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No, but he still gets pretty high.

Just have to pay your bets.

The ILLINI have dark horses and some folks who are completely off the radar who could show up. The MSU Open on Saturday will be a coming out party for super young or new ILLINOIS wrestlers. Can't wait to see how they do. At 125, Maximo Renteria would've been a four-time Cali champ but for Covid cancelling his Senior year. Ironically, I believe it was Covid that screwed up his redshirt season leaving him with a terrible record. You could see the Covid hit him in the second period of his second match at last year's MSU Open. Poor fella gassed right off. He forfeited out of the tournament. In high school, besides the state championships, he ragdolled Dylan Ragusin and beat a four-time Mizzou state champ. With Cardani out or limited at the start of the season, we will see a lot of Maximo. I think he could be very good. At 141, Danny Pucino's been around for a bit, but hasn't started because of Carr and Duncan. In the free season two years ago, he did beat Dylan D'Emilio and the Wisconsin starter in duals when Duncan was out. He also beat Frankie Tal-Shahar in an extra match pretty handily. His toughest competition at the MSU Open looks to be D'Emilio, Jordan Decatur and Frankie Tal-Shahar--again ironically--and it could be a coming out party for him. He'd have to beat two of those guys, barring upsets, and that would place him as an obvious AA threat. On another note, he's wrestled for the Italian freestyle team at age group and Senior-level tournaments. He's fun, dangerous and exciting to watch. Four years left on his clock, too. At 149, Kevon Davenport was a four-time Michigan state champ. He transferred from Nebraska stuck behind Ridge Lovett. I have no idea how he'll do this year, but he's beaten Dean Heil in freestyle, and he had a pretty good redshirt year with the stupid Cornhuskers. The good news for the ILLINI is that if he falters, there are a couple of other transfer guys who could make noise at the weight: Jake Harrier and Anthony Federico. Whoever wins the spot, I think, is gonna be a threat to AA. At 174 and 184, there are Edmond Ruth and Dylan Connell. Ruth seems to be enjoying life as an ILLINI, and who knows how good he can be. He entered two opens last year unattached and won them both. He'll have Demetrius Romero and Ethan Smith at the MSU Open, as well as some mid-level talent, so we'll get to see how far he's progressed. Again, the ILLINI have two guys waiting in the wings at this weight (Sizemore and Ernd). Connell was a four-time ILLINOIS state champ, total old school tough wrestler, rides hard, and had a very nice 25-6 record as a true freshman redshirt. He's a baby face and may need some adjustment time, but down the road....

I believe it's been unanimously decided he's the worst college wrestler this year

There's no way to formulate a full opinion on this until we see Spencer on the mat. If he looks like he did before the injuries or even most of the way, the odds are really good he wins. If he doesn't, that changes. We don't have near enough information at this point to make that determination.

I call bs, I think JC was shown the lights.

He's got everything except a natural weight class.

Wrestling results aren’t tied to forum respect.

how about someone who is not even ranked? Jesse Mendez at 133 for anOSU.

You're still a savvy politician. Calling Ionel stupid without directly calling him stupid

Who is "We"? You and the dust you fart?

Seeing Mendez against (potentially) Foley, Ragusin, Byrd, Prata, and Cannon has me frothing at the mouth.

Forum respect is built upon your contribution to the forum, whether it be knowledge (usually gained from personal experienc), observations (usually gained as being a conscious fan/spectator), or wit/humor (you either have it or you don't). I wrestled for 12 years. Loved the sport, wasn't a D1 calibre, but have an intense love of the sport. I'm now a middle aged man living vicariously through others in my Fandom and am having fun on the mat thru BJJ. I contribute here and there, make some controversial comments from time to time, but don't really feel disrespected. We are a community of folks that care about wrestling and that is our common bond.

Have you ever had a boss?

@BobDole @Husker_Du for the integrity of this forum I suggest Cinnabon being banned from making any bets

So I coach at our area's inner city school... gonna ramble here One of the biggest things I think is understanding circumstances and the wrestlers as a coach.... For instance, I had a kid not shave before a meet so I'm a little aggravated and pull him aside, turns out no one has ever taught him to shave (he lives in a foster facility). I had another kid not making it to practice because his mom was too drunk, two dad's last season OD during season. Nuance that is needed (not saying be a players coach but also not being a hard liner) If you can address things that the team can provide before it even reaches the wrestlers, its a big difference (providing and washing practice gear daily, finding a business to pay for or subsidize costs, etc...) Some kids need wrestling and wrestling needs some kids, but drawing the line of a kid needing wrestling and a kid taking other kids down Content needs to be relatable, to be blunt Dan Gable posters and old Iowa content do not work (or at least for us) Showing that you are prepared helps a long way to the kids looking up to you as dependable, don't wing practices Give the kids something to want that isn't wrestling.. So we do a lock in, chili supper, jv buffett, a few overnights, xmas break basketball tourney, full team “field trip”, special “black team” gear for varsity at the end, etc... In the offseason, going to places they haven't been to (like kayaking, hiking, etc..) Kids quit when they don't get playing time in any sport, so make sure JV kids get matches, ours will get 18/20 a season We write postcards to every incoming freshman in the summer inviting them out to wrestling, do a free two week elementary league at all of our feed elementary schools and then do a big meet at the end of it (making the high school kids coach at each of the schools before than get any end of the year awards), give out multi sport shorts for kids doing more than one sport, give out preseason shirts, etc... (we make and give away shirts for everything) At the end of the day, wrestling is just the tool you have to impact them

125: Eric Barnett dec Kysen Terukina 3-0 133: Zach Redding dec Taylor Lamont 3-3 (upset alert!) 141: Joey Zargo dec Casey Swiderski 6-3 (another upset sort of) 149: Austin Gomez dec Paniro Johnson 9-3 157: Garret Model dec Jason Kraisser 12-3 165: Dean Hamiti dec David Carr 15-3 174: Julien Brodersen major dec Graham Calhoun / Josh Otto 15-7 184: Marcus Coleman major dec Tyler Dow 15-11 197: Yonger Bastida dec Braxton Amos 15-14 285: Trent Hillger dec Sam Schuyler 18-17 Wisconsin by a hair

I had a gut feeling you would (probably too many enchilada's)

Well ... no one is gonna get up and leave before that 18-17 hwt match! oh ... wait a minute ...

More of a just gut feeling?

Im excited about this 15-14 score fest between Bastida & Amos

Chris Pendleton has said he is in it for the long haul at Oregon State. I hope this is true!

Going to be a great dual to start the season!

Amos lost to Cardenas 3-1 in SV last November. I'm told that Cardenas hasn't done anything special since.

Would you believe that there are people within unmentionable circles that would say that Smith hasn't improved since arriving in Cbus? The gall! Horrible take. Preposterous.

Lol! I thought the Russian tie snap with Makachev is what he is most famous for. Still remember when it went viral. @2:15

I'll throw in Chase Saldate as a dark horse to AA. I think he meets the criteria.

That's what I have.

Agree. Probably would make more sense to not include anyone that is ranked & blue chip recruits making their first start. But when the questioned is phrased "anyone outside the top 10" it broadens who qualifies.

125 - Sam Noto (Lock Haven) 133 - Wyatt Henson (Oklahoma) 141 - Ryan Jack (NC State) 149 - Quinn Kinner (Rider) 157 - Paddy Gallagher (tOSU) 165 - Kennedy (Iowa) 174 - Ruth (Illinois) 184 - Assad (Iowa) 197 - Sloan (SDState) HWT - Hilger (Wisconsin)

Mendez in frosh soph division bet

You two should make a friendly wager over this.

He was coming off of U23's when wrestleoffs took place.

Tanner Harvey - Oregon State

Sammy Alvarez now that he is up at 141 and not cutting too much due to Seabass transferring in. He had weight management and other issues the last two seasons which caused him not to have full seasons but is at his preferred weight now. Due to these circumstances he is being left off a lot of preseason lists but he should be surprising a lot of people this year.

Sounds like Notre Dames entire season!

Thanks for sharing. How do you read the next subsection 13.1.1.3.1.1? It doesn’t take effect until next year, but looks like it would cover this situation, no?

I'd need 200:1 to take a pastry bet.

Its a mistory, if you figure it out you'll know something about me. Profile name is pretty simple but only one former poster I know of figured it out, he was a NC if that helps. Regarding the pic, didnt have one on the other board, added my puma paw print pic from Brazil, someone thought I was a Nittany Lion fan so changed to this one. If you look real close thats a reflection of me in the pic. Thats all my hints for now.

We need examples of Bono's vindictiveness. This is the new uncensored board - spill it!

Doug Zapf from Penn had a strong freestyle season beating Sasso and Ashnault.

Cardenes for Cornell.

Outside of the Top 10 that can AA Braxton Amos has to be at the top of the list Cam Caffey Travis Whitlake Beau Bartlett

If Ramos loses to Forrest and there's no one there...

Regardless of who's fault it is, it's not the best look for a college to hold someone's eligibility whom you recruited over and wants to leave.

Is this the first official forum "squabble"??? So exciting!!

I posted links to matches last season after SHP posted weekly schedules. I’ll get on it!

He was the only wrestler from his high school graduating year (true freshman) to AA.

Board bets. a new forum. if you don't pay up, you're banned. whadda we think?

While we wait for more from jross, Here's a deep track from the old site circa 200-old. [Nickerson & Alice from Brady Bunch]