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Do you realize your words are as toxic as Trump? You just have a different opinion of who to call scum.

Be real. Blake isn’t legally to blame for being assaulted but she is absolutely responsible for the situation that produced it. If she was not there recklessly instigating the fellas wouldn’t have been assaulting her or anyone else. She did commit a misdemeanor regardless of whether she is charged. That doesn’t mean she can be assaulted.

^^^ Yes. The heckler could be charged with a misdemanor by law. https://codes.ohio.gov/ohio-revised-code/section-2917.12

What this does is establish that the law defined fighting words, and a court case literally uses “fascist” as an example of words said to a person that could qualify. There is a long history of crowds responding to the Blakes of the past in this way and much worse. It doesn’t make it for the crowd to assault Blake.

Not serious... Dead attempt given the scale of response obviously matters, not to mention Blake was protesting at someone else's event versus Kirk being an invited speaker at his own event.

Anyone with a tiny understanding of human nature knows that attending an emotionally charged political rally of thousands of opponents to loudly protest is a high-risk, provocative act. The court once defined "fighting words" as those that "by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace." The test was what men of common intelligence would understand would be words likely to cause an average recipient to fight. This changed because the violent retort could get out of hand and because we no longer have a shared common intelligence. Blake presents herself as the type of person belonging to the group that champions words are violence...

Fans of Ted Lasso. Memory of a goldfish.

Not so long ago, calling someone a fascist without a disarming smile was legally considered fighting words. There was even a time in history when the public actually had a duty to step in and handle a disruption like that. This dummy (and victim) knowingly instigated this. She was loud, angry, disrespectful, and intentionally caused a scene in the middle of a massive crowd that was completely against her.

Did anybody here or elsewhere say the assaulters should not have been removed? The people in charge of removing them were not aware she had been assaulted. Kevin Bacon say "Hollow, man."

Fraud is not a prioritized reason to avoid socialized health care.

^^ Awake in a trance ^^

No burka that I'd seen. Yes been invited to his apartment a few times. Wife does not speak english and I did not interact with her much. They recently moved... I worked with a Muslim girl who wore blue jeans inside and a burka outside. First time I joined her team on a large lunch outing I had no idea who it was.

Male. Indian. Sunni. Engineer. I hired him. Managed him. Managed a manager of him. Worked on a different team as him later as more peer situation. Had lunch, etc. for a decade. Spent time in and occasionaly outside of work. We discussed religion. He prayed privately at work. Arranged marriage. Warm eyes. Smiles. Open body language. Attentive. Soft-spoken. Listens without interruption. Warm with collegues and difficult people in difficult situations. Brought Indian food from home to share with collegues. Mentored others and had knowledge sharing sessions. You just instantly feel relaxed and not threatened. More giver than taker. Didn't drink, gamble, make money off interest, complain, raise his voice, not argumentive. Respected where we ate. Hand over heart humble. More Christlike than most Christains.

Trump doesn't cheer the assault. The lady is on camera yelling before she is assaulted (and later says as much) This was not a display of fascism.

Unfortunately this video is still the best I've seen, but its enough. The camera holder is far away and zooms in on this lady. The entire crowd is already staring at the lady. Her mouth is wide open and her body posture is that of someone yelling. The first man to 'assault' her isn't close enough to assault her yet. You can see this in second 6. She isn't looking at the first assaulter until he reaches her in second 7 / 8.

It was really disgusting, but why are you allowing emotions and bias to lead to even more statements and claims that are objectively wrong?

Body cam from deputies as well as the sheriff confirm the deputies did not see the punch. Doesn't sound like fascism to me. https://www.wfmj.com/news/local-news/bodycam-video-released-from-altercation-at-trump-rally-in-youngstown/article_462b3203-d86e-413e-ae4c-f92104530e6f.html https://www.newsweek.com/ohio-sheriff-investigate-punch-heckler-trump-rally-12614522

Some things are missing here. Fascism would be one-party rule with Trump as the dictator, where Trump controls the media and speech. Blake would be assaulted and removed for her shirt or just for appearing gender-confused. She would probably be refused a ticket, refused entry, or assaulted while attempting to enter. Security would have assaulted her and celebrated the mob for assaulting her first. Trump would be celebrating the assault. And this sort of thing would be happening in multiple places as a way of life rather than one-off chaos. Then the media spin would be different than it was...

No. Put yourself in the shoes of security. Not only can we watch on video that the assault was over ( i recall looking for it originally ), but security claims they didn't see it.

In the moment, she was the problem. When security got there to remove her she was being held under control rather than assaulted. And she didn't report being assaulted... Removing hecklers is standard security. Assaulters bragging after is disgusting but it isn't fascism.

Normally, the media doesn’t lie outright by claiming something occurred that didn’t. They exaggerate, omit context, and spin information. So when multiple articles on the left and right say that Blake was heckling, we can accept that as true. It is further supported by the same behavior at several Trump rallies. What is less heard of is the idea of someone being assaulted because of their shirt and nothing else. That was all one needed to know! You were basically the only person insisting this was an attack because of the shirt. That insistence is what made me rewatch the videos. If you slow the footage down, you can see Blake yelling at the stage.

I suspect many people think... "someone needs to shut this person up right now, and I can do it faster than staff" and it is their life experience that teaches them that would create a bigger problem.

Absurdly short-sighted take on crisis management. ... calling it fascism.

A doctor came up to me excited about a new Maternity ward charting feature that displayed the lady's weight compared to a baseline over time. He exclaimed: "Ladies can see for themself that they are fat and at risk."

The biggest problem is that people object to being lawfully forced to give without receiving an equivalent exchange.