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2 minutes ago, poke1 said:

From the team you cheer for who do you pick as the next wrestler from your favorite team to transfer?

From Oklahoma State my next guess to transfer is Carter Young.   He started last season at 141 and red shirted this season, and with Tegan Jamison starting this season I find it hard to believe he can beat Jamison or Williams at 149.  So he would be my pick to leave.  

For me with Michigan it's Rylan Rogers.  His best friends wrestle for Cal Poly and Purdue.  Both have needs.

I don't want him to go, though.

For me with Michigan State is is Lujan or Fish.

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Just now, flyingcement said:

Could Fish bump up with Gilcher going back down to 157?

Fish is small, man.  Average 165 at best.

Gilcher has been 74 KG, so I could see it.

Could Lillard go up?

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1 hour ago, poke1 said:

From the team you cheer for who do you pick as the next wrestler from your favorite team to transfer?

From Oklahoma State my next guess to transfer is Carter Young.   He started last season at 141 and red shirted this season, and with Tegan Jamison starting this season I find it hard to believe he can beat Jamison or Williams at 149.  So he would be my pick to leave.  

This is why I don’t think the portal is “the end of college wrestling.”   There have also been a fair amount of guys transfer out of some of the top schools as well.

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On 3/26/2024 at 11:27 AM, MizzouFan01 said:

No clue what weight he weighed in at, but Askren said the AWA guys wanted to wrestle different weights so that they could see how many Champs could come from AWA and not have to take each other out. I wouldn’t be surprised if Sinclair was an 184 easy right now. How that works out with Hawks and Whiting I don’t know, but if I’m Smith and Sinclair wants to go asap, you have to start the #1 ranked 220 period. 

They said that for last year. I don't think they explicitly stated that this year, but...clearly that was the goal. And Sinclair did Wrestle Mirasola this year anyway. So...not a whole lot to prove(though it'd have been interesting). 

I'd like to see Sinclair RS...just because I'm always rooting for the next 4X Champ, the next guy with a shot at going undefeated. That's really premature, but he's that type of talent if he's at '74 with a year of weight training...IMO.

He's that good. 

 

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1 hour ago, 1032004 said:

This is why I don’t think the portal is “the end of college wrestling.”   There have also been a fair amount of guys transfer out of some of the top schools as well.

Everything is "the end of College Wrestling."

Hasn't D3 been one by Augsburg or Wartburg for 30+ years in a row? There are kids at all different schools still battling their asses off.

Iowa was as dominant as Penn State. They had those caps, they'd get a guy like Mcllravy through a couple years, he'd get hired to do the camps, get paid enough to cover tuition, he'd no longer be on scholarship and they'd bring in the next wave. 

There's always something that's going to be "the end of___" and people adapt. It's a sport dominated by a few teams. Always has been. Right now it's PSU. 

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1 hour ago, scourge165 said:

Everything is "the end of College Wrestling."

Hasn't D3 been one by Augsburg or Wartburg for 30+ years in a row? There are kids at all different schools still battling their asses off.

Iowa was as dominant as Penn State. They had those caps, they'd get a guy like Mcllravy through a couple years, he'd get hired to do the camps, get paid enough to cover tuition, he'd no longer be on scholarship and they'd bring in the next wave. 

There's always something that's going to be "the end of___" and people adapt. It's a sport dominated by a few teams. Always has been. Right now it's PSU. 

By adapt you really mean the lower level teams have to adapt to losing the guys they recruited and developed, correct? You are correct that a few teams have dominated the sport over the years, but it's not the same as the Mcllravy days - not even close. 

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5 hours ago, flyingcement said:

Caleb Fish at 165 would be a decent grab for someone.  He majored in business and wants to be in finance or accounting for his grad program.  He personally enjoys hunting.  So a rural school with good finance/accounting.  Illinois, NC State or maybe Oklahoma.  

Great hunting and fishing around Brookings, SD and Tanner Cook is graduated so we have a hole in the lineup. Come train with Cael Swensen and Cade Devos!

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5 hours ago, CHROMEBIRD said:

The portal opened in March right before Nationals, so 45 days from that... first week of May or so.

Keep in mind, gents... they don't have tk transfer in these 45 days, they just have to enter.

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20 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

Keep in mind, gents... they don't have tk transfer in these 45 days, they just have to enter.

Yep... and to add I don't believe those rules apply to grad transfers.  

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10 hours ago, Idaho said:

By adapt you really mean the lower level teams have to adapt to losing the guys they recruited and developed, correct? You are correct that a few teams have dominated the sport over the years, but it's not the same as the Mcllravy days - not even close. 

No. It's a different team dominating. Not Iowa. Night and Day different...

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13 hours ago, scourge165 said:

Everything is "the end of College Wrestling."

Hasn't D3 been one by Augsburg or Wartburg for 30+ years in a row? There are kids at all different schools still battling their asses off.

Iowa was as dominant as Penn State. They had those caps, they'd get a guy like Mcllravy through a couple years, he'd get hired to do the camps, get paid enough to cover tuition, he'd no longer be on scholarship and they'd bring in the next wave. 

There's always something that's going to be "the end of___" and people adapt. It's a sport dominated by a few teams. Always has been. Right now it's PSU. 

Well the one thing that really might be would be the Big Ten and SEC leaving the NCAA…

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I combined the current portal in Flo with guys who announced mid season they were entering the portal, and the guys who entered early last year knowing their Ivy eligibilty was coming to an end.  Added Spencer Mooberry who posted his own news but it hasn't yet been captured by Flo or WS.  And then sorted by WS Rank:

Weight WS Rank Athlete 2024-25 Year Transferring From Transferring To
165 4 Dean Hamiti Senior Wisconsin Oklahoma State
197 5 Jacob Cardenas Graduate Cornell  
174 6 Lennox Wolak Graduate Columbia Virginia Tech
184 6 Chris Foca Graduate Cornell  
165 16 Caleb Fish Graduate Michigan State  
157 22 Chase Saldate Senior Michigan State Michigan
133 23 Connor McGonagle Graduate Lehigh  
197 25 Evan Bockman Graduate Utah Valley  
165 30 Josh Ogunsanya Graduate Columbia  
184 32 Brock Delsignore Junior NC State  
133 34 Sidney Flores Graduate Air Force  
125 37 Nick Babin Graduate Columbia  
149 37 Sammy Alvarez Graduate Oklahoma State  
157 38 Jason Kraisser Graduate Iowa State  
197 44 Spencer Mooberry Junior NDSU  
141 48 Nathan Higley Sophomore George Mason  
157 51 Brock McMillen Junior Pitt  
197 56 Carter Blough Sophomore Michigan State  
125 57 Evan Tallmadge Freshman Navy  
197 63 Billy Janzer Junior Rutgers  
184 63 James Lledo Graduate Pitt  
125 71 Dominic Chavez Junior Presbyterian  
174 73 Darrien Roberts Graduate Oklahoma Morgan State
285 79 Xavier Doolin Junior Northern Colorado  
285 80 Ryan Boersma Sophomore Missouri  
141 83 Benjamin Lunn Graduate Minnesota  
125 85 Zachary Espalin Junior Navy  
184 97 Branson Britten Junior Northern Colorado  
285 102 Billy Brosko Freshman Drexel  
174 112 Braden Welch Sophomore App State  
174 113 Devin Wasley Sophomore Minnesota  
165 115 Carson Miller Freshman Pitt  
149 116 Bretli Reyna Junior Iowa  
285 119 Gage Cook Sophomore Army  
197 123 Cameo Blankenship Graduate Davidson  
125 125 Aedyn Concepcion Senior Gardner-Webb  
157 126 Lorenzo Rajaonarivelo Graduate George Mason  
133 132 Kyle Rowan Graduate Stanford  
174 134 Zachary Wells Graduate Presbyterian  
197 137 Coen Grimm Freshman Buffalo  
133 139 Giovanni Diaz Graduate Franklin & Marshall  
133 140 Korbin Shepherd Junior Missouri  
184 144 Damen Pape Junior Northern Colorado  
165 147 Brant Whitaker Junior Missouri  
125 162 Jacob Houpt Freshman Kent State  
285 163 Max Acciardi Freshman Cal Baptist  
141 172 Cam Soda Junior Edinboro  
174 173 Hayden Pummel Junior Northern Illinois  
157 177 Kaiden Wagner Sophomore Lock Haven  
184 182 Anthony DeRosa Junior Bloomsburg  
184 184 Connor Strong Senior Penn  
133 185 Braxton Fries Sophomore Ohio State  
125 191 Jacob Joyce Freshman Stanford  
125 191 Keegan Schlabach Freshman Clarion  
125 191 Zachary Jacaruso Freshman George Mason  
197 196 Macray Klohs Freshman NDSU  
197 197 Brett Wittman Senior Clarion  
141 209 Peyton Moore Sophomore Missouri  
285 212 Carson Hatch Senior CSU Bakersfield  
133 213 Drew Cooper Freshman Nebraska  
285 224 Peter Casale Sophomore Rutgers  
141 245 Hunter Sloan Freshman Bucknell  
133 249 Spencer Von Savoye Freshman Cal Baptist  
165 249 Zane Licht Freshman NDSU  
165 251 Griffin Ray Freshman Nebraska  
165 253 Sam Beckett Sophomore Stanford  
157 258 Aiden Smith Sophomore Northern Illinois  
165 259 Brady Conlin Freshman Rider  
174 264 Jacob Yawn Graduate Cornell  
141 265 Kaiser Simpson Freshman Cal Baptist  
165 268 Tyler Martinez Freshman Northern Illinois  
141 269 Tanner Frothinger Freshman Nebraska  
157 291 Michael Duggan Freshman Bloomsburg  
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25 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

I combined the current portal in Flo with guys who announced mid season they were entering the portal, and the guys who entered early last year knowing their Ivy eligibilty was coming to an end.  Added Spencer Mooberry who posted his own news but it hasn't yet been captured by Flo or WS.  And then sorted by WS Rank:

 

Weight WS Rank Athlete 2024-25 Year Transferring From Transferring To
165 4 Dean Hamiti Senior Wisconsin Oklahoma State
197 5 Jacob Cardenas Graduate Cornell  
174 6 Lennox Wolak Graduate Columbia Virginia Tech
184 6 Chris Foca Graduate Cornell  
165 16 Caleb Fish Graduate Michigan State  
157 22 Chase Saldate Senior Michigan State Michigan
133 23 Connor McGonagle Graduate Lehigh  
197 25 Evan Bockman Graduate Utah Valley  
165 30 Josh Ogunsanya Graduate Columbia  
184 32 Brock Delsignore Junior NC State  
133 34 Sidney Flores Graduate Air Force  
125 37 Nick Babin Graduate Columbia  
149 37 Sammy Alvarez Graduate Oklahoma State  
157 38 Jason Kraisser Graduate Iowa State  
197 44 Spencer Mooberry Junior NDSU  
141 48 Nathan Higley Sophomore George Mason  
157 51 Brock McMillen Junior Pitt  
197 56 Carter Blough Sophomore Michigan State  
125 57 Evan Tallmadge Freshman Navy  
197 63 Billy Janzer Junior Rutgers  
184 63 James Lledo Graduate Pitt  
125 71 Dominic Chavez Junior Presbyterian  
174 73 Darrien Roberts Graduate Oklahoma Morgan State
285 79 Xavier Doolin Junior Northern Colorado  
285 80 Ryan Boersma Sophomore Missouri  
141 83 Benjamin Lunn Graduate Minnesota  
125 85 Zachary Espalin Junior Navy  
184 97 Branson Britten Junior Northern Colorado  
285 102 Billy Brosko Freshman Drexel  
174 112 Braden Welch Sophomore App State  
174 113 Devin Wasley Sophomore Minnesota  
165 115 Carson Miller Freshman Pitt  
149 116 Bretli Reyna Junior Iowa  
285 119 Gage Cook Sophomore Army  
197 123 Cameo Blankenship Graduate Davidson  
125 125 Aedyn Concepcion Senior Gardner-Webb  
157 126 Lorenzo Rajaonarivelo Graduate George Mason  
133 132 Kyle Rowan Graduate Stanford  
174 134 Zachary Wells Graduate Presbyterian  
197 137 Coen Grimm Freshman Buffalo  
133 139 Giovanni Diaz Graduate Franklin & Marshall  
133 140 Korbin Shepherd Junior Missouri  
184 144 Damen Pape Junior Northern Colorado  
165 147 Brant Whitaker Junior Missouri  
125 162 Jacob Houpt Freshman Kent State  
285 163 Max Acciardi Freshman Cal Baptist  
141 172 Cam Soda Junior Edinboro  
174 173 Hayden Pummel Junior Northern Illinois  
157 177 Kaiden Wagner Sophomore Lock Haven  
184 182 Anthony DeRosa Junior Bloomsburg  
184 184 Connor Strong Senior Penn  
133 185 Braxton Fries Sophomore Ohio State  
125 191 Jacob Joyce Freshman Stanford  
125 191 Keegan Schlabach Freshman Clarion  
125 191 Zachary Jacaruso Freshman George Mason  
197 196 Macray Klohs Freshman NDSU  
197 197 Brett Wittman Senior Clarion  
141 209 Peyton Moore Sophomore Missouri  
285 212 Carson Hatch Senior CSU Bakersfield  
133 213 Drew Cooper Freshman Nebraska  
285 224 Peter Casale Sophomore Rutgers  
141 245 Hunter Sloan Freshman Bucknell  
133 249 Spencer Von Savoye Freshman Cal Baptist  
165 249 Zane Licht Freshman NDSU  
165 251 Griffin Ray Freshman Nebraska  
165 253 Sam Beckett Sophomore Stanford  
157 258 Aiden Smith Sophomore Northern Illinois  
165 259 Brady Conlin Freshman Rider  
174 264 Jacob Yawn Graduate Cornell  
141 265 Kaiser Simpson Freshman Cal Baptist  
165 268 Tyler Martinez Freshman Northern Illinois  
141 269 Tanner Frothinger Freshman Nebraska  
157 291 Michael Duggan Freshman Bloomsburg  

Nice work! You are keeping us updated several times a day....correct? 

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54 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

I combined the current portal in Flo with guys who announced mid season they were entering the portal, and the guys who entered early last year knowing their Ivy eligibilty was coming to an end.  Added Spencer Mooberry who posted his own news but it hasn't yet been captured by Flo or WS.  And then sorted by WS Rank:

 

Weight WS Rank Athlete 2024-25 Year Transferring From Transferring To
165 4 Dean Hamiti Senior Wisconsin Oklahoma State
197 5 Jacob Cardenas Graduate Cornell  
174 6 Lennox Wolak Graduate Columbia Virginia Tech
184 6 Chris Foca Graduate Cornell  
165 16 Caleb Fish Graduate Michigan State  
157 22 Chase Saldate Senior Michigan State Michigan
133 23 Connor McGonagle Graduate Lehigh  
197 25 Evan Bockman Graduate Utah Valley  
165 30 Josh Ogunsanya Graduate Columbia  
184 32 Brock Delsignore Junior NC State  
133 34 Sidney Flores Graduate Air Force  
125 37 Nick Babin Graduate Columbia  
149 37 Sammy Alvarez Graduate Oklahoma State  
157 38 Jason Kraisser Graduate Iowa State  
197 44 Spencer Mooberry Junior NDSU  
141 48 Nathan Higley Sophomore George Mason  
157 51 Brock McMillen Junior Pitt  
197 56 Carter Blough Sophomore Michigan State  
125 57 Evan Tallmadge Freshman Navy  
197 63 Billy Janzer Junior Rutgers  
184 63 James Lledo Graduate Pitt  
125 71 Dominic Chavez Junior Presbyterian  
174 73 Darrien Roberts Graduate Oklahoma Morgan State
285 79 Xavier Doolin Junior Northern Colorado  
285 80 Ryan Boersma Sophomore Missouri  
141 83 Benjamin Lunn Graduate Minnesota  
125 85 Zachary Espalin Junior Navy  
184 97 Branson Britten Junior Northern Colorado  
285 102 Billy Brosko Freshman Drexel  
174 112 Braden Welch Sophomore App State  
174 113 Devin Wasley Sophomore Minnesota  
165 115 Carson Miller Freshman Pitt  
149 116 Bretli Reyna Junior Iowa  
285 119 Gage Cook Sophomore Army  
197 123 Cameo Blankenship Graduate Davidson  
125 125 Aedyn Concepcion Senior Gardner-Webb  
157 126 Lorenzo Rajaonarivelo Graduate George Mason  
133 132 Kyle Rowan Graduate Stanford  
174 134 Zachary Wells Graduate Presbyterian  
197 137 Coen Grimm Freshman Buffalo  
133 139 Giovanni Diaz Graduate Franklin & Marshall  
133 140 Korbin Shepherd Junior Missouri  
184 144 Damen Pape Junior Northern Colorado  
165 147 Brant Whitaker Junior Missouri  
125 162 Jacob Houpt Freshman Kent State  
285 163 Max Acciardi Freshman Cal Baptist  
141 172 Cam Soda Junior Edinboro  
174 173 Hayden Pummel Junior Northern Illinois  
157 177 Kaiden Wagner Sophomore Lock Haven  
184 182 Anthony DeRosa Junior Bloomsburg  
184 184 Connor Strong Senior Penn  
133 185 Braxton Fries Sophomore Ohio State  
125 191 Jacob Joyce Freshman Stanford  
125 191 Keegan Schlabach Freshman Clarion  
125 191 Zachary Jacaruso Freshman George Mason  
197 196 Macray Klohs Freshman NDSU  
197 197 Brett Wittman Senior Clarion  
141 209 Peyton Moore Sophomore Missouri  
285 212 Carson Hatch Senior CSU Bakersfield  
133 213 Drew Cooper Freshman Nebraska  
285 224 Peter Casale Sophomore Rutgers  
141 245 Hunter Sloan Freshman Bucknell  
133 249 Spencer Von Savoye Freshman Cal Baptist  
165 249 Zane Licht Freshman NDSU  
165 251 Griffin Ray Freshman Nebraska  
165 253 Sam Beckett Sophomore Stanford  
157 258 Aiden Smith Sophomore Northern Illinois  
165 259 Brady Conlin Freshman Rider  
174 264 Jacob Yawn Graduate Cornell  
141 265 Kaiser Simpson Freshman Cal Baptist  
165 268 Tyler Martinez Freshman Northern Illinois  
141 269 Tanner Frothinger Freshman Nebraska  
157 291 Michael Duggan Freshman Bloomsburg  

Foca is not graduating this year.  He will be wrestling at Cornell in 2025 by deferring the fall semester.

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3 hours ago, BigRedFan said:

Foca is not graduating this year.  He will be wrestling at Cornell in 2025 by deferring the fall semester.

Well he entered the portal...

That is all the list is for.  That column under 'Transfering To' will remain empty so long as he doesn't commit to a different institution.

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50 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

Well he entered the portal...

That is all the list is for.  That column under 'Transfering To' will remain empty so long as he doesn't commit to a different institution.

Where does it say he entered the portal?  He's not on Flo's list.

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4 hours ago, BigRedFan said:

Foca is not graduating this year.  He will be wrestling at Cornell in 2025 by deferring the fall semester.

As part of his major do you know if Foca participated in "Dragon Day" yesterday? 

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7 minutes ago, BigRedFan said:

Where does it say he entered the portal?  He's not on Flo's list.

You seem to be taking this personal, bud.

Probably shouldn't.

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9 minutes ago, BigRedFan said:

Not personal.  I repeat the question:  where did you see that Foca entered the portal?

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2 hours ago, BigRedFan said:

Actually being able to see it in either Flo's in-season or post-season tracker lists.

Oh my.  You are definitely taking it personal.

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