David Carr vs Keegan O'Toole 2/15

[lightweight]

1 minute ago, PortaJohn said:

Hi Fiving my fellow 27.27% that picked Carr

Yes, so much for 'the wisdom of crowds'.

[Wrestej]

Ouch.  Hurts being a fan.  Learning lesson for all involved.

[goheels1812]

Took me a second to figure out where this board moved to (been busy with new baby and life), but just wanted to say WOW about Carr. That’s an absolute master class in neutralizing O’Toole’s elite scrambling. He stuck O’Toole’s hips to the mat and never gave him much of a chance to get funky. Using that leg for constant leverage was great stuff. Kudos to Dresser for getting him coached up and kudos to Carr for executing the gameplan to perfection. I need to see this one again in March. 

[Le duke]

Hi Fiving my fellow 27.27% that picked Carr

I’m very surprised it was that low.

Also, Askren mentioned that Keegan might go up to 174 next year. Great idea if he wants to finish 3rd, I guess.


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[Dark Energy]

The technical acumen Carr showed to get the first TD was awesome.  And then for the second, he knew Keegan was going to try to throw leg over again — was ready for it … and then, what an excellent methodical finish.  Turned me into a big fan.

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[PortaJohn]

1 minute ago, Le duke said:

I’m very surprised it was that low.

Also, Askren mentioned that Keegan might go up to 174 next year. Great idea if he wants to finish 3rd, I guess.


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I'm not surprised at all.  The crowd always falls in love with the unorthodox crafty wrestler.

[SocraTease]

Facundo kept it closer with Carr (4-2 loss) than KOT.  Surprising.  

Carr vs. KOT again at Big 12s unless one of them ducks in the final.

And then perhaps again at NCAAs.

[nhs67]

Who else had O'Toole for the duck?

That beating?  That was clearly a stunt double.

[Fadzaev2]

28 minutes ago, goheels1812 said:

Took me a second to figure out where this board moved to (been busy with new baby and life), but just wanted to say WOW about Carr. That’s an absolute master class in neutralizing O’Toole’s elite scrambling. He stuck O’Toole’s hips to the mat and never gave him much of a chance to get funky. Using that leg for constant leverage was great stuff. Kudos to Dresser for getting him coached up and kudos to Carr for executing the gameplan to perfection. I need to see this one again in March. 

Carr's dad's not a bad coach either, and Nate having battled Kenny Monday so many times and the history of that series, only made sense for this series to begin tonight, as they can see each other twice more this year.

[flyingcement]

Very impressive match by Carr.  Bravo

[scourge165]

12 hours ago, bnwtwg said:

No. As a matter of fact, Kevin Dresser and his team will take on all comers. It doesn't matter if they are 4th string teammates because the Cyclones never back down! They will keep fighting down to The Last Chance!

This...is 12 hours old, so I hope I don't look like an asshole, but that's exactly what I thought about Iowa State...and then O'Toole has that Askren arrogance(which he has earned). 

 

[flyingcement]

Caliendo is going to smoke both these guys anyway :)

[Fadzaev2]

I feel bad for the "Flo" haters....they missed a great match.  Oh maybe I don't feel bad.  (it's all good...to each his own)

[El Luchador]

What was the final score? 

[scourge165]

3 hours ago, El Luchador said:

What was the final score? 

7-2

[cangemi]

I can see this going other way as well. 

Looked like opportunities where there and came up carr.

Kudos both kids . Was so impressed the way they both handled interview before and after.

Frank C

[82bordeaux]

That was the most fun I had watching a wrestling match in a long time.

Thanks to both for not ducking. I voted KOT duck BTW. Smart of him not to. Now he has things to work on.

[Idaho]

On 2/14/2023 at 4:31 PM, Rassling said:

O'Toole will not be beaten this year.

 

 

[Gus]

10 hours ago, PortaJohn said:

I'm not surprised at all.  The crowd always falls in love with the unorthodox crafty wrestler.

Especially when the unorthodox crafty wrestler uses those skills to win NCAA & jr world titles.

[1032004]

11 hours ago, PortaJohn said:

I'm not surprised at all.  The crowd always falls in love with the unorthodox crafty wrestler.

I don't think it's that as much as O'Toole being undefeated last season, Carr losing to Hunter Willits then moving up a weight

[Perry]

Great match last night. Really impressed by Carr's ability to be patient when needed to finish those single legs as well as his mat game. Excited to see these guys hopefully wrestle again soon. 

[PortaJohn]

1 hour ago, 1032004 said:

I don't think it's that as much as O'Toole being undefeated last season, Carr losing to Hunter Willits then moving up a weight

Fair point.  I didn't put much stock into the Willits loss when picking Carr.  Very interested to see the adjustments KOT makes for the rematch 

[Wrestleknownothing]

8 minutes ago, PortaJohn said:

Fair point.  I didn't put much stock into the Willits loss when picking Carr.  Very interested to see the adjustments KOT makes for the rematch 

That is the part that fascinates me too. Unless Carr wins big again at B12 or NCAA's I would still call a re-match a pick 'em.

[Formally140]

Very good match by Carr but that’s a very reversible result next time. O’Toole seems like the kind of wrestler you don’t want to give multiple looks

Props to both side for having no quackery

[Ivan Stankowski]

Will O'Toole and Mocco enter the transfer portal after this year, neither seem to be improving in the Missouri wrestling room, any chance they transfer to Wisconsin and wrestle for Bono and are closer to AWA?