Bo Bachelor round 2

[1032004]

28 minutes ago, HokieDave87 said:

I think it's very common for guys not within the 250 mile radius to train on their own dime at their future school. I don't know about the Jax Forrest situation where they're paying to bring him in. I guess he is on a world team so you could be bringing in a training partner but I think Iowa would be all over that if they could/wanted to be.

It also seems like a very extreme ask to bring in Keegan Bassett to help his RTC guys train. If I had to guess I'm going to guess Bill Bassett is at fault here and maybe Brands could've handled it better but overall had the right idea.

I saw someone on the PSU board say something about when Jax goes there they don’t train on the campus (similar to NLWC guys training at M2), not sure if that’s true if so then maybe it becomes  not an official RTC practice.

Edited June 23, 2025 by 1032004

[1032004]

2 hours ago, VakAttack said:

Somewhat notably, this screenshot also appeared in a Minnow Tweet, that has now mysteriously disappeared into the Great Minnow Tweet Wastebin in the Sky.

I was curious how Minnow was going to be able to simultaneously handle bashing Iowa while sucking up to the Bassetts

[feet2back]

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[1032004]

31 minutes ago, HokieDave87 said:

 

It also seems like a very extreme ask to bring in Keegan Bassett to help his RTC guys train. 

In all seriousness, he might have been a good partner for some of their women’s wrestlers…

[CHROMEBIRD]

3 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

If this is true, Iowa needs to report OkSt immediately to the NCAA compliance department. 

Has it been confirmed that OSU picks up Jax's travel tab? I figured a kid whose family moves him from North Carolina to McCort and to tournaments and camps around the country has some money to send him to Stillwater

[CHROMEBIRD]

Anyway, my hot take is that Bassett decommitted because he doesn't want to have to shovel his own snow this winter

Edited June 23, 2025 by CHROMEBIRD

[BruceyB]

47 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

An old sophomore who wrestles 99 lbs and took fourth in the state tournament is feeling mighty empowered.

a 99lber freshman placing 4th at PA States up at 106 isn't too bad, no? He's ranked #7 at 106 while being undersized. He likely wouldn't have even been able to compete in high school last year if he's still able to make 99. Man, the holdback whining is so worn out. 

[1032004]

12 minutes ago, CHROMEBIRD said:

Has it been confirmed that OSU picks up Jax's travel tab? I figured a kid whose family moves him from North Carolina to McCort and to tournaments and camps around the country has some money to send him to Stillwater

On the Iowa board there is talk (somewhat confirmed by @Husker_Du) that his travel was being paid for by a mid-40’s female “friend” that recently passed away.

Edited June 23, 2025 by 1032004

[PortaJohn]

49 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Does anyone have the post Corby made explaining the situation.  Hawk forum, prob.

He just broke down what Wille said on his podcast.  

[BAC]

21 minutes ago, HokieDave87 said:

If I had to guess I'm going to guess Bill Bassett is at fault here and maybe Brands could've handled it better but overall had the right idea.

That's kind of where I am.  I'm generally a fan of the Bassetts, but Bill himself has a history of recruiting violations, leading to sanctions against McCort that were among the most extreme in state history, and him being removed as coach for a spell (while Jax's dad took over, LOL). From the reporting so far, it isn't hard for me to see him saying, hey Jax's flights are getting paid for, ours aren't, you gotta make this happen."  

As for Brands, he seems just hard-headed enough to take offense.  There's reports he yelled and said "don't tell me how to run your program," or whatever.  Not confirmed, but tracks with Brands' personality. It wouldn't shock me if the tenor of Brands' response was as much an impetus of the Bassetts backing out than the actual position he took, which may well have been defensible. 

You have to wonder if Brands couldn't have salvaged this by taking a less confrontational tone, tell him he'll insist they either explore all legal options or take it up with the NCAA.  He could've even said he'd have someone from the AD's or GC's office call him, so Brands doesn't have to pretend he understands the legal nuances of it all.  I'm guessing there was a clash of egos here, and Brands opted not to swallow his pride.

On the other hand, I have a hunch that that the Bassett parents don't really understand how permissible it is to have travel expenses paid.  I personally have a very hard time believing that there's a carve-out for it in NCAA recruiting, as it's an exception that would swallow the rule.  My own guess is that some third party donor is paying Jax's expenses on the down-low and that, if a complaint were filed, OSU will be like "zOMG, we know nothing of that, but in any case, we can't stop what our silly donors do."  My guess is Bill will learn the practice isn't as widespread as he thinks it is.  Ironically, this may limits Bo's choices to PSU, which they can drive to, or OSU, so long as they're willing to keep the "free travel" gravy train going.

Of course this is all rank speculation, but hey, that's why I'm here.

[CHROMEBIRD]

4 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

On the Iowa board there is talk (somewhat confirmed by @Husker_Du) that his travel was being paid for by a mid-40’s female “friend” that recently passed away.

What the

[CHROMEBIRD]

4 minutes ago, BAC said:

That's kind of where I am.  I'm generally a fan of the Bassetts, but Bill himself has a history of recruiting violations, leading to sanctions against McCort that were among the most extreme in state history, and him being removed as coach for a spell (while Jax's dad took over, LOL). From the reporting so far, it isn't hard for me to see him saying, hey Jax's flights are getting paid for, ours aren't, you gotta make this happen."  

As for Brands, he seems just hard-headed enough to take offense.  There's reports he yelled and said "don't tell me how to run your program," or whatever.  Not confirmed, but tracks with Brands' personality. It wouldn't shock me if the tenor of Brands' response was as much an impetus of the Bassetts backing out than the actual position he took, which may well have been defensible. 

You have to wonder if Brands couldn't have salvaged this by taking a less confrontational tone, tell him he'll insist they either explore all legal options or take it up with the NCAA.  He could've even said he'd have someone from the AD's or GC's office call him, so Brands doesn't have to pretend he understands the legal nuances of it all.  I'm guessing there was a clash of egos here, and Brands opted not to swallow his pride.

On the other hand, I have a hunch that that the Bassett parents don't really understand how permissible it is to have travel expenses paid.  I personally have a very hard time believing that there's a carve-out for it in NCAA recruiting, as it's an exception that would swallow the rule.  My own guess is that some third party donor is paying Jax's expenses on the down-low and that, if a complaint were filed, OSU will be like "zOMG, we know nothing of that, but in any case, we can't stop what our silly donors do."  My guess is Bill will learn the practice isn't as widespread as he thinks it is.  Ironically, this may limits Bo's choices to PSU, which they can drive to, or OSU, so long as they're willing to keep the "free travel" gravy train going.

Of course this is all rank speculation, but hey, that's why I'm here.

Altering your wrestling career in such a big way, over such a small thing, is WILD. But, as I said, maybe better for all parties involved. The Bassetts sound like they might be a handful, and maybe BB can add something new to his repertoire elsewhere.

[BruceyB]

54 minutes ago, BAC said:

Point being:  I can't see any good reason why OSU should be allowed to pay for Jax's flights, if that's what's happening.  Would be really curious to know how widespread that practice is, and what legal rationale they're using.  

I don't think any legitimate sources have confirmed or denied that OKST is paying for Jax's travel to and from Stillwater. Likewise, there haven't been any confirmed sources that have said the Bassett's were expecting their travel to be paid for, and/or who's expenses they wanted covered.

The only things that seem to be facts at this point is that Jax has been spending a good amount of time training at Oklahoma State, and when Bill reached out to Brands wanting Bo (and likely Melvin and Keegan) to have similar training opportunities at Iowa, he was told they couldn't due to a compliance issue.

If the numbers that Bo was supposedly going to make through NIL at Iowa are remotely true, a few planes tickets seems like a pretty trivial reason to decommit from a school you have been heavily endorsing since February. Especially when you're a family that flies all over the country year round to attend every major tournament.

[WrestlingRasta]

42 minutes ago, Coastal said:

FACT - Bo Bassett idolized Spencer Lee.  FACT -Bo Bassett spent more time with Spencer Lee.  FACT -Bo Bassett decommited from Iowa.   

Iowa missed their chance to land Taylor and now there's just not a proven option for the next coach.   

 

Doug Schwab 

[BAC]

9 minutes ago, BruceyB said:

I don't think any legitimate sources have confirmed or denied that OKST is paying for Jax's travel to and from Stillwater. Likewise, there haven't been any confirmed sources that have said the Bassett's were expecting their travel to be paid for, and/or who's expenses they wanted covered.

The only things that seem to be facts at this point is that Jax has been spending a good amount of time training at Oklahoma State, and when Bill reached out to Brands wanting Bo (and likely Melvin and Keegan) to have similar training opportunities at Iowa, he was told they couldn't due to a compliance issue.

If the numbers that Bo was supposedly going to make through NIL at Iowa are remotely true, a few planes tickets seems like a pretty trivial reason to decommit from a school you have been heavily endorsing since February. Especially when you're a family that flies all over the country year round to attend every major tournament.

Agree with all of this.  To your last point, I'm always skeptical when I hear about NIL dollars, but bear in mind that they're over a year away from seeing any of that income.  All those flights/hotels could quickly add up, and that's all on a high school teacher's salary.  I can see how it's a really big deal.  Still, given how sudden this seemingly was, and with the whole family cutting ties, you have to think there was some testiness to the final exchange.  Rational people would try to work through this, especially when there's so much invested on both sides in the whole "Bassetts to Iowa" thing.

You're right that confirmed facts are very limited, but I'd wager a fair sum that there was a clash of adult egos here, and the Bassett kids are following their parents' lead.

[BruceyB]

2 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

Doug Schwab 

Doug Schwab ain't moving the needle.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

1 hour ago, Mr. PeanutButter said:

Since you so conveniently moved the goal posts I will heretofore contend that anytime Lee scores, it's a scramble. Anytime he gets scored on, his opponent "hit a move"

And "Matt Ramos"

[WrestlingRasta]

4 minutes ago, BruceyB said:

Doug Schwab ain't moving the needle.

I’d have to respectfully disagree 

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

1 hour ago, HokieDave87 said:

I think it's very common for guys not within the 250 mile radius to train on their own dime at their future school. I don't know about the Jax Forrest situation where they're paying to bring him in. I guess he is on a world team so you could be bringing in a training partner but I think Iowa would be all over that if they could/wanted to be.

It also seems like a very extreme ask to bring in Keegan Bassett to help his RTC guys train. If I had to guess I'm going to guess Bill Bassett is at fault here and maybe Brands could've handled it better but overall had the right idea.

It as a thing when there was NLI.  NLI has disappeared as of last year, I believe.

RTC rules:

https://assets.contentstack.io/v3/assets/blteb7d012fc7ebef7f/blt06815c1d8208fb85/67c62f305108fbfbf835ff0c/Regional_Training_Center_Criteria.pdf

Funny, I don't see the "private school workaround," and if it ever existed, it prob existed for boarding schools.

Edited June 24, 2025 by Interviewed_at_Weehawken

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

59 minutes ago, Coastal said:

FACT - Bo Bassett idolized Spencer Lee.  FACT -Bo Bassett spent more time with Spencer Lee.  FACT -Bo Bassett decommited from Iowa.   

Iowa missed their chance to land Taylor and now there's just not a proven option for the next coach.   

 

Was Taylor a proven option.  Is he a proven option?

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

38 minutes ago, PortaJohn said:

He just broke down what Wille said on his podcast.  

Not what I saw.  I saw something on FB that went to the places that I think Willie didn't want to go.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

6 minutes ago, Coastal said:

Teams all over Pennsylvania do what McCourt was punished for.   McCourt was punished because Luke Sipes of Altoona, a North Carolina commit, was going to transfer to Bishop McCourt and Altoona threw a fit with District 6, threatening to make their fieldhouse unavailable.   In that part of rural PA, almost every decent size event is held in Altoona as it's the only sizable gym in the region.  The PIAA regularly uses Altoona facilities also so they have an immense amount of power for a school district.   Altoona had the SW regional and NW regional on back to back weekends in the past.

District 6 found a kid willing to testify that he was transferring to Bishop McCourt solely to wrestle.  It wasn't a kid that could ever start so it wasn't like he was recruited.   They banned McCourt for a couple of years from the state tournament.  Faith Cristian, Bethlehem Catholic.. plenty of private schools openly recruit and even some of the public ones like Reynolds and Waynesburg.   

*McCort

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

5 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Not what I saw.  I saw something on FB that went to the places that I think Willie didn't want to go.

Corby: Bill wanted the kids to train in Iowa City like Jax is in Stillwater and pay for his flights and Iowa compliance said that's illegal.Bo can only train in Iowa City for a camp for a certain # of days he doesn't live within 250 miles of Iowa City. Bill kept insisting they FIGURE it out. And Tom told him and and his wife don't tell me how to run my program. They said he YELLED at us . Most people who want power take being told no as being YELLED at. Iowa isn't paying HS kids and other programs are. Other programs are giving HS kids vehicles as well. Jax made final x and Bo lost at U20 and Bill couldn't handle it.

 

 

[bnwtwg]

1 hour ago, BAC said:

Might as well make it first class and throw in some hookers

Hey Kyle! Never knew we had an all-timer among us!

[HokieDave87]

23 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

I’d have to respectfully disagree 

Schwab is no DT, but he definitely would move the needle