What is Penn State’s secret sauce?

[scorenomore]

I’m sure this has been dissected before but please refresh our memories.  How can PSU get all of these top notch recruits?  
 

My guess is that the school has to have a way to provide “merit” financial aid based on some criteria.  Can anyone confirm this and what is the criteria?

- Good wrestler + good grades = 50% merit?

- Good wrestler + poor parents = 50% merit?

- Good wrestler + good test scores = 50% merit?

Something has to be going on because they get a lot of quality kids and I just can’t imagine they are paying a lot and out of state tuition.  

I realize that the Gibson’s are in state but I assume scholarship money went to Braden Davis so where does the funding come from to add Mason?

Side note, will Davis or Gibson be big enough to go 133 or is this now the same problem Ohio State has with Mendez and Bouzakis?

[Le duke]

What makes you think Gibson(s) are on scholarship at all?


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[ionel]

 

[Wrestleknownothing]

14 minutes ago, scorenomore said:

I’m sure this has been dissected before but please refresh our memories.  How can PSU get all of these top notch recruits?  
 

My guess is that the school has to have a way to provide “merit” financial aid based on some criteria.  Can anyone confirm this and what is the criteria?

- Good wrestler + good grades = 50% merit?

- Good wrestler + poor parents = 50% merit?

- Good wrestler + good test scores = 50% merit?

Something has to be going on because they get a lot of quality kids and I just can’t imagine they are paying a lot and out of state tuition.  

I realize that the Gibson’s are in state but I assume scholarship money went to Braden Davis so where does the funding come from to add Mason?

Side note, will Davis or Gibson be big enough to go 133 or is this now the same problem Ohio State has with Mendez and Bouzakis?

Alternative theory: the best want to be with the best. Best coaches, best training partners, best RTC. It becomes a virtuous cycle.

[Le duke]

Alternative theory: the best want to be with the best. Best coaches, best training partners, best RTC. It becomes a virtuous cycle.

Who would’ve thought that RBY and Gilman would make each other better? Or that DT and Jaime Espinal would make Nickal and Brooks and Dean better? Or Bekzod would make Nolf and Cenzo and Starocci better? Or that Varner and Snyder would make Kerkvliet better?

There were 7 Olympic medalists in that room last year. Seven.


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[Pish]

Secret Sauce = Cael Sanderson 

simple answer

[MPhillips]

16 minutes ago, Le duke said:

There were 7 Olympic medalists in that room last year. Seven.

YAHTZEE!

[scorenomore]

2 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Alternative theory: the best want to be with the best. Best coaches, best training partners, best RTC. It becomes a virtuous cycle.

Of course the best want to be together - that’s a no brainer and we’ll documented on the benefits of being at PSU. That doesn’t mean it is affordable which is my question. A great wrestler whose parents are middle class and out of state could not afford to attend PSU just because it is a good room. There has to be something helping the numbers work. 

[1032004]

9 hours ago, Le duke said:

What makes you think Gibson(s) are on scholarship at all?


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Do you mean any athletic scholarship, or any scholarship at all?

Erik was on record as saying he was getting a “full ride” to Cornell, so I’m sure they’re getting something at PSU either academically or need-based.  Depending on how much that is, I would think Mason at least would get something athletic, doubt Erik though.

[hlstone]

Here is how it works for my kid.

50% financial need. 35% academic scholly 15% athletic scholly.

 

[Wrestej]

Money.

[TampaTiger]

They say we are in the mirror 1000 times a day.

[Wrestleknownothing]

I think its just mayo and ketchup with a little diced pickle.

[VakAttack]

Secret sauce?  Most places charge you extra for that kind of action.

[MPhillips]

31 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

a little diced pickle.

Do people call that relish?

[ionel]

[Formally140]

The RTC providing extra help even before NIL was an open secret 

[ionel]

4 minutes ago, Formally140 said:

The RTC providing extra help even before NIL was an open secret 

weight  ru accusing em of braken the rules cause if ur  carls gonna call ewe a liar 

[headshuck]

Has the NCAA lost interest in regulating the separation of college athletes from professional athletes?

In a recent Cael interview he said Kerk tries to wrestle with veteran Snyder as often as possible. And they did spend some time living together in Cael’s basement.

[1032004]

3 minutes ago, headshuck said:

Has the NCAA lost interest in regulating the separation of college athletes from professional athletes?

In a recent Cael interview he said Kerk tries to wrestle with veteran Snyder as often as possible. And they did spend some time living together in Cael’s basement.

As long as it’s freestyle, seems to be allowed

[Husker_Du]

pretty sure the Knights Templar is involved in all this and i, for one, can't wait till someone gets to the bottom of it. 

[ionel]

5 minutes ago, headshuck said:

Has the NCAA lost interest in regulating the separation of college athletes from professional athletes?

In a recent Cael interview he said Kerk tries to wrestle with veteran Snyder as often as possible. And they did spend some time living together in Cael’s basement.

Yes

[Formally140]

26 minutes ago, ionel said:

weight  ru accusing em of braken the rules cause if ur  carls gonna call ewe a liar 

Shrug. It is what it is

[Gus]

The not so secret sauce is great coaching, support from the university and seemingly unlimited funding. That’s all it takes!

[Wrestleknownothing]

2 hours ago, headshuck said:

Has the NCAA lost interest in regulating the separation of college athletes from professional athletes?

In a recent Cael interview he said Kerk tries to wrestle with veteran Snyder as often as possible. And they did spend some time living together in Cael’s basement.

The NCAA has only had an interest in the separation of college athletes from professional to the extent that it allows them to monetize the college athlete. Central to the monetization is exemption from anti-trust laws. As they have been threatened with the lose of anti-trust protection and have lost multiple related cases up to the Supreme Court level, their ability to separate and monetize has waned.