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All it would take for this situation to be resolved is a quick signature from Bono. He won't sign it

Bono is the only coach that hasn't signed off on the system upgrade. He has a pen and he just won't do it

In that regard Sophomore (ineligible era) = redshirt freshman (today's era). I'd argue that winning as a Sophomore (ineligble era) is an equivalent (or more impressive*) accomplishment than a Freshman redshirt (today's era). Add the year at the end of career instead of the beginning, and it becomes arguable that most of the 3X'ers would have won the 4th. *Arguably more impressive in the Freshmen ineligible era because 1st year wrestlers did not have the advantage of numerous tournaments, RTC competition, etc. For the most part, they were limited to room competition. Now, 4X'ers winning in their true freshman year is a more impressive accomplishment and a different story. (e.g., Dake > Cael)

Let me guess, you think it is all Bono’s fault.

After a dismal performance at NCAA's by the Cowboys a crying John Smith is interviewed to announce that he "loves this team, so much" and he has signed a new 20 year contract.

After reading a thread on HR about where Spencer Lee stands in the pantheon of four timers I decided to take a look at 100%ers instead. Since 1928 there have been 20 wrestlers who won all the titles they were eligible for (yes, I am including Spencer Lee and Yianni Dikomihalis because it is a 100%-slam dunk-guarantee they will win their fourth - you heard it here first). For these 20 I looked at a variety of metrics that I thought were important. For dominance I looked at bonus points per NCAA match (using today's scoring system), pinfall %, and career win %. But I also wanted to measure permanence. In the early days they wrestled very few matches. And I think this matters. It is easier to win 25 straight matches than it is to win 100 straight. So I included total NCAA matches wrestled, total career wins, and total career pinfalls. Some metrics favor the old and some favor the new. To adjust for this reasonable people might weigh these metrics differently than I did. Or include other metrics. Or exclude these metrics. There are choices. What I did was count the number of times a wrestler appears in the top quartile and sort by that count. To break ties I sorted by the average rank. I fully expect Iowa and Cornell fans to absolutely hate this post. Homework: How do you feel about where the two newest four timers stand? Would you include three for three wrestlers in your list? Why or why not?

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The brothers just won state championships tonight at 195 and 285.

Gable Stevenson revels in embarrassing Mason Parris at every stop, and therefore will be announcing he is coming out of retirement and burning his covid-shirt. Twitter melts down, Tulsa rejoices, Vince McMahon pushes for him to be the first to simultaneously hold the Olympic-NCAA-WWE heavyweight belts.

https://tulsaworld.com/sports/college/osu/bill-haisten-a-massive-event-ncaa-wrestling-in-downtown-tulsa/article_758fe932-b544-11ed-aa73-4b965655d6b3.html

18 year old winning it is more impressive than 20 yr olds. Oh wait, how old are redshirt freshman now? 21? 22? LOL.

Thats gotta be it, nothing else makes sense. Bono in the sauna with the fountain pen.

in case anyone has not figured it out yet... wrestling is hard... like the hardest thing any of the rest of us could realistically conceptualize... ever... nothing but respect for any athlete that competes...

Teskke?

Malmgren's solid. They've never met prior. At worlds, Malmgren was beating MGL (who took silver) 8-2 when she got tossed and stuck. Malmgren's second match, she was clearly gassed from wrestling Dom. The part that stuck out to me is that Dom's setups weren't moving Malmgren.

I put it in italics for just that reason brother.

There were two instances against Malgren where I thought she tried the throw, but Dom stopped motion and should have gotten the TD. I watched a bunch of other matches and consistency on this call isn't there.

i have not had 15 minutes as an option since i was a much, much younger man...

Yes. Nomad's twitter to be spexific.

My hillbilly buddy owns and operates a pizza shop. He also loves it.

https://www.flowrestling.org/live/51206

In the format thread JB said the b10 coaches could seed any way/one they wanted, so ... I assumed this question was to weed out the non true b10 fans or reward those thinking outside the box. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The defender should be awarded two points when they slip the offender's throw attempt and end up in control. The 'free pass' rule allowed today is silly. Referring to Dom's match.

Look at us now, an endless supply of ‘reactions’ available each day and able to use more than .00046832mb worth of images. Moving up in the world.

No...actually, I wasn't a Badger. I went to a bordering program (that's not Iowa). I did live in Wisconsin growing up(not in HS) and live there now. I also had family who went there, who Wrestled there. I have a great deal of respect for Jon Reader as a coach. I think Bono is a good guy, but as I said, he's intense, but seems to me like he's the type of guy you want in your corner, both figuratively and literally. Askren is an incredible Wrestler and 2nd to none at self promotion. Look no further than him talking a kid barely cracking 200 LBs into going up to HWT(which...is NOT an easy weight in Wisconsin this year with a defending State Champ and Runner up from 220 and HWT respectively). And Sinclair going to 220 despite being ~5'8 so the top AWA guys don't wrestle each other and you have favorites at maybe 8 straight weights. But he's quick to make comments about how Wrestlers don't improve under Bono each loss. Which...if people will recall, someone said O'Toole isn't improving at Missouri after the Carr loss. He clearly is. It was more about the absurdity of Askren's comments. Ben Askren wants Nick Becker to be the Badgers HC(if it's not him). Now...Becker would make one helluva D1 HC. I really believe that. I think he could have won NCs in D1(He was undefeated his final 3 years, wrestled a little bit on the Sr circuit losing a close match to Mark Hall on criteria). And he gets the Askren stamp of approval. And he DOESN'T have anywhere near that same ego. The question is, if you're UW, how much are you willing to placate one Wrestler? Does he just get to call all the shots? And what if he and Becker get into it in the future? Square One...

You're still not seeing it.

B1G seeding has zero to do with CR or RPI. B1G can seed how they wish.

We make our own GF crusts (and by we, I mean my wife). It's really simple and better than the rest.

Accidental is pretty bad. Seems like someone somewhere has performed poorly at their job.

It makes absolutely no sense for that to be intentional. I don't subscribe to too many conspiracy theories.

Note: I have no inside information on seedings so these are merely just my best guesses for fun but figured they could be good discussion starters. You can use the interactive brackets using the following letters: D, M, T, F (decision, major, tech, fall). Big 12 Interactive Bracket Conference record is based on their record vs. who I have as projected starters at the same weight CR = NCAA Coaches Ranking RPI = NCAA RPI Ratings WS = WrestleStat Rankings 125 lbs. #1 Killian Cardinale (WVU) (10-0, 3-0 BIG 12): 7 CR, 9 WS #2 Noah Surtin (MIZZ) (13-4, 4-1 BIG 12): 11 CR, 16 RPI, 12 WS #3 Jore Volk (WYO) (21-7, 4-1 BIG 12): 19 CR, 21 RPI, 22 WS #4 Stevo Poulin (UNCO) (24-5, 4-2 BIG 12): 21 CR, 9 RPI, 24 WS #5 Joey Prata (OKLA) (17-7, 3-3 BIG 12): 27 CR, 22 RPI, 26 WS #6 Kyle Golhoffer (UNI) (8-11, 2-3 BIG 12): 32 RPI, 43 WS #7 Reece Witcraft (OKST) (15-9, 1-2 BIG 12): 37 WS #8 Kase Mauger (UVU) (12-11, 4-3 BIG 12): 33 CR, 29 RPI, 16 WS Tanner Jordan (SDSU) (17-12, 3-5 BIG 12): 26 CR, 23 RPI, 29 WS Tucker Owens (AF) (23-9, 2-3 BIG 12): 28 RPI, 35 WS Caleb Fuessley (ISU) (8-12, 0-3 BIG 12): 56 WS Eli Griffin (CB) (6-5, 1-3 BIG 12): 17 WS Carlos Negrete (NDSU) (6-8, 1-3 BIG 12): 51 WS 133 lbs. #1 Daton Fix (OKST) (22-0, 9-0 BIG 12): 2 CR, 2 RPI, 1 WS #2 Kyle Biscoglia (UNI) (17-7, 4-2 BIG 12): 16 CR, 16 RPI, 21 WS #3 Cody Phippen (AF) (16-4, 3-1 BIG 12): 20 CR, 12 RPI, 27 WS #4 Connor Brown (MIZZ) (9-7, 3-2 BIG 12): 27 CR, 23 RPI, 16 WS #5 Zach Redding (ISU) (13-9, 4-4 BIG 12): 18 CR, 13 RPI, 17 WS #6 McGwire Midkiff (NDSU) (12-9, 3-3 BIG 12): 39 WS #7 Wyatt Henson (OKLA) (13-11, 2-6 BIG 12): 29 CR, 25 RPI, 38 WS #8 Jace Koelzer (UNCO) (19-9, 3-3 BIG 12): 47 WS Davin Rhoads (WVU) (2-9, 1-5 BIG 12): 59 WS Derrick Cardinal (SDSU) (10-13, 4-4 BIG 12): 50 WS Hunter Leake (CB) (16-11, 2-2 BIG 12): 40 WS Garrett Ricks (WYO) (14-14, 3-3 BIG 12): 63 WS Kobe Nelms (UVU) (5-14, 0-6 BIG 12): 75 WS 141 lbs. #1 Andrew Alirez (UNCO) (20-0, 6-0 BIG 12): 1 CR, 3 RPI, 3 WS #2 Mosha Schwartz (OKLA) (19-3, 7-1 BIG 12): 7 CR, 8 RPI, 7 WS #3 Cael Happel (UNI) (16-4, 6-2 BIG 12): 8 CR, 5 RPI, 12 WS #4 Carter Young (OKST) (13-10, 5-4 BIG 12): 14 CR, 9 RPI, 10 WS #5 Clay Carlson (SDSU) (17-7, 4-5 BIG 12): 9 CR, 22 RPI, 16 WS #6 Allan Hart (MIZZ) (12-4, 3-2 BIG 12): 13 CR, 23 RPI, 8 WS #7 Dylan Droegemueller (NDSU) (10-7, 1-3 BIG 12): 30 CR, 18 RPI, 31 WS #8 Jordan Titus (WVU) (18-10, 2-5 BIG 12): 31 CR, 30 RPI, 24 WS Casey Swiderski (ISU) (9-8, 0-5 BIG 12): 29 WS Job Greenwood (WYO) (11-6, 2-4 BIG 12): 48 WS Ty Smith (UVU) (9-7, 2-3 BIG 12): 33 RPI, 42 WS Garrett Kuchan (AF) (14-13, 0-3 BIG 12): 69 WS Christian Nunez (CB) (3-11, 0-1 BIG 12): 77 WS 149 lbs. #1 Brock Mauller (MIZZ) (13-1, 7-0 BIG 12): 6 CR, 6 WS #2 Paniro Johnson (ISU) (14-4, 4-1 BIG 12): 10 CR, 13 RPI, 14 WS #3 Colin Realbuto (UNI) (16-4, 7-1 BIG 12): 14 CR, 6 RPI, 11 WS #4 Kellyn March (NDSU) (20-5, 7-2 BIG 12): 17 CR, 11 RPI, 18 WS #5 Victor Voinovich (OKST) (14-8, 4-5 BIG 12): 22 CR, 19 RPI, 23 WS #6 Mitch Moore (OKLA) (13-6, 3-3 BIG 12): 23 CR, 20 RPI, 21 WS #7 Sam Hillegas (WVU) (17-9, 1-4 BIG 12): 28 CR, 22 RPI, 30 WS #8 Dylan Martinez (AF) (16-9, 4-2 BIG 12): 32 CR, 30 RPI, 47 WS Chris Sandoval (UNCO) (14-8, 4-2 BIG 12): 43 WS Alek Martin (SDSU) (17-12, 4-4 BIG 12): 32 WS Isaiah Delgado (UVU) (13-12, 0-6 BIG 12): 54 WS Chaz Hallmark (CB) (8-11, 1-4 BIG 12): 55 WS Chase Zollman (WYO) (12-17, 0-12 BIG 12): 66 WS 157 lbs. #1 Jared Franek (NDSU) (19-1, 7-0 BIG 12): 2 CR, 6 RPI, 5 WS #2 Kaden Gfeller (OKST) (18-5, 8-1 BIG 12): 9 CR, 2 RPI, 10 WS #3 Jarrett Jacques (MIZZ) (14-3, 3-2 BIG 12): 10 CR, 10 RPI, 14 WS #4 Cael Swenson (SDSU) (18-6, 4-2 BIG 12): 19 CR, 15 RPI, 27 WS #5 Derek Holschlag (UNI) (15-5, 5-1 BIG 12): 23 CR, 14 RPI, 23 WS #6 Jacob Wright (WYO) (15-4, 5-3 BIG 12): 17 CR, 24 RPI, 22 WS #7 Jason Kraisser (ISU) (17-11, 2-4 BIG 12): 29 CR, 31 RPI, 31 WS #8 Alex Hornfeck (WVU) (14-7, 1-3 BIG 12): 19 RPI, 38 WS Vince Zerban (UNCO) (16-8, 3-7 BIG 12): 30 RPI, 41 WS Jacob Butler (OKLA) (14-8, 0-3 BIG 12): 33 RPI, 34 WS Jack Ganos (AF) (14-10, 0-4 BIG 12): 57 WS Tyson Humphreys (UVU) (10-10, 0-5 BIG 12): 64 WS Nolan Miller-Johnston (CB) (6-12, 0-3 BIG 12): 75 WS 165 lbs. #1 David Carr (ISU) (19-0, 7-0 BIG 12): 1 CR, 2 RPI, 1 WS #2 Keegan O'Toole (MIZZ) (12-1, 6-1 BIG 12): 2 CR, 2 WS #3 Michael Caliendo (NDSU) (20-2, 5-1 BIG 12): 9 CR, 11 RPI, 9 WS #4 Peyton Hall (WVU) (22-3, 5-2 BIG 12): 11 CR, 16 RPI, 8 WS #5 Gerrit Nijenhuis (OKLA) (13-5, 3-4 BIG 12): 21 CR, 22 RPI, 17 WS #6 Tanner Cook (SDSU) (15-4, 2-2 BIG 12): 17 CR, 9 RPI, 14 WS #7 Wyatt Sheets (OKST) (12-12, 3-6 BIG 12): 24 CR, 26 RPI, 20 WS #8 Austin Yant (UNI) (15-4, 3-3 BIG 12): 18 CR, 14 RPI, 22 WS Baylor Fernandes (UNCO) (18-9, 2-2 BIG 12): 38 WS Cole Moody (WYO) (15-12, 2-5 BIG 12): 50 WS Seamus Casey (AF) (11-10, 0-5 BIG 12): 74 WS Daniel Snediker (UVU) (5-11, 1-3 BIG 12): 68 WS Frank Almauger (CB) (5-6, 0-5 BIG 12): 42 WS 174 lbs. #1 Peyton Mocco (MIZZ) (17-3, 6-1 BIG 12): 6 CR, 11 RPI, 5 WS #2 Sam Wolf (AF) (11-2, 2-0 BIG 12): 18 CR, 28 WS #3 Demetrius Romero (UVU) (12-2, 4-1 BIG 12): 9 CR, 7 WS #4 Dustin Plott (OKST) (18-4, 7-2 BIG 12): 10 CR, 6 RPI, 9 WS #5 Tate Picklo (OKLA) (21-6, 4-2 BIG 12): 27 WS #6 Cade DeVos (SDSU) (21-6, 4-2 BIG 12): 14 CR, 13 RPI, 10 WS #7 Andrew Berreyesa (UNCO) (20-10, 2-4 BIG 12): 29 WS #8 Lance Runyon (UNI) (4-5, 2-3 BIG 12): 21 WS Scott Joll (WVU) (13-9, 1-3 BIG 12): 35 WS Julien Broderson (ISU) (17-10, 3-4 BIG 12): 27 CR, 29 RPI, 39 WS Hayden Hastings (WYO) (12-4, 0-1 BIG 12): 34 WS Gaven Sax (NDSU) (12-10, 1-6 BIG 12): 47 WS Louis Rojas (CB) (4-18, 0-7 BIG 12): 68 WS 184 lbs. #1 Parker Keckeisen (UNI) (18-1, 6-0 BIG 12): 2 CR, 2 RPI, 2 WS #2 Marcus Coleman (ISU) (17-2, 5-1 BIG 12): 4 CR, 3 RPI, 3 WS #3 Travis Wittlake (OKST) (16-4, 7-0 BIG 12): 11 CR, 6 RPI, 15 WS #4 Colton Hawks (MIZZ) (14-8, 3-4 BIG 12): 25 CR, 32 RPI, 37 WS #5 Deanthony Parker (NDSU) (15-7, 5-2 BIG 12): 27 CR, 20 WS #6 Anthony Carman (WVU) (16-12, 2-2 BIG 12): 31 CR, 17 RPI, 43 WS #7 Keegan Moore (OKLA) (4-9, 1-5 BIG 12): 41 WS #8 Cade King (SDSU) (17-7, 5-2 BIG 12): 19 CR, 26 RPI, 32 WS Noah Blake (AF) (16-11, 1-3 BIG 12): 44 WS Peter Acciardi (CB) (13-12, 2-5 BIG 12): 28 RPI, 45 WS Quayin Short (WYO) (17-12, 0-6 BIG 12): 42 WS Branson Britten (UNCO) (10-14, 0-4 BIG 12): 70 WS Hunter Murse (UVU) (3-13, 0-3 BIG 12): 76 WS 197 lbs. #1 Rocky Elam (MIZZ) (7-1, 4-1 BIG 12): 4 CR, 9 WS #2 Younger Bastida (ISU) (14-4, 3-1 BIG 12): 7 CR, 5 RPI, 10 WS #3 Tanner Sloan (SDSU) (20-1, 6-0 BIG 12): 9 CR, 6 RPI, 3 WS #4 Owen Pentz (NDSU) (14-5, 4-2 BIG 12): 13 CR, 11 RPI, 7 WS #5 Luke Surber (OKST) (17-7, 4-2 BIG 12): 20 CR, 13 RPI, 16 WS #6 Evan Bockman (UVU) (17-5, 2-2 BIG 12): 23 CR, 18 RPI, 27 WS #7 Calvin Sund (AF) (16-12, 1-2 BIG 12): 46 WS #8 Austin Cooley (WVU) (14-7, 2-3 BIG 12): 32 CR, 33 RPI, 36 WS Seth Seago (OKLA) (8-11, 0-0 BIG 12): 58 WS Noah Glaser (UNI) (8-7, 1-2 BIG 12): 44 WS Xavier Vasquez (UNCO) (14-12, 2-6 BIG 12): 47 WS Caden Gerlach (CB) (15-11, 0-4 BIG 12): 57 WS Tyce Raddon (WYO) (8-12, 0-4 BIG 12): 68 WS 285 lbs. #1 Wyatt Hendrickson (AF) (23-1, 8-0 BIG 12): 6 CR, 6 RPI, 5 WS #2 Sam Schuyler (ISU) (15-2, 7-0 BIG 12): 7 CR, 5 RPI, 9 WS #3 Zach Elam (MIZZ) (15-2, 5-1 BIG 12): 8 CR, 3 RPI, 7 WS #4 AJ Nevills (SDSU) (18-4, 6-2 BIG 12): 12 CR, 10 RPI, 11 WS #5 Konner Doucet (OKST) (15-8, 5-4 BIG 12): 19 CR, 23 RPI, 28 WS #6 Michael Wolfgram (WVU) (18-9, 3-4 BIG 12): 21 CR, 16 RPI, 18 WS #7 Josh Heindselman (OKLA) (21-8, 3-5 BIG 12): 17 CR, 11 RPI, 23 WS #8 Tyrell Gordon (UNI) (14-9, 4-5 BIG 12): 13 CR, 21 RPI, 25 WS Chase Trussell (UVU) (11-10, 3-4 BIG 12): 49 WS Juan Mora (NDSU) (14-10, 3-6 BIG 12): 30 CR, 38 WS Xavier Doolin (UNCO) (9-11, 2-6 BIG 12): 59 WS Christopher Island (CB) (5-15, 1-7 BIG 12): 68 WS Terren Swartz (WYO) (13-12, 0-6 BIG 12): 63 WS Projected Team Standings (no bonus) 1. Missouri - 143 2. Oklahoma State - 107.5 3. Iowa State - 93.5 4. Northern Iowa - 89.5 5. North Dakota State - 77 t-6. Oklahoma - 66.5 t-6. West Virginia - 66.5 8. South Dakota State - 65 9. Air Force - 56.5 10. Northern Colorado - 40.5 11. Utah Valley - 25 12. Wyoming - 20.5 13. Cal Baptist - 0

Nelson Brands shoots from space and takes everyone down. He wins 174 and does a victory celebration that becomes a viral dance sensation on TikTok.

Part of me wanted the same thing. I’m sure he would have been a great recruiter and gotten some serious talent in the room. But I can’t imagine he would have dealt well with the athletic department administrators etc I thought when he took over as club coach it would be the best of both worlds, he’d get top guys in the room, but not have to deal with head coaching duties outside of wrestling. Obviously, it wasn’t meant to be.

@scourge165thanks for the info on Askren/UW. Were you ever on the team? I was an out of state walk-on back in the day, but never knew much of the inside story why Askren had such a beef with UW. I know he has steered WI guys away for a while, but didn’t realize the extent to which he is undermining the coaching staff’s ability to recruit the state. That’s a huge hurdle to have to overcome.

1. Yes 2. No 3. Why tf not 4. No 5. No 6. Yes 7. No 8. No 9. Yes 10. No 11. Lol. No 12. No Team standings: PSU, Iowa, Nebraska, OSUe

Thank you for the time and effort you put in to this @ILLINIWrestlingBlog. I could throw out criticisms here and there, however I will refrain and express my gratitude towards the content. It is quite refreshing. I will throw out one insight, though: They have never ignored the prevailing wisdom of head to head matches from out of conference dual matches. I am referencing the Mendez/Byrd(133) and Paddy G/Gilcher(157) 'seeding' projections. I honestly wish they would seed based off team dual meet results, though.

Right as Kerkvleit is about to deck Parris in the finals we hear the glass break and Stone Cold along with Steveson rush in and rob him of the title.

Jacob Warner pins Max Dean with a bow n arrow to win his first ncaa title.

125: glory outlasts Spencer and wins 125 133: fix exacts revenge on rby 141: Cole mathews shows offense after how many years 149: Sasso throws his lump leg shit to the side, becomes offensive, and we see a barn burner final with him and yianni. 157: the entire weight class is a crapshoot, but I take I connor... 165; Carr wins it over all the talent. Griffith places 6th. 174: Ethan Smith takes out mekhi in semis and locks horns with Starrocci in finals 184: Kaleb "broken finger" Romero beats Keck in Semis and has Brooks finals 197: another crapshoot. Any one of 20 could win. Hwt: kerkvliet over Parris in final.

Levi Haines agrees to NIL deals with Lee Jeans and Fruit of the Loom

Michigan found an extra year for Micic.

J’den Cox misses weigh-ins.

Oliver was robbed I tell ya!! mspart

Jordan Oliver

Correction: 99% of AWA don't go to Wisconsin.

Josh Otto is at Wisconsin.

The folkstyle weight classes, youth programs through NCAA follow the weight distribution curves for males of the respective age groups.

There's also far more wrestlers at the middleweights (generally specifically in the 141-157 range) than on the ends...for example, the number of Division I wrestlers who have wrestled at least one match against other Division I competition at each weight up to this point in the 2022-23 season... 125: 223 133: 267 141: 300 149: 331 157: 338 165: 299 174: 280 184: 262 197: 234 285: 227