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if you don't want to engage in wrestling talk until January, then shut up.

Wasn't sure if this was posted somewhere else. Saw this post online about Yianni after the loss.... Much respect for the young man.... still my pick to win it.

Good question. I calculated the probability any one seed ends as an AA based on results from 2010 - 2022. This is what that looks like: If you just count the wrestlers ranked 8 or higher, it ignores the fact, for example, that of the last 120 wrestlers seeded 8, only 60 finished in the top 8. Even a 1 seed is not a guarantee to finish as an AA, historically. So, I sum the probabilities associated with each team's current rankings (thereby equating ranking to seed). In that way you get expected AA. So a change of 0.1 can be thought of as a team increasing the probability that one of their wrestlers will AA by 10%. This is roughly the same as having a wrestler move from a 5 seed to a 4 seed. Thanks for asking @Crablegs, sometimes I rush to the final thought without posting all the ones that came before.

imagine being so enlightened that you come on a wrestling message board and suggest you not worry about talking wrestling for a few months. genius.

The staff has been together a long time. They clearly mesh well together. And they appear to be better than everyone else at being able to work with the different styles of very talented wrestlers. Definitely not one size fits all. They seem to start with the premise that they need to adapt their coaching to the athlete, not make the athlete learn to wrestle in the program's style. We snickered at RBY putting his arm behind his back but they were working through a problem based on what that wrestler could do then.

Several guys appear to be out for Iowa, I think Penn has a chance. Probables: https://pennathletics.com/news/2022/11/25/15th-ranked-wrestling-heads-to-2-iowa-for-first-dual-meet-of-the-season.aspx My predictions: 125: Miller maj Harris 4-0 Penn 133: Colaiocco dec Schriever (tossup?) 7-0 141: Ferrante dec Bennett 10-0 149: Murin dec Zapf (tossup) 10-3 157: Artalona dec Rathjen/Siebrecht 13-3 165: Kennedy dec Revano 13-6 174: Incontrera maj Rhodes 17-6 184: Assad maj Hale 17-10 197: Warner dec Urbas 17-13 285: Cassioppi fall Goldin 19-17 Iowa Could come down to Murin/Zapf and/or bonus 3 PM on B10+

@MPhillips Only got to a few concerts back then. Too busy chasing the dollar bill and raising kids. Time flies.

149 is gonna be the dual right?

my suspicion is being confirmed by Marinelli saying "in high school" they used to train for a single wrist.

A few good duals have been really screwed up by this. I'm sure you remember VT/tOSU, one match dual and it felt like it was over half way thru.

And after wrestling at Cyclone he jumped 5 weights to wrestle Penn. I assume brothers.

I appreciate the in depth answer. I'll respond in a bit when I've had time to read your links in full. I'm at a wrestling fundraiser/recruitment event today.

I can't find any way to reconcile the views of the right with their claimed desire for a decrease in government intrusion into people's lives. Must be me.

The secret sauce is Cael! The reason why? I can't say for sure. Penn State wrestlers speak of FUN and being grateful to God. I'd say that's the start of the secret sauce.

No. BTN+ https://www.bigtenplus.com/en-int/playerpage/1551892

I find a ton of inconsistencies with many who claim to be "pro-life," which is why pro-birth is more fitting for the vast majority of them. I didn't need to look any further than right here in Iowa over the past two years to see those colors fully reveal themselves.

Why would assume that he was rich and then if he was so what? I know of the family and I never thought of them rich or poor nor did I care, just quiet genuinely really good people. Vic is a hammer on top and will keep scores close because of his skills on top. Needs to develop more confidence on his feet and then will get to the AA level.

Those are all good questions. There is some good talent at 157 in the room. Would like to see how Steed develops, plus Fisher and Gioffre are tough but need to take another step. Mauller wrestled 157 last year but I thought he was small. Whiting has great positioning but needs to work on attacks. Sinclair is a stud but I have not seen him go so I can’t give any thoughts in honesty. Depends on his transition to the next level. Cliché I know, but some can make the jump and others it takes awhile. Hawks I would love see get a shot at 184. Any of our 184 guys going up by next year are going to be undersized. More to ask coach, see if he will give any insight. There’s always a plan but you well know in wrestling lots can happen. Thinks don’t always shake out how we would like.

The thing that always annoys me about that pic, is that they stole the idea from my wife and I.

Good call. Really makes you think the whole nostalgia over that 149 class is a bit overblown. There are a lot of weights that have 4-5 future champs/finalists in them. Judging how tough a weight is by future placements is really pretty dumb. Why did everyone start thinking this was a good way to look at it?

Looks like he has the skills but the Minny dual next weekend should tells us where he is at.

Correct. He apparently won a closed door wrestle off, had an unimpressive win in his first dual, and has not been seen since. Edit: seen wrestling for Iowa... I don't think Brands like killed him or amything...

Teske (wrestle off winner) and Woods have something minor. Nelson Brands was in a car accident and is recovering from surgery. Lee will be out until he is needed and Ayala is recovering from surgery as well (tore his pec in his first varsity match) and is redshirting.

Good call! It looks like Reiss (NC St) did not even place that year. I guess once every 40 years is worthy of note, eh?

Smelled like hippies and dope... https://liveforlivemusic.com/news/grateful-dead-5-8-77-cornell-greatest-performance/

I was there 40 (+) years ago, and we never called it Barton Hole. Ran track for four years there.

Fair enough. But the point is that there isn't evidence to support many of the restrictive (and some would say unethical) policies that were instituted. The burden of proof is on someone to prove the aforementioned points of the consensus narrative to justify implementation of such policies. And just an FYI, to think that peer-review serves as some bulwark against fraudulent and incorrect manuscripts reaching publication is a quaint notion. Nevertheless, here is some literature. Covid mandates for college-age students. A number of the researchers on this paper are highly cited, at top institutions and have sterling reputations. The myocarditis signal in young men taking mRNA vaccines was known very early on in Israel and people raising this issue on social media were often deemed to be spreading "misinformation": https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4206070 Risks associated with covid which was a critical determinant of the implementation of restrictive measures: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.10.11.22280963v1 Not "peer-reviewed" yet. Medrxiv allows scientists to post papers prior to publication so that people can have timely access to research of interest. The corresponding author (John Ioannidis) is one of the most highly cited researchers in the last century. I highly doubt the conclusions of this paper will be much different after peer-review. John Ioannidis suffered the wrath of the covid consensus because he published a paper early in the pandemic suggesting the infection fatality rate was much lower than originally suggested. He ended up being correct. Covid origins are far from settled: https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2202769119 Incidentally, much of the groundwork for identifying inconsistencies in the government(s)-narrative of covid origins has been from the Twitter hive-mind. Truly a sight to behold for those with the interest and patience. It makes the JFK assassination look tame by comparison. School shutdowns have been disastrous for children, particularly those from disadvantaged backgrounds. The repercussions will be felt for years to come. One of the many disgraces (and perhaps the most unforgivable) of the public health profession during this pandemic. This was predicted and predictable: https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2022376118 There was never any proof that the covid vaccines prevent the vaccinated from infecting others so there can be no paper proving this. However there is plenty of documentation that this assertion was made (if it hasn't been conveniently deleted). Here's an example of what I mean: You can't even access the article because it has been deleted. The Winston Smiths of the world have been busy! You can find for yourself the death statistics for Sweden, a country that was almost unanimously condemned (and criticized by Trump!) for not implementing large-scale lockdowns. Their death rate is in line with other Scandinavian countries and is on the low end of Europe. In the United States, Florida was derided for their open policies. When you adjust for age (the single biggest risk factor) their death rates are in line with California. This virus is going to do what the virus is going to do, restrictions be damned. And soon enough the same can be said for China. It is just a matter of how much collateral damage they will incur before they acquiesce. And as far as justification of restrictions--a recently deposed Anthony Fauci claimed his support of lockdowns (he also claims he never supported lockdowns--which is it Tony?) came from his colleague's (Clifford Lane) first-hand account of his time in China. LOL. Like the United States could (or should?!) impose obvious violations of human rights to stop the spread of a virus that was obviously unstoppable at that point. Sadly, you cannot find (or at least very difficult to find) this in the NY Times and Washington Post. Apparently they don't think this is newsworthy, further demonstrating the bias in reporting. You can go to the Twitter accounts of those with first-hand involvement. This is one of the wonders of Twitter-- notable, true information is available and TPTB cannot stop it from being disseminated. We should celebrate this, not hope for Twitter's demise because the CEO is a jerk. This is 10 minutes of searching. I can go on indefinitely with this. Assuming it isn't written by the CCP, history will judge this period--and the technocrats responsible for it--rather harshly. And IMO, the Twitter hive-mind has been instrumental for the truth to have a chance to come to light. This should be protected at all costs. The antidote to misinformation is not censorship but to combat it with true information. There is no other way in a free society.

that you listen to/like that npr woke drivel is the least surprising thing ever. you're a cliche.

lol. npr is god awful state media. literally.

Yet another from Ioway.

To paraphrase Ty Webb, he's a tremendous fart.

NPR is toast. https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/3551625-the-time-has-come-defund-the-hopelessly-biased-npr/amp/ https://www.quora.com/Why-dont-people-like-NPR

Semantically correct. +1 you win the day, just like Mocco back in 2008.

That may be the way for you, but why do you want to force everyone to live your way? I thought that was one of the right's big objections is that the left is trying to tell you how to live... Seems hypocritical to me.

Will do

1982 177 bracket had Schultz, Banach, Reiss who all had titles prior to that year

Yes agreed, lighter coaches more influence over lighter guys and heavier coaches more influence over heavier guys. But all work very well in their roles.

2008, 149 weight class had about 6 NCAA finalists I believe. Metcalf, Schlatter, Burroughs, Churella, Jenkins, Caldwell, Palmer, etc.

I also was there when Gomez beat Yianni 11/19 at Cornell. Robert Owens was 100% correct about Yianni's demeanor toward the end of the match, and after the match. He was total class. I would add that I thought Gomez's actions during and after the match were very classy. He didn't get in Yanni's grill afterward, just shook hands. He did taunt the (extremely vocal) crowd slightly after the match, but considering the magnitude of the upset I'd say his celebration was very low-key. He then went over to his teammates and celebrated with them. Considering the atmosphere, I'd say Chris Bono and his whole team were pretty classy before, during, and after the entire dual. (I was initially confused by his referring to the match as part of a tournament. It was a dual, Wisconsin v Cornell. Then I realized this must have been written by someone who may be unfamiliar with wrestling lingo.)

"I hope you had a helluva piss Arnold!" Classic Movie!

This doesn't surprise me at all. He has always given off that vibe of servant leadership.

something about a horse and water?

Like many of you, I was very concerned when our previous Forum decided to close its doors. Now that we've been in our new home (asylum?) for a little while, I have found myself very happy. I think all my previous amigos are here and maybe some new ones. Other than one speed bump in the beginning, the transition for me has been smooth and that's quite an accomplishment. (Thanks @GreatWhiteNorth for getting me over that.) We have everything we had before, plus the Club Forums, plus a place to argue politics, plus some other cool things. What's to not like? I'd like to thank whoever made it happen, I believe @Husker_Du and @BobDole. Please feel free to correct me or add to the list. Even though I've been around these parts for a while, I still don't know who's who. Anyway, Thanks! BP

Secret Sauce = Cael Sanderson simple answer

Who would’ve thought that RBY and Gilman would make each other better? Or that DT and Jaime Espinal would make Nickal and Brooks and Dean better? Or Bekzod would make Nolf and Cenzo and Starocci better? Or that Varner and Snyder would make Kerkvliet better? There were 7 Olympic medalists in that room last year. Seven. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Alternative theory: the best want to be with the best. Best coaches, best training partners, best RTC. It becomes a virtuous cycle.

He'd get killed with a real current pro boxer. He knows it and that is why he steers clear of it. He has made more than most fighters make as a living. He's smart and using what he has to make money. People want to pay to watch, then all the better for him. He looked like he got a good right in on Silva to knock him down. mspart