted? This applies to so many scenarios.. Maybe it's too much for one thread, but it's similar to how a wrestler can hold position without taking a shot for the first three minutes of a match and end the first 0-0 without a warning, but if a wrestler has the lead with 30 seconds to go and holds position, they can get dinged twice for stalling because the desperate wrestler is shooting/moving forward (ala Carter Young vs McDougald last week). I would love to hear other's thoughts on these scenarios and if/how they could be improved. PS: as a new member, I am happy to have a place to discuss wrestling. I have long time friends that I wrestled with in high school, but they were never "fans" of the sport. It's fun to hear the thoughts and share thoughts with others who have such a love for the sport.

I foresee David Taylor succeeding in having his wrestlers ready for March much in the way that Cael does. Hamiti looked so great in the tech fall against the #4 guy from Virginia Tech at the weight class. If he continues rolling, things will be extremely interesting in March. If he's rolling, he could take out both of these guys.