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I don't understand. The two things were separate. Pyles apologized, said it was there error. Separately, he (rightfully) called out the white knighting of people who claimed they were so aghast at the error and how it ruined Blaze's moment, all while conveniently amplifying the news so MORE people saw it (thus exacerbating Blaze's perceived loss) just to dunk on Flo/get the street cred. He never said it was other people's fault that Flo screwed up. The way people act as apology police is insane to me. "He apologized, but not in the exact way I arbitrarily wanted him to!"

that its Elon is a secondary topic. 1) They are starting a Department of efficiency and 2) You don't like who is leading that department many of you nitwits are suggesting the department is unnecessary at all despite obvious incompetence, waste, and corruption for years, even self reported like in the above link on point 2 there are infinite avenues of inquiry into government waste. being utterly concerned with the 5 instances where Elon may have a conflict of interest is either sheer stupidity or simple stubbornness

so basically "its not our fault for leaking it, its your fault for seeing it". That isn't a good point, its blaming someone else for your screw up.

Mendez looking good ... Powe running out of gas.

... we got geek announcers tonight.

^^^This^^^

Yup. A mistake anyone could make. The sport needs more people like Kozak.

April 2022 (several months before the purchase was finalized)

I have empathy for people who do things prematurely.

It was 2001, not 2007. We did so with 0 finalists, with Leroy Vega, Jared Lawrence, Luke Becker, Brad Pike, Owen Elzen and Garrett Lowney all losing in the semis(3 in OT). Damion Hahn and Brett Lawrence had to fight back a long way to AA

Release the report. Gaetz needs to go through the same hellish nightmare confirmation hearing as all the rest will. If he did nothing wrong, that should be in the report. mspart

The made a mistake and announced something that was going to be announced anyway, prematurely. Whooptie-doo! There are far too many real problems in the world to spend actual energy worry about something like this. Y'all should take this energy down to your local old folks homes/children's hospitals and go visit some people.

Not if it’s on tik tok

The world, and the wrestling community, is full of real problems. This is not one of them.

It was, "chicken shi te" of Pyle and Spey to say anything other than, 'Sorry, we messed up.' How anyone can defend them by using this, 'white knight' BS or any other nonsense is as silly as me responding again...

They announced something prematurely. They apologized to the family. The family said its fine, no problemo. This should be the end of the story, but random people online are still losing their minds over it.

Why does Flo have so many haters? Is it just the 10 minute soliloquys and occasional poor live feeds or is it something more?

the left just aren't serious about anything. you got a million people including Vak, here, and liz cheney on twitter say 'how can it be efficient if there are two people for one role' i mean, you can't be serious. you guys are aware that DEPARTMENTS have more than one person, right? and that Elon and Vivek don't need the money. just say you're tribal, and move on. b/c you make yourself look silly. the American people pay in obscene amounts of money and politicians spend it with the indiscretion of a child. again, no one that pushes back on this has a serious argument. it's insanity. leftist tears and nothing else.

All these things can be true at the same time: CP's finger pointing/deflection is super lame, and Flo's attempt to own the mistake via him and Spay was mostly halfa$$ed. ...AND... Whenever Flo screws up, there is mad rush to the interwebs to amplify it to the wrestling world and to build their own online cred. Some people really, really enjoy it. Most were not as upset about the mistake as they where about thrilled about the opportunity to take it to Flo again. That's pretty lame too.

What a bunch of bellyachin'

He's not just plain boiled potatoes, he's plain boiled potatoes pretending to be duck a l'orange in an incredibly time consuming fashion while constructing its own echo chamber and stultifying the promotion of the sport at its most significant media outlet.

David Taylor's coaching debut... OSU against Pendleton's Alma Mater.... some good story lines and some good matchups.

Perhaps, they will include him if he is that good. I just don't see where cutting wasteful spending is a bad thing, no matter who does it. You are more interested in the who, I am more interested in the get 'er done. mspart

The first Fidel was bad enough...now a second one?

They've missed a couple minor things but really pretty good.

Yes they are but did you see video of them before match?

They seem very well prepared, but perhaps not wrestlers themselves seeing how they have said things like "player" instead of "wrestler". but I agree they're doing a good job

This ref is slow.

I boldfaced the part that I was feeling. Everyone makes mistakes. Obviously this wasn't calculated. It's a good thing to give grace to others if you ever expect grace in return.

Ok evidence ^^^ that Matt can make good decisions.

Tough pull for Gaitan down to 165 or has Euton just gotten that much better? That is a surprising result to me. Gaitan was R12 at 174 last year.

"credibly accussed" is that a new legal standing of guilt in the US? Was there a trial which decided it was "credible?" I'm not in favor of Gaetz for this appointment but c'mon there have to be some better fact based arguments.

This internet user is now gonna White Knight Pykes for him White Knighting Internet Users for White Knighting Flo. Just own it for God's sake. You started all this when you F'd up.

The only thing conflicted I see is the mental gymnastics people are doing about this topic. Even better is when people claim others don't know what they are talking about and then post a half page dissertation about a subject that they themselves clearly don't have a clue about. Quite humorous.

I'm guessing they will use him for a few key duals (maybe Neb, Iowa, tOSU, Mich, SDSU) where a forfeit could make the difference in the dual. The press release said they expect him for Campbell on 11/24, who has AA Ghadiali at Hwt. More information about his schedule has been said to come out on Monday.

This is 100% on Flo for jumping the gun and they did undercut the moment for Blaze. That's not really debatable, even if you think you knew what his decision was going to be. It's bad form and they, rightfully, apologized and edited the article online - but this is the internet and the internet never forgets. They are considered a legitimate source of wrestling news, so when they post it, people tend to believe it, run with it and comment. The need a better editorial process in their line of business. People who called them out for it did amplify it - but it still isn't their fault Flo posted it. There are people who like to dunk on Flo and call out their errors and that doesn't make Flo happy. Flo shouldn't be upset at people calling out the error, they should fix the error (they did) and the process that leads to these type of errors. The dunkers are trolls and have internet platforms that allow them a disproportionate voice to harp on even the smallest of errors, but that's the world we live in. Mistakes will happen. They happen in every industry, every day. But Flo can't be so thin-skinned that it can't take deserved criticism without blaming someone else for something. Don't externalize your mistake. Own it, apologize and move on.

I'm bringing my son Sunday. He was always more of a football guy (probably from growing up in Texas), but we made the trip to Corvallis in March for Pac 12s and he had a blast. He can't wait for Sunday.

Also. 0 of the lefties made a comment on this thread. So far. @VakAttack @ThreePointTakedown @RockLobster @Wrestleknownothing @Tripnsweep

And anyone who followed those orders should be fired also. Summarily. It is illegal to follow unlawful orders.

This: Musk said on X that he'll launch a "leaderboard" to track spending and crowdsource ideas for cuts. SNL will have to much material lol. so many folks are going to hate him for this…. Calling out the crazy spending the gov does on total nonsense. This may be fun.

The public. A lot of the public are tired of career gov politicians not doing anything. The left just hates Elon. They don’t like his success. They don’t like he’s a billionaire. And they don’t like that he let’s republicans speak on social media. Your billionaires / wealthy politicians are cool….. no bubbles no troubles with them. Don’t hear about the head of Netflix… or LinkedIn or Msft or the several Facebook billionaires or jb pritzker or penny pritzker or Rick Caruso or mark dayton or Jared polis or Nancy pelosi ….. You may have to put a seat belt on for the next 4 years if this is the worst thing Trump will do (from the lens of the left). Maybe they hate him because he used to be on the left…. Like all of those that moved right because the left politics are getting more and more “whatever”…. Anyone who has left team left seems to be shunned pretty aggressively. does George Soros pay his fair share of federal taxes? Did he pay income tax in 2016 or 17 or 18? Not a lot of press on that dude. Weird don’t ya think ?

He may be a nutcase. Not defending him. Pyle still wanted to blame the folks that posted about it instead of just taking the blame like an adult. He used the, 'yeah but what about them defense.' It's childish and comes off weak. We wouldn't be talking about it if Pyle said, "we ***ducked** up" and left it at that.

It's not the most competitive matchup but I'm excited to go watch OSU vs OSU in corvallis. It's an easy drive from Seattle for me and it's about the best wrestling that we can watch in the Pacific Northwest.

Christian is not near as bad as some of these guys make him out to be. Not my favorite, but certainly not the worst.

There was a scene in the White House today that hopefully a whole lot of people will take notice, demand it be the new way, and follow the lead....

Martin Flo seems to have A LOT to say about this one.... https://x.com/martinoflo/status/1856806932855886282

The office that is already in place does not seem to be doing a very good job. Matter of fact they are doing a piss poor job. Trying to cut back on government programs is going to be met with a great deal of resistance. It might take an Army to pull their funds from their cold dead hands.

Do some research. No one cares what you are "sure" of.

"Bo Bassett down to 13 schools and some posters are still claiming that Bassett is only 13 years old"

It may be funny that it takes 2 people to find inefficiencies. But what if they do? There has never been a serious effort such as this to find wasteful spending and innefficiencies. What if they are successful? Would that be a bad thing? What is the real problem here? mspart