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so this is the fault of the wrestling coach and not the administration? at least you're consistent in stanning for politicians.

Steve Sanderson was passed over for the BYU job, they went with Mark Schultz. Keep in mind that the program was not fully funded and didn't have a full time assistant. I am not sure why Schultz would want a job that like that, but that was his choice. Steve was so upset about BYU picking Schultz that he swore "his boys would NOT go to BYU!" Imagine if the Sanderson boys had gone to BYU or another school out west. Would the landscape out west be different today? Would BYU, Boise State, and UC Davis still have a program?

It's less grassroots and more "if I'm going to college I don't want to stay home." That's a big hurdle to overcome considering NIU isn't exactly known for its stellar academics. Kids can get into Iowa with the same test scores and be given in-state tuition. Smart kids get into Illinois, Michigan, or Indiana for B-school/music. All those are better experiences than NIU. It's a big hurdle.

I think they also got in trouble because redshirt wrestlers had transportation and lodging provided by the team. Seay instructed the wrestlers to lie and not tell the investigators the truth initially and then by the time that they told the truth they had pissed of the NCAA so much that they were made an example of. The punishment didn’t necessarily fit the crime, but they were not honest up front and it cost them. They lost Jaworsky because of this. The guys that had redshirts available (like pat smith) stuck around and used their redshirt. Some guys (like Alan Fried) were super loyal and stuck around despite losing a year of eligibility.

Pat Smith did not win/wrestle in the 93 tournament. That was the year Ok State was banned. Since Smith wrestled/won as a Freshman, he was able to redshirt in 93. Others who did not have a redshirt to burn that year either transferred (e.g., Jaworsky) or lost a year (e.g., Fried). The supposed wrongdoings I have heard about that led to the ban seem relatively innocuous. I don't recall previously hearing about money earned at camps, instead it was wrestlers in redshirt or otherwise not on the roster traveling to opens using team funds. Or something like that.

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I agree that things were kind of a mess when Eggum inherited. We are going into year 8 now so it’s time to make the jump for the gophers. Maybe the expectations in Minny are not as high as I have perceived them to be.

I know UNI's team and Parker, in particular, really embrace the blue-collar brawler aesthetic, but geez. These guys are literally lugging equipment and mats around, painting and doing construction work on their own sparse facilities. I've been in MANY high schools with much nicer resources. Panther train literally traded headgear for hardhats. Meanwhile you look at the FLO "7 campuses in 7 days" videos and there are some teams that have some incredible facilities who UNI has recently beaten (tOSU). It all reminds me of Cary Kolat's story about the cold water pipe in Mongolia. How can you not root for UNI!

Sounds like its a little deeper than that. From what I read over on Twitter/X, UNI dragged their feet on providing any type of updates to West Gym and then they just condemned the building. On top of that it sounds like they offered no other options for training facilities so the coaches and the wrestlers had to find their own building and make it "mat ready" without any support from the university. https://x.com/knarkill/status/1706555586941210690?s=20

With the World Championships wrapped up and the College season about 6 weeks away, it is time to start revving the NCAA engine a little. Let's start by looking at All-Americans. And let's get this out of the way up front. Yes, I include the top 8 seeds from the cancelled 2020 tournament. So sue me. AA Trivia There have been 190 schools with at least one All-American. A total of 5,590 All-American honors have been shared by 3,307 wrestlers (or perhaps fewer if I have some mis-spellings). In 1981 there were only 79 All-Americans as there was no 8th place awarded at 134. Oklahoma State, at 480 AA's, is a full 32.6% ahead of Iowa's 362. The longest active streak of consecutive years with at least one All-American belongs to Iowa at 52 years. The longest dry spell is Army at 15 years. They last had an AA in 2008 (Matt Kyler, 141). The Top 5 At each team's current pace (average of 2022 and 2023): Iowa will overtake Oklahoma State for the all time lead in 2057. Penn State will overtake Iowa in 2101. Cael Sanderson will be 121 years old and still wondering if Christian Pyle has a plan. AA's By Total Wrestlers with 5 AAs: 6 Wrestlers with 4 AAs: 171 Wrestlers with 3 AAs: 447 Wrestlers with 2 AAs: 852 Wrestlers with 1 AAs: 1,830 Probability of AA by Year We are used to 33 man brackets with 8 AA's per bracket (~24%), but it wasn't always that way. Using the rules that existed at the time and @Jason Bryant's participation stats by year, the most difficult year to AA was 1970 when only 15% of wrestlers earned AA status. Where the AA's Come From Not every AA was a top 8 seed to begin with. Below is the percentage of AA's by seed (left column) and broken into the seeding eras. What Is A Top 8 Seed Worth? Seven of the past nine years have been hard on Top 8 seeds. From 2014 to present, only 2017 and 2019 saw them perform above trend.

Nope. Everybody (as in every body not immersed permanently in water) was exposed to the corona virus. It was in the air like oxygen. Some got very sick and died, some very sick and went to the hospital, some got a little sick, some got sniffles, and the rest were asymptomatic. Just like flu every year. But the covid virus ATE the influenza virus. That is the only possible way an aerosol transmitted virus JUST LIKE COVID-19 disappears! It is impossible that something transmitted exactly like corona virus that logic tells us would have been side by side with corona virus simply disappears! Unless COVID ATE THE FLU!! 8 year average estimated flu deaths in USA from flu seasons 2012/13 - 2019/20 = 48,000. Standard Deviation = 11,500 Flu Deaths in 2020/21 estimated about 1,000. This is a z-score of -4.06. A once per 50,000 year event!!! Flu Deaths in 2021/22 estimated about 11,000 (it is becoming OK for people to die of flu, Brandon is president). Still a z-score of -3.2. A once per 1,400 year event. Hospitals were still being paid for Covid deaths. Flu Deaths in most recent season, 2022/23 = 38,000. Which is low but less than 1 std dev below normal. We expect a number this low about 1 of every 5 years. Much much less covid hanging about in the air eating up all those flu viruses so things return to normal. So, the only logical conclusion is that COVID ate the Flu. It's just science.

Zain Retherford, World Champion.

A picture is worth a thousand words.

the bottom line is the team has no where to go. could there be anything more embarrassing than a DI program (in any sport) not having facilities. who gives an eff if the onus is on the old AD, the New AD, or anyone else?

My .02 for what it is worth, for this situation it doesn't matter what anyone thinks of the rule, if you don't like it fight the rule, but as long as it is the rule, you have to follow it, if people got to decide and only follow rules they liked then there are no rules. And I don't care if he missed the meeting, he knew the rule, every athletics department in the country hammers the gambling point, I sat through multiple compliance presentations in college and the fact that the NCAA considers gambling a cardinal sin was hammered into our brains for over an hour every year. The only relevance to him missing the meeting is that it is supposed to be a mandatory meeting and someone will have to answer for that. And no that does not mean LOIC type of for the people pushing that angle.

Marxist revolution?

The Iowa-Illinois tuition reciprocity ended a couple years ago.

Thanks, Biden.

It's definitely a hurdle but if Central Michigan and Northern Iowa were able to get to that next level with similar issues, there's no reason to think NIU can't get there right the right coaching and recruiting. I don't think settling for the status quo is what should be done in Dekalb...

Seems to be rather tall...

as Broomstick posted, Smith did not win in '93 as they did not compete in the NCAA tournament or even the Big 8 tournament that year. Pat won his titles in '90, '91, '92, and '94. trivial - a HS 'mate of mine had his picture in AWN during the 90 tournament. It was a pic of Pat Smith pinning him.

Don't know much about the current guy but Grant had a reputation for running, literally and figuratively, guys off the team. If it is the case, maybe that's where he picked it up.

Yes, that's why I said "for a while." Cael would've won occasionally at Iowa St, he is just that good of coach, but we had parity. Sure JRob & Tom B had figured out ways to get extra wrestlers but what Cael did at PSU was well beyond this and all this was well before NIL. PSU was even beyond what Gable was able to do back in the era before the 9.9 limit.

Minnesota had an alleged drug distribution ring busted, WTF are you even talking about lol.

No PA kid is going to move halfway across the country just to end up in the cornfields of DeKalb. And the D1 Illinois kids don't want to end up at NIU when they can go literally anywhere but a town 50 miles past the end of the suburbs. Poeta is having a brutal time at the marquee state school so I am unsure if even a hotshot assistant the likes of Ramos could make headway. NIU (and EIU back in the day) are where you go if you are only a state placer/1x champ/small school champ but want to keep wrestling while also staying close to home without paying Elmhurst or Wheaton tuition. Otherwise you quit wrestling and go to any of the B1G schools for the best 4 years of your life.

Here's wat I know and it ain't much. I think Seay was dismissed in '91, and then in '93 Oklahoma State was not allowed to compete in the NCAA tournament. I don't recall the details of that '93 sanction and if it was anything that went back to issues under Seay's watch.

The guy who cared enough to create this topic?

I agree with the facts of your post. But I have a different take on the interpretation. If someone other than Trump were in office the counting would have been the same. Political reasons - yes. But the point was to create a narrative and exert emergency powers/control. The fact that it also hurt Trump was just frosting on top. And they would have done it if any Republican were in office. Remember the body counts harped on every night during the Bush administration? Bush Derangement Syndrome in the media and on the left was a thing before Trump Derangement Syndrome. The counting method continued the same after Biden was placed in office. The media stopped screaming it from the rooftops because they had the narrative they wanted and the control they wanted (direct and indirect via social media censorship) and no longer needed to hurt anyone in power with the trumped-up numbers (see how I did that?)

What happened to Menedez the last time he was charged with crimes? Well, the Dems were called 'spineless' and he was acquitted in 2018. https://whyy.org/articles/commentary-spineless-dems-wont-say-it-so-i-will-menendez-should-resign/ https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/31/dismissal-of-menendez-case-380230

Groundhog's day. Exactly. No charges. But why? Is it because there was no crime? Or is it because there is an incentive to ignore it? Ask yourself how long it took for this Menendez news to break, considering the FBI searched his place in June 2022? (15 months). How long did it take for the Biden laptop stories to be confirmed? How quickly are the requested Biden documents being turned over to the oversight committee around the money schemes (hint: still not turned over)? What percentage of DoJ employees donated to Biden vs. Trump? (85%) How long did it take for us to learn about the search for Trump docs at Trump's Mar Largo? (immediately leaked) What did those involved have to say?

I would think the seat is getting hot for Bono in Madison. The AD has shown he will make moves if not improving (i.e. Cryst, Granato) He wants winners in Madison. Bono is the ultimate hype man, but hype doesn't produce results. At this point he's a younger version of Barry Davis without a National Champion under his belt On top of that Wisconsin's top talent is leaving The leash is short in my opinion.

Pretty sure that's when it died. And while Douglas read a book on Karl The hawkeyes practiced in the park And we sang dirges in the dark The day the wrestling died And the three men I admire most The JRob, Brands, and Smith the GOAT They caught the last train for the coast The day the wrestling died

I think Duke is 49/57 so he will find his way into that line up with no doubt. i see him as a 4 year starter as well. let's not forget, he has 2 years of high school wrestling left and the option to shirt before he straps up a PSU singlet. plenty of time for the current roster to play out, and Duke makes is debut for the 2026-27 season.

I'm sure some would have said the same thing about Cornell.

Everyone here in town wants to blame the AD for EVERYTHING that goes wrong in town, including non- university related things, but what can he do when a building has been condemned? The wrestling team already secured millions just a few years ago to renovate their wrestling room. If people had the foresight that we expect our AD to have, then they should have used those funds to renovate the building, and not just build a wrestling room. Yes, it's more complicated than just one person.

Oh but they were/are counted differently Plasi. If you have Cancer and are essentially waiting to die from the cancer and then actually die and test positive for the flu, did they count that as you died from the flu? If you were in a car accident and died but tested positive for the flu did you die from the flu? Two examples of personal close experiences of what happened during Covid...both those cases the person that died was tested for Covid and it was in the record of death as Covid plus the other things that actually killed the person. Just read the freaking CDC website on how they count deaths as Covid deaths and then read how they count flu deaths...VERY different. To this day NO ONE can show me where it is recorded that someone died JUST from Covid....why....because it is all lumped in with all the other Covid "deaths". And before you get all emotional on me, yes all deaths are tragic...that is not the point....the point is the number of deaths were inflated for political reasons and to cause mass hysteria...why??? Don't really know other than one can only guess that it was done because people hated Trump....which is so freaking stupid! Bottom line, if you are in the age group that is adversely affected by Covid, by all means mask up, get jabbed 15 times, and stay away from people if that makes you feel safe. Even if you aren't in the age group and are afraid, again by all means mask up, get jabbed 15 times and stay away from people......but don't force that on me or my kids, or the VAST majority of the population.

Or the Secretary of education? She's so beautiful

More like DJ Puke I’ll see myself out for throwing a shot at a high school kid.

That kid may see the lineup his senior year

Ugh...come on Plasi...if it was so bad that "over a million died" wouldn't you want to take any sort of drug available??? Why aren't more millions dying mow?? Why aren't we all wearing masks?? You know it's because we counted Covid WAY different then any other virus...but people that want it to be political and are all for the lock downs don't want to "follow the science" when it comes to that. Bottom line is Covid became political and people lost their freaking mind! Both sides contributed but yet one sides still sticks to their stupid stance that masking and social distancing is the answer...I'll use your "logic", so those things worked but over a million people died?? Nope!

amazing work as usual. thanks brother

One more I like:

Selcuk Can, Turkiye's 72Kg 2023 GR World bronze medalist... ... And Curtis Armstrong aka Booger in Revenge of the Nerds movie franchise. D3

What does Christopher Rufo say that is wrong?

A little too early to be drinking, isn't it?

I don't understand why Snyder is put in the same boat as Taylor and Dake. If DT and KD were to retire now Snyder would have to compete at five more Worlds/Olympics just to get to the same age. By that time he will have 14 Worlds/Olympics medals. He is 27 years old.

To be honest, one of the worst takes ever on this forum. Dude has medaled in every world/Olympic tournament since 2015, with basically the only thing keeping him from have more golds was the best pound-for-pound wrestler in the world. It would be one thing to say Snyder appears to be slipping a little, but at this point he will still perform better than anyone else we could put out there.

We literally just won a World Medal at 97 less than a week ago. Define “not performing.”

Thought Kokesh got his share of wins vs Storley and think their rivalry started in HS.