Bo Bachelor round 2

[flyingcement]

1 hour ago, Caveira said:

Soooo.  I’m supposed to understand Iowa will pay millions for athletes via some elaborate poaching scheme but they won’t buy a few plane tickets (for the best recruit ever) or get one of the Iowa wrestlers to house one of them or simply rent an apartment in Iowa city for a few k a month.    
 

got it.  Ok.  

I don't know the realities of the situation but surely it is not hard to understand that someone could be generous with their money while simultaneously being legally cautious 

[Husker_Du]

On 6/22/2025 at 10:47 PM, bnwtwg said:

Sokobuw

Kozak

Reattack

Vecchiomania

Salty Walk-On

Swayz

WBP

Pelikanhead

Tsabolov Brands

Rhino because his facts run counter to xitter philosophy 

 

this explains so much about you

[jackwebster]

11 hours ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

I think Cardinale's knee was injured the next year.

Pretty sure he was injured both years. He just didn't make a public statement that "I'm injured, but excuses are for wusses." Instead, he kept quiet and wrestled on one leg . . . twice.

Edited June 24, 2025 by jackwebster

[scourge165]

7 hours ago, VakAttack said:

Uncle Chael weighs in. 

 

 

He really sounds like a clown. 

Look, every program has black eyes. 
 

I think Minnesota is an exceptionally well run program and clean. They had their legendary, Championship Coach run out for covering up drug dealing.

So calling Iowa(he says us) the most ethical program all-time...it's silly.

He also acts like Bassett said Iowa is a 2nd tier program and they don't know how to win given how he claimed Bo attacked them on the way out...

[1032004]

6 hours ago, Caveira said:

Soooo.  I’m supposed to understand Iowa will pay millions for athletes via some elaborate poaching scheme but they won’t buy a few plane tickets (for the best recruit ever) or get one of the Iowa wrestlers to house one of them or simply rent an apartment in Iowa city for a few k a month.    
 

got it.  Ok.  

I don’t think it’s an elaborate scheme.

Bob calls them up and pays them a lot of money.  The end.

Not sure if true but I read that “just getting an apartment” doesn’t fulfill the RTC 250 mile requirement.

But to that point, my guess is the bigger issue was more about Brands apparently saying he can’t practice with the RTC whenever he wants, not the cost of travel to get there.

[scourge165]

20 hours ago, NotThatDave said:

The spit-sucking and mouth-breathing makes it unlistenable.

Yeah...that's why watching it at 1.55X is better... but it also sounds like a fat guy eating ribs...

It's a tradeoff. 

Also, do they start talking Wrestling less than 13 minutes into this one? Baasch seems to try and steer it on track but...it somehow veers back off-track.

[1032004]

4 hours ago, BAC said:

Why stop there?  Since Iowa fans ALREADY think Bo's "not the right fit" explanation was "nasty," a "shot" against the Hawks, and "an unethical attack" against the most ethical program since the beginning of time, let's hope Bo now feels liberated to say EXACTLY why, in detail, Iowa not the right fit for what he wants in wrestling, what he wants as a person, and how they are not compatible with his faith journey. 

Details, Bo, details!  They already think you're a liar and a traitor, so no reason to hold back now, right?  Your 200K followers want to know!  Explain in detail to all the up-and-coming recruits who idolize you, and don't leave out a single description of how Iowa fell short of your expectations. 

They burned the bridge, so what do you have to lose?

To be fair, many PSU fans were bashing him after he signed with Iowa.

I hope Jagger is working on some good Kyle Snyder jokes if God tells Bo that Penn State is the right fit for his faith journey.

[scourge165]

16 hours ago, PortaJohn said:

Two points

1) Scrambling - If you want to argue that Spencer wasn't innovative or didn't funk in this department then maybe you can make an argument. But, he was a fantastic scrambler.  Great hip awareness and was phenomenal at keeping his head up.

2) Takedowns - Spencer, when not gassed, is a phenomenal takedown artist.  He didn't need a go to takedown.  He had an array of attacks to take his opponent down.  He was also phenomenal at re-attacks.

Spencer was as complete as a wrestler as one can think of

I kinda agree. I didn't think he was a great scrambler. 

Even the first Ramos match that year, he was taken down, put on his back...then either put on his back again or taken down again, but I thought it was 8-0 or 8-1.

I didn't think he was great on his feet. He was more than good enough, but if you're saying "as complete as a wrestler as one can think of," then...I don't see it. 

He gave up TDs a few times that year on early scrambles. For a guy who was SO dominant... that seemed like a weakness. 

At LEAST relative to the rest of his Wrestling. 

[GimJustafan]

12 hours ago, BAC said:

Agree with all of this.  To your last point, I'm always skeptical when I hear about NIL dollars, but bear in mind that they're over a year away from seeing any of that income.  All those flights/hotels could quickly add up, and that's all on a high school teacher's salary.  I can see how it's a really big deal.  

dads a teacher 

moms a nurse

they are doing just fine 

and if money is tight well you make concessions / tired of people expecting others pick up the tab 

Edited June 24, 2025 by GimJustafan

[HokieDave87]

1 hour ago, 1032004 said:

I don’t think it’s an elaborate scheme.

Bob calls them up and pays them a lot of money.  The end.

Not sure if true but I read that “just getting an apartment” doesn’t fulfill the RTC 250 mile requirement.

But to that point, my guess is the bigger issue was more about Brands apparently saying he can’t practice with the RTC whenever he wants, not the cost of travel to get there.

I've never seen any kid/program get penalized for the 250 mile rule and I've seen kids train across the country while still in HS. I'm assuming the last point is what happened.

[1032004]

6 minutes ago, HokieDave87 said:

I've never seen any kid/program get penalized for the 250 mile rule and I've seen kids train across the country while still in HS. I'm assuming the last point is what happened.

Who even would be responsible for enforcing the 250 mile thing?  USA Wrestling, not the NCAA, right?

Edited June 24, 2025 by 1032004

[JimmyCinnabon]

8 hours ago, PortaJohn said:

Kudos, I stand with you.  Find it admirable 

After reading everything the last few days I also think Tom Brands did the right thing. 

[JimmyCinnabon]

1 hour ago, scourge165 said:

I kinda agree. I didn't think he was a great scrambler. 

Even the first Ramos match that year, he was taken down, put on his back...then either put on his back again or taken down again, but I thought it was 8-0 or 8-1.

I didn't think he was great on his feet. He was more than good enough, but if you're saying "as complete as a wrestler as one can think of," then...I don't see it. 

He gave up TDs a few times that year on early scrambles. For a guy who was SO dominant... that seemed like a weakness. 

At LEAST relative to the rest of his Wrestling. 

I've been reading people here talking about Spencer being a great scrambler as well thinking, "what guy did they watch?" I think Spencer Lee is an unbelievable talent, but he was very meat and potatoes as far as wrestling goes. I can say the same about Zain Retherford. They dominated guys but I don't think about scrambling ability when I think about them. Spencer Lee had amazing fundamentals paired with insane grip strength that allowed him to dominate guys. Spencer definitely had a crack in his amor though and if you could exploit it you could beat him. 

Edited June 24, 2025 by JimmyCinnabon

[1032004]

9 hours ago, VakAttack said:

Uncle Chael weighs in. 

 

 

Chael offered him $1 million for his “NIL rights” (not sure what that’s even supposed to mean, TBH), and the Bassett’s didn’t even respond?  I think that gives credibility to the $5 million number…

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

2 hours ago, jackwebster said:

Pretty sure he was injured both years. He just didn't make a public statement that "I'm injured, but excuses are for wusses." Instead, he kept quiet and wrestled on one leg . . . twice.

Oh no... Cardinale's knee was very much talked about... the next year, which would be the year after he taunted injured Lee while being down by more than a touchdown.

[Wrestleknownothing]

27 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Chael offered him $1 million for his “NIL rights” (not sure what that’s even supposed to mean, TBH), and the Bassett’s didn’t even respond?  I think that gives credibility to the $5 million number…

Not necessarily if they considered the source.

[Le duke]

8 minutes ago, Coastal said:

The most ethical program that was founded by flat out cheating.   

Their entire history is based on documented and verified disregard for NCAA rules.    

Like, oh, a 50% overage in full scholarships for 10+ years?

[VakAttack]

8 hours ago, BAC said:

Not a good place?  Where did he say Iowa is "not a good place"?

I must have missed that.  Can you quote that for me?  All I saw was him saying it wasn't a good fit, which of course is entirely different since it isn't a qualitative judgment as "not a good place" is.  If he said Iowa isn't a good place, then I'll agree he badmouthed them.

I also missed where he said it wasn't a good place for him "as . . . a Christian".   I'd agree it was harsh if he said Iowa isn't a good place for Christians.  But all I saw is him saying it wasn't a good fit for his own faith journey, which is of course personal to Bo.

The fact that Bo doesn't think Iowa is a good fit in more ways than one doesn't mean he's taking shots at Iowa.  It just means there's a lack of fit on multiple levels.  None of it judges Iowa in any way.  No more than he previously found (implicitly) that every other program besides Iowa wasn't the right fit, since Iowa was.

Come on Vak.  If you find it necessary to twist the words of an 18 year old kid to make the case that he's badmouthing Iowa, then that should tell you his actual words don't get you there.  Maybe that should be the point where you pause to say, hmmm, maybe this is just grapes at the kid's expense.

You want to complain about his pop, I'll give you some sympathy, but you can't possibly think that Bo himself is out there taking shots at Iowa.  

LOL.  You're just being intentionally obtuse here as opposed to just reading the words with context.  What he said was a shot at Iowa.  Everybody but you seems to acknowledge it.  And he's allowed to take that shot ad may even be justified (although most of the scuttlebutt suggests not), but don't piss on me and swear it's raining.

[RandolphTJones]

After trying to get "all sides' of this story I have no clue where Bo will end up. Hey its a huge topic of conversation, so nice work Bassett family on getting back into the epicenter of attention. Where ever he ends up, i'm putting it right now at 50% he still transfers again anyway in the next 4-5 years.

[nuotc]

10 hours ago, BAC said:

Why stop there?  Since Iowa fans ALREADY think Bo's "not the right fit" explanation was "nasty," a "shot" against the Hawks, and "an unethical attack" against the most ethical program since the beginning of time, let's hope Bo now feels liberated to say EXACTLY why, in detail, Iowa not the right fit for what he wants in wrestling, what he wants as a person, and how they are not compatible with his faith journey. 

Details, Bo, details!  They already think you're a liar and a traitor, so no reason to hold back now, right?  Your 200K followers want to know!  Explain in detail to all the up-and-coming recruits who idolize you, and don't leave out a single description of how Iowa fell short of your expectations. 

They burned the bridge, so what do you have to lose?

Iowa fans = one guy (Chael Sonnen)? Okay then. Don't think I've seen anyone else saying that.

[PortaJohn]

5 hours ago, scourge165 said:

I kinda agree. I didn't think he was a great scrambler. 

Even the first Ramos match that year, he was taken down, put on his back...then either put on his back again or taken down again, but I thought it was 8-0 or 8-1.

I didn't think he was great on his feet. He was more than good enough, but if you're saying "as complete as a wrestler as one can think of," then...I don't see it. 

He gave up TDs a few times that year on early scrambles. For a guy who was SO dominant... that seemed like a weakness. 

At LEAST relative to the rest of his Wrestling. 

I think it is important to look at his entire body of work.  What if I used Chris Pendleton to say Ben Askren isn't actually a good scrambler

[BAC]

34 minutes ago, nuotc said:

Iowa fans = one guy (Chael Sonnen)? Okay then. Don't think I've seen anyone else saying that.

 

Shoot, there's several in this thread alone!  They all say he's taking shots at Iowa. Or just look at the comment section to Chael's video, and witness all the Iowa fans opening fire on a high school junior.  Look at the Iowa Rivals forum, and how it's open season on this kid. To quote one Iowa fan from this thread, "Everybody but you seems to acknowledge it."  

So let 'em have it, Bo.  Details.  Tell it to all the up and coming recruits who follow your every word.  Don't feel bad:  You tried to take the high road, but Iowa turned on you.  They drew first blood.

 

[Caveira]

4 minutes ago, BAC said:

high school junior.

Who can vote and serve in the military already.  
 

I remember the psu faithful trashing Bartlett’s wife a little while back.   That was classy. 

[1032004]

36 minutes ago, BAC said:

 

Shoot, there's several in this thread alone!  They all say he's taking shots at Iowa. Or just look at the comment section to Chael's video, and witness all the Iowa fans opening fire on a high school junior.  Look at the Iowa Rivals forum, and how it's open season on this kid. To quote one Iowa fan from this thread, "Everybody but you seems to acknowledge it."  

So let 'em have it, Bo.  Details.  Tell it to all the up and coming recruits who follow your every word.  Don't feel bad:  You tried to take the high road, but Iowa turned on you.  They drew first blood.

 

I’m not an Iowa fan, but his post most certainly was a shot.

And he is no longer a high school junior.

Edited June 24, 2025 by 1032004

[VakAttack]

19 minutes ago, Coastal said:

Bassett loses to Stanich - What can you expect, he's a HS Junior wrestling someone who has been in a college room for years.

Bassett decommits from Iowa - He's almost ready for an AARP card.

 

 

As opposed to the reverse that has been happening with the anti-Iowa contingent, where after he committed he was probably already topped out and is nowhere near as good a prospect as Blaze, Forrest, etc , but now Iowa is losing out on a program-changer.  Yeah, duh, welcome to online discourse.