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With the NILs going on you would think the athletes would be asking the university to get as much content out there as possible. The more exposure they have the more people are likely to follow them and/or paid partners taking notice. I get most are not making bank on college wrestling but being able to even get a little extra i will keep a few athlete interested at continuing their athletic/academic career at your university rather than look at the opportunities elsewhere.

You keep talking about the creators but they’re irrelevant to why @flyingcement started this thread: for the consumers. In addition to the confusion about not being sure how many events will be PPV or not, even one $15 PPV annually would be a pretty steep price increase, being 15% of the cost of an annual subscription (higher than inflation even). 4 PPV’s in a year and you’re paying more than Flo. And with tweets like the below, a lawyer better than FloKaren could probably make an argument it was a bait and switch/false advertising, although I’m guessing there’s something in the T&C’s saying they can change the price at any time: If you actually cared about the consumers and not just the creators, @nhs67’s idea of a higher subscribtion level that includes all PPV’s might not be a bad one.

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I've suggested for years that BTN pair a pro with a rookie for a season. Then you have a new crew of people who can then be versed in the sport and then train the next generation. Now that BTN proper is owned by Fox, we get their contract guys (like Ray Flores) who have to do a set # of events in their contract for Fox, and BTN events get lumped in there. I've lived in Big Ten country for 10 of the last 13 years and have gotten a call ONE time to work at Minnesota for something - the Day 1 stream of the National Duals in like 2013 just when I moved back. I would have loved an opportunity like Student U. when I was in college. I had two TV games before I graduated college - one as a sideline reporter for Comcast Sports Net and another for a locally produced women's basketball game where I had no color or even on-screen clock. That WAS my TV sizzle reel. The amount of reps these Big Ten guys get these days is so valuable.

I like it, whether it "makes sense" or not. I would assume pretty much all D1 schools have an AV/Theater program. The school could give independent study credits for manning/womanning the camera and mic. And there are always kids who like to d*ck around with computers to edit and upload the content. Syracuse U has pretty much the best broadcast journalism program in the country. Oh, they don't have a wrestling program anymore... It's always easy to figure out how not to do something. I worked with many people who that was their "core competency".

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Well they did. So if your favorite team was on the road wrestling Minny you could sign up for gopher video and great news this meant you could also watch volleyball, and who doesn't wanta watch female rodents playing volleyball. If your team then traveled to Iowa St you could then sign up for Clone service and also watch all the clone softball you wanted. Course many of us wrestling fans just wanta watch wrestling. Flo saw a market there, only problem is they refused to listen to the customer or upgrade UI/UX etc leaving the door open. Personally I wish everyone was on the ESPN+. There are still other smaller programs doing it on their own sometimes picked up by others for the big matches, see Lehigh & Bucknell this weekend.

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All times Eastern, with local times in parenthesis. *-Indicates event is eligible for a one-pound weight allowance. Thursday, November 17: Iowa at Army West Point, 7:00 PM Missouri at Arizona State, 9:00 PM (7:00 PM) Friday, November 18: Michigan State at American, 6:00 PM Princeton at Indiana, 6:00 PM *Buffalo vs. Illinois at Albany, NY, 6:30 PM *Central Michigan vs. NC State at Albany, NY, 6:30 PM *Iowa vs. Sacred Heart at Albany, NY, 6:30 PM Columbia at Ohio State, 7:00 PM Maryland at Pittsburgh, 7:00 PM Binghamton at North Dakota State, 8:00 PM (7:00 PM) Little Rock at Oklahoma, 8:00 PM (7:00 PM) Wyoming at Oklahoma State, 8:00 PM (7:00 PM) Augustana (SD) at South Dakota State, 8:00 PM (7:00 PM) *Buffalo vs. Iowa at Albany, NY, 8:30 PM *Illinois vs. NC State at Albany, NY, 8:30 PM Utah Valley at California Baptist, 10:00 PM (7:00 PM) Saturday, November 19: *Campbell, North Carolina at Life U. Open, Powder Springs, GA, 9:00 AM Franklin & Marshall, Long Island at Shorty Hitchcock Memorial Open, hosted by Millersville, 9:30 AM *Bellarmine, Lindenwood, Little Rock, Missouri, SIU Edwardsville at Lindenwood Open, hosted by Lindenwood, 10:00 AM (9:00 AM) *Air Force, American, Bucknell, Davidson, Kent State, Lock Haven, Michigan State, Navy, Nebraska, Ohio, The Citadel, VMI at Navy Classic, hosted by Navy, 10:00 AM Air Force at Younes Hospitality Open, hosted by Nebraska-Kearney, 10:00 AM (9:00 AM) Wisconsin at Cornell, 1:00 PM Presbyterian at Queens, 3:00 PM Rutgers at Stanford, 5:00 PM (2:00 PM) *Lehigh at Pittsburgh, 7:00 PM Sunday, November 20: Chattanooga vs. Northern Illinois at Purdue, 9:00 AM Cleveland State at Purdue, 9:00 AM *Appalachian State, Arizona State, Drexel, Duke, Franklin & Marshall, George Mason, Harvard, Penn, Rider, Sacred Heart, Virginia Tech at Keystone Classic, hosted by Penn, 9:30 AM *Army West Point, Bloomsburg, Brown, Buffalo, Campbell, Central Michigan, Hofstra, Indiana, Penn State at Black Knight Invite, hosted by Army West Point, 10:00 AM Minnesota, North Dakota State, Northern Iowa, South Dakota State at Daktronics Open, hosted by South Dakota State, 10:00 AM (9:00 AM) Chattanooga vs. Cleveland State at Purdue, 10:30 AM Northern Illinois at Purdue, 10:30 AM *Cal Poly, California Baptist, CSU Bakersfield, Oregon State, Rutgers, Stanford, Utah Valley at Roadrunner Open, hosted by CSU Bakersfield, 12:00 PM (9:00 AM) *Ohio State at North Carolina, 12:00 PM Chattanooga at Purdue, 12:00 PM Cleveland State vs. Northern Illinois at Purdue, 12:00 PM Columbia at Michigan, 2:00 PM Binghamton at Minnesota, 2:00 PM (1:00 PM) Iowa State vs. Grand View at Humboldt, IA, 3:00 PM (2:00 PM) Edinboro vs. Northern Colorado at West Virginia, 5:00 PM Glenville State at West Virginia, 5:00 PM Edinboro at West Virginia, 6:30 PM Northern Colorado vs. Glenville State at West Virginia, 6:30 PM Northwestern at Virginia, 7:30 PM Edinboro vs. Glenville State at West Virginia, 8:00 PM Northern Colorado at West Virginia, 8:00 PM

Greetings All, I am not sure who is aware of this, but there are Club Subforum options here! As a disclaimer, these are moderated by whoever creates them and whoever their team is. For example, @MPhillips has his tOSU one and I have my UofM one, which we have talked about a few things there. Obviously it is a new feature and it can be utilized in a much dofferent nature, but swing on by them! Head over there and dive in! https://intermatforums.com/clubs/

Start with some Bearcat highlights High school standout Meyer Shapiro won the Bearcat open at 149 with relative ease. Most notable win was Sam Hillegas - formerly VT but now at WVU. Peyton Hall (also WVU) pinned Cornell’s Julian Ramirez in the finals of the Bearcat. Was the end result of a ridiculous scramble. Ramirez was in a bad situation through most of scramble but did his best to not give up a takedown - resulted in getting pinned. Sometimes you have to know your situation sucks. Giving up the TD is better than TD and backs . Or the pin. Stevo Poulin (NCO) of YouTube fame was the champion at 125! Pinned HS phenom Liledahl after being up 6-0 in the semi. Jax Forrest, another HS star, took out Cornell’s Ungar in consi semi. Finished third. Ungar beat his teammate LaJoie 14-2. Figure he is Cornell’s 125 .. no? Cornell’s Fernandez was the champ at 133. Looks like some depth behind Vito. Cornella of Cornell was the champ. Made easy work of it outside the first match vs Penn State’s David Evans. They didn’t do true third. Semi losers wrestled. I bet this Evan fellow was the second best there although he finished 5th. Penn state has done well with him. Cornell’s heavy - Fernandez won a match and the forfeited out. Hmmmm.

All-Star Men's Results https://almanac.mattalkonline.com/nwca-all-star-classic/ All-Star Women's Results https://almanac.mattalkonline.com/nwca-all-star-classic/nwca-all-star-classic-women/ All-Star Locations and E/W Team Scores https://almanac.mattalkonline.com/nwca-all-star-classic/nwca-all-star-classic-locations/

That would look kind of messy.

While your at it @BobDole maybe move them board bets down so it feels like a forum instead of a gambling site.

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Voinovich's comeback. https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/8246701-149-lbs-victor-voinovich-oklahoma-state-vs-manzona-bryant-lehigh

Keegan O’Toole results make it look like he is in a path of destruction. TF, Pin, Pin to win the Tiger Style invite. Final pin was against Dan Braunagel of IL. (Ranked 21 in Intermat) Edmond Ruth (wow, that has to be confusing … Ed Ruth) of IL beat Peyton Mocco 7-5 … a decent upset.

In other news, SVN looks like an absolute machine. Will likely see some top-15 competition from CMU’s Lovett at the Black Knight Invite, if he goes. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I know. I'm just trying to recapture the essence of our old fallen forum. RIP The Mat

I was viewing at the start, camera shooting thru backstop net (they couldve taken it down correct?) no time or score info, appeared only the one high camera view & then announcing. I didn't make it thru half of first match, decided I needed to clean my bike drive train before the next ride. Yeah you'd think MIvUNC was gonna be good. Am assuming this was a venue thing cause I've watched a lot on ESPN+ and they've generally been good.

Off topic from Iowa/CBU but speaking of former wrestlers doing a good job announcing - Hayden Hidlay was great for NC State

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Looks like another great addition to the Legends of the Mat Forum once the thread has fell from the first few pages of this one.

You’re quite pathetic. LOL. Do you sit and wait for any PSU guy to lose and come and gloat? True freshman and you’re already writing him off? Good for you. Nice find!! Keep hating loser! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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And I will leave you with my thoughts/predictiona: 125 - I think their matches on Friday showed us a lot in what to expect in this match, and I do think McHenry gets the nod again. Wager wins via Decision. UNC 3-0 133 - After Friday I was on the fence as to if it would be Hernandez here today. Honestly I see a very similar result eother way. A decent 5-6 point Decision victory for Ragusin. Tied 3-3 141 - McNeil may come out and take him down a time or two early, but Mattin is a grinder and he gets points late. Mattin via Decision. A 6-4/8-6 type match. UofM 6-3 149 - I am thinking Lamer gets Scott to open up a bit and capitalizes. He did wrestle Hensen tough, but Verk beat him by 5. That is like getting Majored by most. I still think a 3-4 point Decision for Lamer is in order here. UofM 9-3 157 - No O'Conner here and UNC doesn't have anyone elae who can out-Lewan Will Lewan. Lewan via Decision. UofM 12-3 165 - Mattin showed a gear that should earn him spot starts at 165 or 157 down the line. I expect a similar result to Friday, even though I think Mattin wrestles this one better. Mazzara is just better than the Campbell kid. Mazzara via Decision. UofM 12-6 174 - I am calling my shot here. Lautt wrestles matches too close and he isn't going to be able to horse Walker very easily. Add in that Walker is the better athlete and he takes this via Decision in OT. UofM 15-6 184 - Finesilver again shows that if his neutral game has jumped levels in the offseason. Pulls a Major here. UofM 19-6 197 - I am so going to write a letter if we see Yatooma instead of Bullock again. Shaw Majors or Pins Yatooma. Bullock amd Shaw go back and forth with Shaw squeaking out the Decision. UofM 19-9 285 - Parris Pins Whitman. UofM 25-9

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Soldano - true frosh, 3x NJ State Champ Poznanski - Red Shirt-likely back at 197 in 2023, but if not, Soldano takes the RS

College sports departments are over staffed in some places, understaffed in others. One part of that discrepancy is the promotion of Olympic/non-revenue sports. Schools will not spend money to lose more money any more than they have to. Putting stuff on ESPN+ or FloSports, usually through a conference (not school) contract will put some money back into those schools’ pockets. Much of those deals are about FB/MBB rights. Alaska-Anchorage puts its mens hockey games on YouTube for free, whereas the NCHC has its own conference streaming plan. I think Atlantic Hockey is with FloHockey. Big Ten is on BTN+ (mostly) and believe a number of Hockey East games are on ESPN+. Wrestling isn’t alone with splintering how things get viewed. Of all those I listed, I can guarantee Alaska-Anchorage is the only place that isn’t getting some type of nominal kickback from a streaming deal. Anchorage is also a D1 hockey independent, so they don’t have the luxury of a conference contract. I’ve also learned while tracking attendance, some schools won’t even “staff” that task … and wrestling is one of the more difficult sports for staff to walk in and be able to cover since it’s so nuanced. Wrestling piggybacking conference streaming contracts is better for the regular season viewing with “wildcat” tournaments picking their streaming option just being part of the landscape.

Exactly.... The university would have to set up video system ... create a quality product... then have a way to charge people to watch the dual who are not in live attendance as a paid attendee. It's easier to have someone else do the whole thing. There are some duals produced by teams... sometimes on the Pac-12 site there will be a dual that says "produced by (insert team)" and you can watch for free. But that doesn't occur very often. It's usually non-conference duals.

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You're talking more responsibility for each institution. As it is now, they allow whoever (Flo, ESPN, B1G+, ACCN, etc) to control the content and they (the school) gets a cut. They also don't lose any money on the sports that turn a negative - which is basically every sport other than football. If you leave it in the responsibility of the schools alone, we won't see wrestling because wrestling doesn't make money. In a way, if you think about it, the schools allowing the conferences to do it is almost just that. Each conference has it's own network now, right?

Seems like Noto is waiting to shake hands possibly while Pop is clapping and Pop turns towards him and just keeps clapping. Noto then gets agitated. You can here the ref say unsportsmanlike on both teams when he goes to the table.

I can't tell anything from that video. It doesn't really match up with Noto allegedly going after Cates, though. If you were to just see that video, it looks like Pop is clapping in Noto's face and Noto starts talking shit. We would need to see video from before the start of this video to get the whole context. Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk

You must be too young to know the name Babe Ruth... We could go Dire Straits the Soldano of Swing

Did they wrestle off? Isn't Soldano a true freshman? He needs a nickname now... The Soldano of Swat?

As mentioned before, the issue being complained about is the PPV hiding behind a subscription wall for a sport that has struggled with relevance and viewership. For someone like yourself who is providing commentary on wrestling, it seems like a logical enough place to host your content. No major beef with the business model on its own but it's when you layer it with live wrestling that it becomes cumbersome for consumers. Folks who are hosting PPV on Rokfin are not doing wrestling any favors. But as I mentioned in my opening post, I don't know of another platform where one could sell direct PPV without any subscription fees included. Rokfin themselves would be wise to be that platform to do provide that option. Strategic miscalculations open up opportunities for others though- one of the beauties of capitalism.

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at the end of the day the current system is better for the creators in a world where every other platform is terrible for creators. if you guys think this is terrible for consumers, and that it limits viewership, then the market will bear that out and the creators will have to reconsider ppv. otherwise, you're just scoffing at semantics and/or a unique funnel.

It's the individual channels/creators that roundly requested the ppv option. i won't try to convince y'all that it makes sense b/c you probably made up your mind. but it makes all the sense in the world. and at the end of the day, if you don't subscribe normally, just consider it a $25ppv. of course you can decide if that's too steep for ya or not. i would also suggest maybe considering the P&L of the events these promoters put on. (keep in mind, i don't do ppv events so this is not me trying to defend myself)

If you seriously think that adding weight classes (supply) at weights where there are fewer wrestlers (demand) will increase demand, I sincerely question your grasp on economics... The weight classes I suggested are based on data done by the NFHS and the NWCA...

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MATBOSS InterMat Rewind: Looking back at first college All-Star event Mark Palmer, Senior Writer 11/15/2019 mark@intermatwrestle.com, Twitter: @MatWriter For more than a half-century, the NWCA All-Star Classic has been an annual event on the college wrestling calendar going back to 1967. Until this year. Last month, the National Wrestling Coaches Association announced that the 2019 All-Star event would not take place this fall. Here's how the NWCA announcement described the event: "Typically serving as the kick-off to the collegiate season, The All-Star Classic has matched up numerous national champions and All-Americans through the years, including many No. 1 vs. No. 2 matchups." Why no NWCA All-Star Classic this fall? Here's the explanation provided by Mike Moyer, NWCA Executive Director: "On behalf of the NWCA Board of Directors, I wanted to let you know that we have decided to suspend the NWCA All-Star Classic for the 2019/20 year. Over the past 6 months, we have received some terrific ideas and concepts from our constituents on how we can 'revitalize' the All-Star Classic to meet the unique needs of our college wrestlers, coaches, and fans. Some of the proposed ideas and concepts required some extensive vetting which has made it impractical to still host the All-Star Classic this Fall..." InterMat thought the time was right to take a look back at the very first NWCA All-Star event -- the 1967 East-West Classic -- which took place in early April of that year. Not always the kickoff for the college wrestling season Although the All-Star event has been a fixture of college wrestling since 1967, it hasn't always been the season-opening event. In fact, the NWCA All-Star Classic has been the kickoff event for only a decade-and-a-half ... going back to 2005, when the event made its first appearance at the beginning of the collegiate season when held at the Southern Illinois University-Edwardsville in metropolitan St. Louis. In the early years -- 1967 through 1971 -- the All-Stars had been the capstone event of the college wrestling season, taking place a week or two after the conclusion of the NCAA wrestling championships. For just over three decades -- from 1972 through 2004 -- the All-Star Classic took place pretty much in mid-season ... sometime from late January up to March, before the NCAAs. An East-West format For two decades -- 1967 through 1987 -- the All-Star Classic used an East vs. West format, with individual wrestlers placed on either an East or West team. (In 1967, the wrestlers were assigned to the East or West team based on the geographic location of the college for which they wrestle.) The event was organized and scored like a regular college dual meet. At the 1967 East-West Classic, each team had two legendary college wrestling coaches. The East team was led by Cliff Keen of the University of Michigan, and Lehigh's Gerry Leeman ... while coaching the West team were Oklahoma State's Myron Roderick and Harold Nichols of Iowa State. Referee for the 1967 East-West Classic was Rex Edgar. A decade earlier, Edgar had wrestled for the University of Oklahoma, winning a Big Seven title and NCAA All-American honors, placing third in the 167-pound bracket at the 1957 NCAAs. (Fun fact: Edgar had been a high school and college teammate of the legendary Dan Hodge, three-time NCAA champ at 177 pounds, whose name graces the Hodge Trophy, the annual award presented to the top college wrestler in the nation by WIN Magazine. By the way... Edgar is the other wrestler featured with Hodge on the cover of the Sports Illustrated April 1, 1957 issue... the only issue in the 60+ year history of the magazine featuring amateur wrestlers as amateur wrestlers.) The world in 1967: On the mat ... The 1967 East-West Classic was held Saturday, April 8 at Gallagher Hall (now Gallagher-Iba Arena) at Oklahoma State University in Stillwater. A near-capacity crowd of 6,700 fans gathered to see the top college wrestlers of the era do battle. (Note: the building was substantially expanded and upgraded in 2000.) The event was conducted under the collegiate rules in effect in 1967. New that year: a match format of three periods, the first lasting two minutes, followed by two periods of three minutes each, for a total of eight minutes (the year before, bouts lasted nine minutes total, consisting of three, three-minute periods). Wrestlers were required to wear the gear of the era -- a three-piece uniform consisting of sleeveless shirt, trunks, and tights. Headgear was required. (Today's singlets would not be permitted until the mid-1970s; the shirtless look of college legends such as Dan Hodge of Oklahoma had been outlawed in the early 1960s.) True to the college wrestling rules at the time, at the 1967 East-West Classic had eleven individual weight classes -- 115, 123, 130, 137, 145, 152, 160, 167, 177, 191 pounds and heavyweight -- the same number as at tournaments such as the NCAA championships, and two more than typical college dual meets (which did not normally have 115 and 191 bouts). Note that 50+ years ago, the heavyweight weight class was called "unlimited" because there was no top weight limit. That came along in the mid-1980s; today's upper limit is 285 pounds. Prior to setting an upper weight limit, there were a handful of NCAA champs who tipped the scales at more than 300 pounds. ... and off the mat The year 1967 was a tumultuous one in the world beyond wrestling. The Vietnam War was taking place half a world away ... with student protests at a number of college campuses across the country. There was also unrest in many major cities in the U.S. as part of the civil rights movement. In its quest to put a man on the moon, NASA suffered a tragic setback when three U.S. astronauts were killed in a fire inside the space capsule during a January training exercise for the first Apollo mission at Cape Kennedy. It was also a historic year in terms of popular culture. The top new movies of 1967 included "The Graduate", "Bonnie and Clyde" and "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner." In terms of pop music, the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, the Who, Aretha Franklin and Stevie Wonder were among the biggest acts. Among the top hits of the year: "I'm a Believer" by the Monkees, "Windy" by the Association, "Happy Together" by the Turtles, and "Light My Fire" by the Doors. Among the most popular TV shows of the 1966-67 season: "Bonanza", "The Andy Griffith Show", "Green Acres", "The Beverly Hillbillies" and "Bewitched." The 1967 East-West Classic, Match-by-Match At the 1967 East-West Classic, matches were wrestled in ascending order -- lightest to heftiest, starting with the 115-pounders, and concluding with the unlimited class, better known as heavyweight. (Back then, there was no such thing as random weight draw or setting a match order to conclude the dual with what was expected to be the most exciting match.) 115 pounds: Glenn McMinn (Arizona State/West) dec. Jim Anderson (Minnesota/East), 3-2 Glenn McMinn had placed third at 123 pounds at the 1967 NCAA championships at Kent State University in northeast Ohio two weeks earlier. Jim Anderson came in second at 123 at the '67 NCAAs. Here's how two publications of the era described the first match of the 1967 All-Star event: "The opening 115-pound match set the pace for the match as Glenn McMinn of Arizona State edged the East's Jim Anderson of Minnesota with 10 seconds left in the final period for a 3-2 decision," according to John Fennich, sports editor for the Daily O'Collegian, the student newspaper at Oklahoma State, in his coverage of the first-ever East-West Classic at his school's iconic wrestling venue. Bob Dellinger, sports editor for The Oklahoman -- the daily newspaper for Oklahoma City -- wrote this description for Amateur Wrestling News magazine: "McMinn used a headsnap to drop Jim Anderson of Minnesota with only 11 seconds left in the action-packed opener." In the years since the 1967 East-West Classic ... McMinn was honored with a Lifetime Service to Wrestling by the Arizona chapter of the National Wrestling Hall of Fame in 2005. 123 pounds: Rick Sanders (Portland State/West) tied Bob Fehrs (Michigan/East), 2-2 Prior to wrestling at Portland State, Rick Sanders was a three-time Oregon state wrestling champ for Lincoln High School in Portland. While in college, Sanders launched a successful freestyle career, winning national and world titles. Bob Fehrs, team captain for Michigan Wolverines, was a three-time Big Ten champion (1965-1967), and three-time NCAA finalist the same three years, losing each of those title matches to Lehigh's Mike Caruso. Here's how two publications described the 123-pound All-Star match: "Robert Fehrs of Michigan and Rick Sanders of Portland State each got a reversal and left the 123 championship in doubt as the match ended in a draw," according to the O'Colly's Fennich. "Fehrs had all but the last gasp of a single-leg takedown on Sanders for more than a minute of the first period but didn't score until he managed to reverse when Sanders went too high with a three-quarter Nelson midway in the second," Dellinger wrote for Amateur Wrestling News. "Sanders, outstanding wrestler in the NCAA, reversed for the tie with 1:07 to go and had Fehrs in deep trouble with a near predicament at the buzzer." In the years since the 1967 East-West Classic ... Bob Fehrs received a Lifetime Service to Wrestling by the Pennsylvania chapter of the National Wrestling Hall of Fame in 2017. Rick Sanders was a two-time silver medalist in freestyle wrestling for the U.S. at the Olympics in Mexico City in 1968 and Munich in 1972. Sadly, just weeks after the '72 Munich Games, Sanders was killed in a vehicle crash while hitchhiking in Yugoslavia in October 1972. He was just 27. Sanders was posthumously inducted as a Distinguished Member of the National Wrestling Hall of Fame in Stillwater, Okla. in 1987. Note: Portland State eliminated its wrestling program in 2009. 130 pounds: Mike Caruso (Lehigh/East) dec. Jim Hanson (Colorado/West), 6-3 Mike Caruso was coming off having won his third EIWA (Eastern Intercollegiate Wrestling Association) title and third NCAA title, having won the 123-pound championship at the 1967 NCAAs at Kent State a couple weeks earlier (defeating Michigan's Bob Fehrs in the finals for the third consecutive time), to conclude a near-perfect 57-1 record at Lehigh. Jim Hanson had placed fourth in the 130-pound bracket at the 1967 NCAAs. Writing for Amateur Wrestling News, Bob Dellinger wrote, "Caruso, three-time national champ, scored a quick four points on a fireman's carry into a predicament in the first 20 seconds and posted a workmanlike 6-3 decision over Jim Hanson of Colorado for his 51st consecutive triumph." In the years since the 1967 East-West Classic ... Mike Caruso was welcomed into the National Wrestling Hall of Fame as a Distinguished Member in 1991 ... and was honored by the New Jersey chapter of the Hall of Fame as an Outstanding American in 2001. Sadly, Hanson's alma mater, the University of Colorado, axed its wrestling program in June 1980. 137 pounds: Gene Davis (Oklahoma State/West) dec. Don Behm (Michigan State/East), 7-3 Gene Davis was the first of two Oklahoma State wrestlers to come out as winners in their home gym (Gallagher Hall) at the 1967 All-Star event (the other being Jim Rogers at 145). Davis was a two-time Big 8 champ in 1967 and 1968, and a three-time NCAA All-American, winning the title at the 1966 NCAAs, and placing third at the '67 NCAAs. As a Cowboy, Davis compiled a 62-5-1 record. "Gene Davis was Oklahoma State's first representative who saw action, as he decisioned Michigan State's Don Behm, 7-3," reported the Oklahoma State student paper, the O'Colly. Dellinger, writing for Amateur Wrestling News, provided additional details: "Davis had too much of everything for Don Behm of Michigan State, scoring takedowns with 14 seconds left in the first period and 29 seconds from the end. He controlled the match until Behm reversed with 14 seconds left for a 7-3 score." In the years since the 1967 East-West Classic ... Both wrestlers in the 137-pound match at the first All-Star event later found themselves welcomed into the National Wrestling Hall of Fame as Distinguished Members: Gene Davis, in 1985 ... and Don Behm, in 2004. 145 pounds: Jim Rogers (Oklahoma State/West) dec. Don New (Cornell University/East), 8-5 Jim Rogers was a two-time Big Eight champ (and three-time conference finalist) and three-time NCAA All-American, coming in fourth place at 145 at the 1967 Nationals. Rogers crafted a 45-16 record at the Stillwater school. "At 145, Jim Rogers of Oklahoma State held off a last-period effort by Cornell's Don New to take the match, 8-5," according to the Daily O'Collegian. "Rogers played cat-and-mouse with Don New of Cornell, piling up a six-point lead with three takedowns and a reverse in the first three minutes and staying on the move the rest of the way for an 8-5 decision," reported Amateur Wrestling News. In the years since the 1967 East-West Classic ... Jim Rogers was presented with the Lifetime Service to Wrestling honor by the Oklahoma chapter of the National Wrestling Hall of Fame in 2004 ... while Don New received a similar honor -- the Lifetime Service to Wrestling rom the Upstate New York chapter of the Hall of Fame -- in 2015. 152 pounds: Lee Ehrler (UCLA/West) dec. Jim Kamman (Michigan/East), 8-7 Both wrestlers had earned All-American honors at the 1967 NCAAs ... in different weight classes. Jim Kamman won the 152-pound crown for the Wolverines, while Lee Ehrler placed third at 160 pounds at the Nationals at Kent State. "Top crowd-pleaser of the night was Ehrler, whose unorthodox style and superb balance shocked national champ Jim Kamman of Michigan, 8-7," wrote Amateur Wrestling News' Dellinger. "Ehrler broke a cradle for a reverse and near-fall in the first period, survived a second-period ride, then used a spectacular Greco-Roman fallback for another nearfall 1:29 from the end. Kamman managed his second takedown with nine seconds left but lacked two seconds of having enough time advantage to tie it." In the years since the 1967 East-West Classic ... Both 152-pounders at the 1967 All-Star event later earned Lifetime Service to Wrestling honors: Lee Ehrler from the California chapter of the National Wrestling Hall of Fame in 2015 ... and Jim Kamman, from the Minnesota chapter of the Hall of Fame, in 2008. Lee Ehrler died in December 2018 at age 73, having been diagnosed with ALS (Lou Gehrig's Disease) not long before his passing. Surprised to see "UCLA" and "wrestling" in the same sentence? The Bruins of southern California once had an NCAA intercollegiate wrestling program. Not anymore. 160 pounds: Joe Domko (Southern Illinois University-Carbondale/East) dec. Vic Marcucci (Iowa State/West), 3-2 Talk about an overachiever: Joe Domko, who lost his first match at in the 167-pound bracket at the 1967 NCAAs, managed to defeat the defending national champ at that weight, Vic Marcucci, at the 1967 East-West Classic. Though the All-Star match between Domko and Marcucci was actually closer than that statement may sound ... "Joe Domko of Southern Illinois got a takedown with 13 seconds left to break 1-1 tie with NCAA champion Vic Marcucci from Iowa State to take the 160-pound match for the East," according to the daily student newspaper at Oklahoma State. Here's Amateur Wrestling News' take on the 160-pound bout: "Domko used a double-leg tackle with seconds left to beat Vic Marcucci of Iowa State -- who barely missed a takedown at the buzzer -- 3-2." In the years since the 1967 East-West Classic ... Vic Marcucci was welcomed into the Glen Brand Wrestling Hall of Fame at the National Wrestling Hall of Fame Dan Gable Museum in Waterloo, Iowa in 2009. Joe Domko passed away in August 2014 at the age of 69. SIU-Carbondale said goodbye to intercollegiate wrestling in 1989. (Note: Miles away from Carbondale, SIU-Edwardsville in suburban St. Louis still maintains a NCAA Division I mat program.) 167 pounds: George Radman (Michigan State/East) dec. Fred Fairbanks (Washington State), 9-3 In the 167-pound match at the East-West Classic, it was a battle of two All-American honorees from the '67 NCAAs, as Michigan State's George Radman -- 167-pound champ -- faced Washington State's Fred Fairbanks, who placed fifth in the same bracket. "The East took the 167-pound clash as Michigan State's George Radman showed the style that nabbed him this year's NCAA championship and topped Fred Fairbanks of Washington State, 9-3," the Daily O'Collegian reported. One additional detail included in Amateur Wrestling News' brief recap of the match: Radman scored three takedowns. In the years since the 1967 East-West Classic ... The Washington State varsity wrestling program was eliminated after the 1986 season. 177 pounds: Don Parker (University of Northern Iowa/West) dec. Dave Mucka (Moravian College/East), 3-2 Don Parker came to Gallagher Hall for the 1967 East-West Classic as a two-time NCAA Division II champ at 177 (1966, 1967) who went on to place sixth at the same weight at the 1967 NCAA Division I championship. (Back then, Division II champs automatically qualified for the D1 tournament.) Dave Mucka of Pennsylvania's Moravian College placed sixth in the 177 bracket at the 1967 NCAA Division II championships. The 1967 All-Star event was the second time Parker and Mucka met on the mat. The UNI mat champ defeated Mucka in the 177-pound finals at the 1966 National Division II championships. "Don Parker of the State College of Iowa (now UNI) nabbed the final win for the West as he edged Moravian's Dave Mucka, 3-2 at 177," according to the Daily O'Collegian student paper. "Parker's armdrag felled Dave Mucka of Moravian with 29 seconds left for a 3-2 win," added Amateur Wrestling News. In the years since the 1967 East-West Classic ... Don Parker was presented with the National Wrestling Hall of Fame's Medal of Courage in 2014. In 1998, he sustained a serious neck injury while hunting which left him paralyzed ... yet was still able to coach wrestling from a wheelchair. Dave Mucka passed away in August 2004. Haven't heard of Moravian wrestling? The private college located in Bethlehem, Pa. said goodbye to its intercollegiate wrestling program at the end of the 1986 season. 191 pounds: Tom Schlendorf (Syracuse/East) dec. Fred Fozzard (Oklahoma State/West), 5-3 Tom Schlendorf -- a two-sport star (football and wrestling) for Syracuse -- had compiled an 84-8-1 record on the mat for the Orangemen. In 1967, Schlendorf completed his athletic career at the upstate New York State school by being named Syracuse Athlete of the Year. Fred Fozzard, the third Oklahoma State wrestler to take to the mat in his home gym at the inaugural All-Star event, was a two-time Big 8 conference champ and 1967 NCAA titlewinner (and three-time NCAA All-American). He entered the East-West Classic with an overall collegiate record of 54-4-3. John Fennich, sports editor for the Daily O'Collegian, wrote about the match as one might expect from someone who normally covered Cowboy wrestlers: "Oklahoma State's Fred Fozzard, NCAA 177-pound champ, lost the 191-pound match, 5-3, to national titleholder (at that weight) Tom Schlendorf of Syracuse after matching the Eastern grappler point-for-point through the opening period." Writing for Amateur Wrestling News magazine, Bob Dellinger provided a few more details of the match at 191: "Fozzard led Schlendorf on a single-leg takedown midway of the second period but Schlendorf's reversal five seconds before the middle buzzer and won the match with a headsnap takedown seven seconds from the end." In the years since the 1967 East-West Classic ... Fred Fozzard was welcomed into the National Wrestling Hall of Fame as a Distinguished Member in 2012. Sadly, Tom Schlendorf passed away in July 2007. The Syracuse Division I wrestling program ceased to exist about twenty years ago. Heavyweight: Dave Porter (Michigan/East) pinned Curley Culp (Arizona State/West), 3:38 Dave Porter and Curley Culp shared a number of things in common. Both made names for themselves in wrestling and in football in both high school and college. Both were two-time state mat champs -- Porter in Michigan, Culp in Arizona. And both had NCAA heavyweight titles earned prior to the 1967 East-West event: Porter at the 1966 NCAAs ... and Culp at the 1967 Nationals. The Porter-Culp heavyweight match at the 1967 All-Stars got big-time coverage. In fact, both the Daily O'Collegian student paper and Amateur Wrestling News gave the concluding bout heavyweight attention, as it was the deciding factor in the event's overall outcome. "A near-capacity Gallagher Hall crowd witnessed a tremendous come-from-behind effort by the East which was capped by the victory punch delivered by Dave Porter, NCAA heavyweight champion in 1966, pinned Curley Culp of the West, NCAA champion in 1967, giving the East a 19-17 win," according to the O'Colly. "The order was a pin and that's what Michigan's Porter served for the East as he trailed the Arizona State 265-pounder going into the second period, 9-5. With 22 seconds left in the second period, Porter decided to press the issue with a reversal and body press for the fall." Bob Dellinger weighed in with his account of the finale. "The heavyweight grudge match was a rouser from the start," wrote Dellinger. "Three times Culp threw Porter to the mat in the first two minutes, piling up a 6-2 lead." "Porter started the second period on top and by blocking a switch, locked Culp in a nearfall. Culp broke away and took Porter down a fourth time for a 9-5 lead. But Porter quickly reversed and as Culp attempted to sit out, threw the Arizona State behemoth on his back and flattened him in 3:38 with a body press." In the years since the 1967 East-West Classic ... Dave Porter won his second heavyweight title at the 1968 NCAAs ... but, two weeks later, at the 1968 East-West Classic, Porter lost to Curley Culp, 5-3. Culp went on to a professional football career as a defensive tackle for the Kansas City Chiefs, Houston Oilers and Minnesota Vikings which spanned fourteen seasons. He was welcomed into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in Canton, Ohio in August 2013. Porter was a long-time high school teacher and coach at Grand Ledge High School in Michigan before retiring in 2005. In 2010, Porter received the Lifetime Service to Wrestling from the Michigan chapter of the National Wrestling Hall of Fame. Two years later, in August 2012, Porter passed away after a long illness at age 66. In the end ... After eleven matches featuring the top college wrestlers -- most of them NCAA All-Americans, including a number of recently crowned NCAA champs -- the very first All-Star event was one for the history books. At the 1967 East-West Classic, the East team scored a come-from-behind win -- claiming victory in four of the last five bouts -- to win the team title over the West, 19-17. Special thanks to Amateur Wrestling News for scanning the pages of their coverage of the 1967 East-West Classic and sharing them with this writer... so that I could share this information with InterMat readers.

No Although on second thought, with the current food price inflation maybe in ~10 years we will not to temporarily (say 5 years) drop all the weight classes down by say 10% to reflect the loss in weight of the general population due to this here high inflation era. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

You're off your marbles, mate. In what universe is 133, 174, and 197 not a match that could go either way? Do I believe Penn State is favored, as I have said several times? Absolutely. Am I going to be shocked if Arujau, Foca, or Cardenes win? Absolutely not. It was a 21-16 dual last year and it wasn't sealed until Kerk beat Fernandez in the final match of the dual via 5-0 Decision. Penn State lost a 2x NC at 141 and have new faces at 125, 141, 149, and 165. To think Cornell can't keep it close is preposterous.

I wonder how Princeton fills that Glory hole, then.....