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if you don't want to engage in wrestling talk until January, then shut up.

Wasn't sure if this was posted somewhere else. Saw this post online about Yianni after the loss.... Much respect for the young man.... still my pick to win it.

Good question. I calculated the probability any one seed ends as an AA based on results from 2010 - 2022. This is what that looks like: If you just count the wrestlers ranked 8 or higher, it ignores the fact, for example, that of the last 120 wrestlers seeded 8, only 60 finished in the top 8. Even a 1 seed is not a guarantee to finish as an AA, historically. So, I sum the probabilities associated with each team's current rankings (thereby equating ranking to seed). In that way you get expected AA. So a change of 0.1 can be thought of as a team increasing the probability that one of their wrestlers will AA by 10%. This is roughly the same as having a wrestler move from a 5 seed to a 4 seed. Thanks for asking @Crablegs, sometimes I rush to the final thought without posting all the ones that came before.

imagine being so enlightened that you come on a wrestling message board and suggest you not worry about talking wrestling for a few months. genius.

The staff has been together a long time. They clearly mesh well together. And they appear to be better than everyone else at being able to work with the different styles of very talented wrestlers. Definitely not one size fits all. They seem to start with the premise that they need to adapt their coaching to the athlete, not make the athlete learn to wrestle in the program's style. We snickered at RBY putting his arm behind his back but they were working through a problem based on what that wrestler could do then.

Several guys appear to be out for Iowa, I think Penn has a chance. Probables: https://pennathletics.com/news/2022/11/25/15th-ranked-wrestling-heads-to-2-iowa-for-first-dual-meet-of-the-season.aspx My predictions: 125: Miller maj Harris 4-0 Penn 133: Colaiocco dec Schriever (tossup?) 7-0 141: Ferrante dec Bennett 10-0 149: Murin dec Zapf (tossup) 10-3 157: Artalona dec Rathjen/Siebrecht 13-3 165: Kennedy dec Revano 13-6 174: Incontrera maj Rhodes 17-6 184: Assad maj Hale 17-10 197: Warner dec Urbas 17-13 285: Cassioppi fall Goldin 19-17 Iowa Could come down to Murin/Zapf and/or bonus 3 PM on B10+

@MPhillips Only got to a few concerts back then. Too busy chasing the dollar bill and raising kids. Time flies.

149 is gonna be the dual right?

my suspicion is being confirmed by Marinelli saying "in high school" they used to train for a single wrist.

A few good duals have been really screwed up by this. I'm sure you remember VT/tOSU, one match dual and it felt like it was over half way thru.

And after wrestling at Cyclone he jumped 5 weights to wrestle Penn. I assume brothers.

I appreciate the in depth answer. I'll respond in a bit when I've had time to read your links in full. I'm at a wrestling fundraiser/recruitment event today.

I can't find any way to reconcile the views of the right with their claimed desire for a decrease in government intrusion into people's lives. Must be me.

The secret sauce is Cael! The reason why? I can't say for sure. Penn State wrestlers speak of FUN and being grateful to God. I'd say that's the start of the secret sauce.

No. BTN+ https://www.bigtenplus.com/en-int/playerpage/1551892

I find a ton of inconsistencies with many who claim to be "pro-life," which is why pro-birth is more fitting for the vast majority of them. I didn't need to look any further than right here in Iowa over the past two years to see those colors fully reveal themselves.

Those are all good questions. There is some good talent at 157 in the room. Would like to see how Steed develops, plus Fisher and Gioffre are tough but need to take another step. Mauller wrestled 157 last year but I thought he was small. Whiting has great positioning but needs to work on attacks. Sinclair is a stud but I have not seen him go so I can’t give any thoughts in honesty. Depends on his transition to the next level. Cliché I know, but some can make the jump and others it takes awhile. Hawks I would love see get a shot at 184. Any of our 184 guys going up by next year are going to be undersized. More to ask coach, see if he will give any insight. There’s always a plan but you well know in wrestling lots can happen. Thinks don’t always shake out how we would like.

Same for me … poor….. worked and saved my money to go to a Cowboy camp with Mike sheets, Eddie wood burn and Cory Baze.

The thing that always annoys me about that pic, is that they stole the idea from my wife and I.

And the most important statistic on Voinovich, he's the grandson of former Ohio Governor George Voinovich.

Good call. Really makes you think the whole nostalgia over that 149 class is a bit overblown. There are a lot of weights that have 4-5 future champs/finalists in them. Judging how tough a weight is by future placements is really pretty dumb. Why did everyone start thinking this was a good way to look at it?

Looks like he has the skills but the Minny dual next weekend should tells us where he is at.

Correct. He apparently won a closed door wrestle off, had an unimpressive win in his first dual, and has not been seen since. Edit: seen wrestling for Iowa... I don't think Brands like killed him or amything...

Teske (wrestle off winner) and Woods have something minor. Nelson Brands was in a car accident and is recovering from surgery. Lee will be out until he is needed and Ayala is recovering from surgery as well (tore his pec in his first varsity match) and is redshirting.

Good call! It looks like Reiss (NC St) did not even place that year. I guess once every 40 years is worthy of note, eh?

Smelled like hippies and dope... https://liveforlivemusic.com/news/grateful-dead-5-8-77-cornell-greatest-performance/

I was there 40 (+) years ago, and we never called it Barton Hole. Ran track for four years there.

that you listen to/like that npr woke drivel is the least surprising thing ever. you're a cliche.

lol. npr is god awful state media. literally.

Yet another from Ioway.

To paraphrase Ty Webb, he's a tremendous fart.

NPR is toast. https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/3551625-the-time-has-come-defund-the-hopelessly-biased-npr/amp/ https://www.quora.com/Why-dont-people-like-NPR

Semantically correct. +1 you win the day, just like Mocco back in 2008.

That may be the way for you, but why do you want to force everyone to live your way? I thought that was one of the right's big objections is that the left is trying to tell you how to live... Seems hypocritical to me.

Will do

1982 177 bracket had Schultz, Banach, Reiss who all had titles prior to that year

Yes agreed, lighter coaches more influence over lighter guys and heavier coaches more influence over heavier guys. But all work very well in their roles.

I also was there when Gomez beat Yianni 11/19 at Cornell. Robert Owens was 100% correct about Yianni's demeanor toward the end of the match, and after the match. He was total class. I would add that I thought Gomez's actions during and after the match were very classy. He didn't get in Yanni's grill afterward, just shook hands. He did taunt the (extremely vocal) crowd slightly after the match, but considering the magnitude of the upset I'd say his celebration was very low-key. He then went over to his teammates and celebrated with them. Considering the atmosphere, I'd say Chris Bono and his whole team were pretty classy before, during, and after the entire dual. (I was initially confused by his referring to the match as part of a tournament. It was a dual, Wisconsin v Cornell. Then I realized this must have been written by someone who may be unfamiliar with wrestling lingo.)

"I hope you had a helluva piss Arnold!" Classic Movie!

This doesn't surprise me at all. He has always given off that vibe of servant leadership.

something about a horse and water?

Sasso looks great when he is the aggressor. He looks like a fish when he relies on his rubber knee crap. Opponents have figured it out. What they wouldn't expect is a full 6 minutes of aggression, instead of taking a lead and then resting on his gumby skills. I said it on other boards, I hate Sasso's style. I love my Buckeyes, but man...

Like many of you, I was very concerned when our previous Forum decided to close its doors. Now that we've been in our new home (asylum?) for a little while, I have found myself very happy. I think all my previous amigos are here and maybe some new ones. Other than one speed bump in the beginning, the transition for me has been smooth and that's quite an accomplishment. (Thanks @GreatWhiteNorth for getting me over that.) We have everything we had before, plus the Club Forums, plus a place to argue politics, plus some other cool things. What's to not like? I'd like to thank whoever made it happen, I believe @Husker_Du and @BobDole. Please feel free to correct me or add to the list. Even though I've been around these parts for a while, I still don't know who's who. Anyway, Thanks! BP

Secret Sauce = Cael Sanderson simple answer

Who would’ve thought that RBY and Gilman would make each other better? Or that DT and Jaime Espinal would make Nickal and Brooks and Dean better? Or Bekzod would make Nolf and Cenzo and Starocci better? Or that Varner and Snyder would make Kerkvliet better? There were 7 Olympic medalists in that room last year. Seven. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Alternative theory: the best want to be with the best. Best coaches, best training partners, best RTC. It becomes a virtuous cycle.

He'd get killed with a real current pro boxer. He knows it and that is why he steers clear of it. He has made more than most fighters make as a living. He's smart and using what he has to make money. People want to pay to watch, then all the better for him. He looked like he got a good right in on Silva to knock him down. mspart