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you do understand they are talking about 1) limited number and 2) a process. a documented process what part of this crazy, complicated theorem can't you lefty nut bags figure out? what part of 'multiple-time convicted rapist/murders that were deported again and again and have repeat offenses' doesn't register in your beetle brain?

Peanut Butter and Mustard sounds disgusting

I few of my best memories of Midlands include....Owings getting beat by Clyde Smith to eliminate the rematch of Owings vs. Gable in 1970, Jimmy Carr vs. Don Behm in the finals...Behm RD. , watching Cary Kolat take 3rd as a high school junior if I'm not mistaken, watching, Ben and John Peterson, Gable, Hellickson, Schalles, Chris Taylor, how about the Gibbons vs. Lewis match which was a prelude to the rematch where Randy got hurt so bad, a young John Fisher tech falling Olympic Silver medalist Barry Davis in an early round. I just looked at some older brackets, and many weights had 3-4 eventual NCAA Champions in it. Those were some special years at the Midlands. Here is a link to past brackets for your viewing enjoyment.....you'll probably have to zoom in on each bracket and the weights are out of order in all of them. https://nusports.com/sports/2015/6/26/MIDLANDS_0626155320

Braxton Amos is not wrestling at Midlands. Originally he and several other Wisconsin wrestlers were registered but I've since heard from the Wisconsin coaching staff that they're not sending any wrestlers to Midlands.

Bassett and Forest had Ohio State headgear on...

It used to be the second toughest tournament of the year, not just Xmas, and some weight classes you could make an argument were tougher than NCAA.

Saw that Anthony Knox (Beast of the East) and Alessio Perentin (Powerade) are both sporting Cornell headgear in tournaments. Great marketing. Any other schools doing this?

Wow , this tourney is loaded

He was originally included among Wisconsin's registered wrestlers. Since that time, Wisconsin seems to have removed their registered wrestlers on Track (unless it was a mistake). Some folks on the Wisconsin board mentioned that Amos is going to be wrestling unattached in Midlands while the rest of the Wisconsin squad does not attend.

NDSU just sending three: 125 Tanimoto, 141 Olson, 174 Magayna.

I was lucky enough to call Trenge a teammate my very first year of wrestling in 1992. This is one of his most famous matches. Here is an old highlight video:

But is it true they've asked AJ to sing the national anthem while doing the splits? 🏎

You mean Jad don't you? I'm sure @MedicineMan has a pic.

if you don't see that the US culture/establishments continue to lower the bar in both their systems and rhetoric, i don't know what to tell you. i guess you're just bad at paying attention. you're going to sit there with a straight face and tell me that the current trend is one in which meritocracy is increasingly valued?

One more thing to keep in mind is my estimates for PSU tend to be on the low side. They have a tendency to do slightly better than their seeds and my model assumes they match the field (slightly worse for higher seeds). When comparing across the top teams (at least 40 AAs from 2010 to 2024) it is useful to keep the following in mind. Penn State tends to have the fewest wrestlers underperform their seed, resulting in slightly outperforming their seed in spite of having the highest average seed. Iowa has had the opposite experience. So you may want to factor that in when handicapping.

It's kind of sad that Gable was willing to come back for presumably a significant amount of money, but he doesn't care enough to wrestle more than basically the bare minimum. Edit: fix a typo.

Yeah, that word "scheduled" is doing some work in that sentence.

The FALL is CALLED... ... when the ref SAYS so! D3

Maybe the headline “Gophers sending all 10, or 9 rather without Gable” didn’t sit well with him.

didn't no English?

One time. At band camp. I saw something bad. I know this one guy. Who saw this thing. It was on tv.

She hasn't been speaker in years.

These probable lineups have a long history of being unreliable. I will wait until brackets are out before spilling my mustard

Minnesota is sending the big guns: "The Gophers are scheduled to send 26 wrestlers to the Salute, including all 10 who appear in the latest Intermat rankings: No. 1 Gable Steveson (285 pounds), No. 4 Max McEnelly (184 pounds), No. 5 Isaiah Salazar (197), No. 6 Tommy Askey, (157), No. 6 Vance VomBaur (141), No. 9 Cooper Flynn (125), No. 9 Andrew Sparks (165), No. 11 Tyler Wells (133), No. 21 Drew Roberts (149) and No. 23 Clayton Whiting (174). https://gophersports.com/news/2024/12/27/wrestling-gophers-return-to-action-at-soldier-salute

I'll take that action.

Some interesting developments there.

Is it hearsay if they post it all over social media? People like Vivek are the people who turn Boeing into a company that chases squeezing the last dime out of every process instead of making excellent, reliable products. He doesn’t actually believe what he’s saying; he wants to hire H1B visa holders do the same jobs for half the pay (or less). Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

This isn't the same thing, but in a similar vein:

I’ve been in IT my whole life. They have been offshoring tech jobs for *I poop my pants, don't laugh at me*…. 25+ years in pretty large volume. Ireland. India. Poland. Ukraine. Russia. China. Everywhere basically.

I much prefer Trackwrestling over Flo in pretty much every regard. It is less of a gap on the desktop, but on mobile, Track is considerably easier to navigate.

Its' the same delusion on the board every...single...year.... If this happens and this happens, then Iowa has a shot....and they never do.

I’m more convinced the H1b visa is a scam. Most of the H1b jobs don’t require a college degree, which is why half of our STEM graduates won’t take those jobs, and the companies that hire them have a bad habit of laying off American workers to fill those jobs with foreign workers who don’t have the right to negotiate their wages or change employers. https://thenationalpulse.com/analysis-post/big-techs-h1b-arguments-arent-just-false-theyre-also-immoral/

It’s not winning an Oscar, but I thought it was hilarious and really enjoyed it. Here’s why: 1. Two of my favorites, Will Ferrell and wrestling, together in one movie. 2. We’ve all seen the hyped up kid who thinks he’s going to conquer the world, but goes out there and gets pinned right away. I thought the kid portrayed that character pretty well. 3. The kid busting into a therapy session for a suicidal patient because his dad the therapist is missing his match….over the top but they pulled it off. 4. Regarding the head lock/hip toss, I agree that way too many wrestling movies don’t have the most realistic wrestling and show many more throws than actually happen. But in this case the kid said in the movie he was wrestling “a beast”, and when the match started he ran right into him. Ideal for a good throw. 5. I thought the ending was great, kid gets pinned, dad and patient are in the stands and everyone is happy.

From WIN Magazine Year by Year at the Midlands The following is a chronological look at the 49 past Midlands tournaments which have been hosted by Northwestern University. Year Team Champ / Runner-up Notes 1963 Michigan / Southern Illinois Wolverine Mike Palmisano (115) earned an overtime pin as first Midlands champ; both Michigan and SIU featured three champs each in LaGrange, Ill. 1964 Michigan / Michigan State Former Oklahoma State champ Masaaki Hatta defeated eventual Michigan State AA Don Behm, 8-5, for 130-pound title 1965 Iowa State / Michigan State Former NCAA champ Larry Kristoff claimed third title; Team champ Cyclones featured three champs, including Buzzard brothers Bob (152) and Don (191) 1966 Michigan State / Mayor Daley WC Iowa State freshman, not yet NCAA eligible, Dan Gable (130) defeated Masaaki Hatta for first of six Midlands championships 1967 Iowa State / Michigan State In a battle of eventual NCAA champs Gable needed OT to beat Michigan State’s Dale Anderson at 137; Behm beat Hatta, 8-3, to avenge 1964 Midlands 1968 Michigan State / Iowa State Chuck Jean beat his Iowa State teammate Jason Smith for 177-pound title; Toledo’s 115-pound Dave Keller won second title in three years 1969 Michigan State / Michigan Six Spartans met in three finals; Mike Ellis over Tom Milkovich (134), Lane Headrick beating Ron Ovellet (150) and Pat Karslake over Gerald Malecek (167) 1970 Iowa State / Michigan State OSU brothers Dewayne and Darrell Keller each won at 126 and 134; ISU’s giant HWT Chris Taylor needed OT to beat Toledo’s Greg Wojciechowski 1971 Iowa State / Michigan State The Peterson brothers — Stout’s John (177) and Iowa State’s Ben (190) — each won; Gable’s last (31st) Midlands win over Clyde Smith for sixth title 1972 Iowa State / Oklahoma State Clarion’s Wade Schalles earned 158-pound title and O.W. honors with four pins; Michigan’s Jim Brown beat Midlands champ Dan Sherman (118) of Iowa 1973 Oklahoma State / Michigan Olympian Jimmy Carr (126) was named OW with title; Michigan’s Jerry Hubbard needed OT to beat Wisconsin’s Rich Lawinger at 150 1974 Iowa / Iowa State Former Wolverine Don Behm beat Kentucky’s Jimmy Carr on referee’s decision to claim 134-pound title and OW honors 1975 Iowa / Iowa State Minnesota’s Larry Zilverberg beat Olympian Stan Dziedzic in 167 final for OW honors; Wisconsin’s Lee Kemp (158) claims first Midlands championship 1976 Iowa / Oklahoma State OW Harold Smith of Kentucky beat OSU’s Jimmy Jackson at HWT; 126-pound Jay Swanson (South Dakota State) earned Midlands’ record fall in 0:12 1977 Iowa / Hawkeye WC Two unattached wrestlers won titles: Mike McArthur (OW) at 118 and Willie Gadson, who won in overtime bout in 190 final 1978 Iowa / Hawkeye WC Schalles recorded four falls to earn OW award and 167-pound championship; former Hawkeyes Chuck Yagla and Chris Campbell won for Club 1979 Iowa / Hawkeye WC Ben Peterson (190) tied Gable’s record of six titles; Schalles beat Dave Schultz in 158-pound final; Iowa’s Randy Lewis named OW after beating Cysewski 1980 Iowa / Wisconsin WC Iowa’s Lennie Zalesky (142) was named first Champion of Champions; Indiana State’s Bruce Baumgartner pinned Iowa’s Lou Banach in 1:59 at HWT 1981 Iowa State / Hawkeye WC Iowa State’s Joe Gibbons beat Iowa’s Mark Trizzino on ref’s decision at 126; ISU’s Nate Carr (177) and Mike Mann (190) also won to break Iowa streak 1982 Iowa / Oklahoma State Nebraska’s OW Al Freeman upset Randy Lewis and Lehigh’s Darryl Burley at 142; future Michigan coach Joe McFarland beat Gene Mills, 7-6, at 126 1983 Iowa / Hawkeye WC First time four brothers placed at Midlands: Jackson, Harlan, Lindsey and Marty Kistler; Scott Trizzino (167) first to place at four different weights 1984 Sunkist WC / Iowa Bill Scherr (190) named Champ of Champs to claim four titles for Sunkist; joining brother Jim (177) as well as Charlie Heard (126) & Gary Bohay (134) 1985 Iowa / Sunkist Kids WC 142-pound Gene Mills (NYAC) named OW; Michigan frosh Brandon O’Donahue had five pins , including tourney fastest in 31 seconds 1986 North Carolina / Sunkist Kids WC Baumgartner broke Midlands record with seventh championship and 35 straight wins; Current Cornell coach Rob Koll won 158-pound title for Tar Heels 1987 Sunkist Kids WC / Wisconsin Champ of Champs Mike Sheets (177) led Sunkist to title; Ed Giese of the Gopher WC named OW with 118-pound title; Wisconsin led by Jeff Jordan (150) 1988 Sunkist Kids WC / Iowa Lock Haven’s Mike Lingenfelter (134) captured OW and Gorrarian awards, pinning five foes in 8:13, including one in 19 seconds 1989 Arizona State / Sunkist Kids WC Zeke Jones (118), OW Andy McNaughton (134), Thom Ortiz (142), Ray Miller (158) and Dan St. John (167) won titles for Sun Devils 1990 Iowa / Sunkist Kids WC For the first time since first tournament there were 10 first-time champs, including Iowa’s Tom Brands (134) and Tom Ryan (158) 1991 No Team Scores Oklahoma State’s Alan Fried beat Tom Brands to earn OW and Champ of Champs honors; HWT Tom Erikson broke his own record with fall in 0:08 1992 Iowa / Sunkist Kids WC Mike Schmidlin (150) did not place but tied Midlands record with 51st career match and set weight record with 32 wins 1993 No Team Scores Penn State’s Cary Kolat avenged ‘93 NCAA final loss to North Carolina’s T.J. Jaworsky with 134-pound title and OW honors 1994 No Team Scores Iowa frosh Joe Williams (158) won first of 10 titles; current Maryland coach Kerry McCoy (Penn State) beat future Olympic champ Rulon Gardner at HWT 1995 No Team Scores Iowa’s Jeff McGinness pinned four of five foes to earn 126-pound title as well as OW, Champ of Champs and Gorrarian Awards 1996 Iowa / Edinboro Iowa had three champs (Mark Ironside, Lincoln McIlravy and Williams); just one more than Bakersfield’s Cody Wright (126) and HWT Stephen Neal 1997 Iowa / Illinois Edinboro’s Jason Robison (190) beat Iowa’s Lee Fullhart to claim Champ of Champ honors; Joe Williams beat Brandon Slay in preview of NCAA final 1998 Iowa / Iowa State Central Michigan’s two-time titlist Casey Cunningham (157) named Champ of Champ; three-time champ Stephen Neal also had most pins in least time 1999 Iowa / Illinois Iowa State’s Cael Sanderson (184) beat Illinois’ Nate Patrick for first Midlands title; six weights won by non-collegiate club wrestlers 2000 Minnesota / Iowa State Team champ Gophers featured just one champ: Jared Lawrence, who won 149-pound title as a No. 4 seed 2001 Iowa / Iowa State Cael Sanderson joined Gable as only four-time Midlands champ without a loss; current Clarion coach Troy Letters became 7,500th Midlands entry 2002 Iowa / Ohio State Joe Williams (174) breaks Baumgartner’s record with ninth championship; Cornell’s Travis Lee (125) was named Champ of Champs 2003 Illinois / Iowa State In addition to 10th Midlands title, Williams set records for most (55) and consecutive victories (51); Tommy Rowlands (Hwt) joins “20 wins in 4 year” club 2004 Illinois / Iowa Stanford’s Matt Gentry (157) became just the 7th wrestler to win OW and Champ of Champ honors; Jake Herbert claims first Northwestern title in 30 years 2005 Illinois / Central Michigan Herbert beat Iowa’s Mark Perry, 5-4, in 174-pound final; Bakersfield’s unseeded Tommy Vargas upset the No. 1 seed and claims 133-pound title 2006 Iowa State / Iowa ISU mentor Cael Sanderson joined Dan Gable as only men to win Midlands titles as wrestlers and coach; MSU’s Nick Simmons joined “20 in 4” club 2007 Iowa / Iowa State While Mark Perry captured Champ of Champs and Gorrarian awards, Iowa State’s Jake Varner upset Jake Herbert in overtime of 174-pound title bout 2008 Iowa / Iowa State Wisconsin’s Zach Tanelli upset Harvard’s No. 1-seed Corey Jantzen and eventually won title at 141; Maryland’s Hudson Taylor recorded five falls at 197 2009 Iowa / Iowa State In a preview of 125 NCAA final, Iowa’s Matt McDonough beat Iowa State’s Andrew Long; Maryland’s Alex Krom beat #1 Jimmy Kennedy (Illinois) at 141 2010 Missouri / Wisconsin Without an individual title, Tigers win first Midlands team title; No. 8 seed Chase Nelson (Oklahoma) upset No. 1 seed and wins title at 157 2011 Iowa / Northwestern Oklahoma’s Kendric Maple (141) named Champ of Champs after beating Iowa’s Montell Marion; Former Boilermaker Jake Patacsil claims title at 149

Damn good question.

Midlands has never provided accurate information. Its part of their charm.

You sure you want to start all over again?

It's my understanding that ILLINOIS is not sending their starters except for Caelan Riley. The Northwestern site lists 37 teams attending, and the list in the original post has 37 teams named. Wrestlestat.com has 20 teams scheduled for the Midlands, but that's because they only put them on the schedule if they are on the team's official schedule. I expect that like the ILLINI, Michigan, Ohio State, Missouri, Lehigh and a few others are sending partial squads. With 13 Orange and Blue wrestlers attending, that means a fun-filled Sunday and Monday for me! Get to see the young guns! The tournament doesn't have the star power at the top, but most of the weights have 10+ guys ranked in the top fifty-ish at Wrestlestat.com. We went last year and were a corporate sponsor, but it wasn't on the school's schedule this season, so we passed. Maybe we'll be back next year.

Amen. Sign me up.

Buckshot, I agree wit you 100% regarding making it hard to watch! Every article written about upcoming events should include date and time of said event! Flo and Track should include in their dashboards when each session of tournaments starts and which round will be wrestled which session. One shouldn't need to be logged on to their device to be able to determine if the semis are tonight or first thing in the morning when sitting in the gym! My big pet peeve is the stream for events not starting until moments before the whistle blows! No.way to.tell if you have jumped through the right hoops to log in to watch and by the time you figure it out, 3 matches have been wrestled.

that must have been very difficult for you

Top five life moment.

especially great a Christmas time !

That dude seriously defies gravity. I have never seen anyone move like him.

A couple active coaches came close but no cigar. Eggum and Kish.

Jon trenge?

Always felt like Poeta got jobbed by the ref in his finals against Leen as well.

Great. Officials can get 20 different colors of wristbands now.

Is there really a problem here? Let's say blue is wrestling yellow, does the ref put the blue arm band on his right or left wrist? How does that muscle memory work when the ref has black band on right and orange on left?