Laxhawk174 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 1 hour ago, VakAttack said: I've just decided I'm going to pretend he doesn't exist, lol. Just picture this for a minute will you Vak. It's March 2024, Saturday night of the NCAA D1 Wrestling Championships. The team scores are neck and neck between Iowa and Penn State, stakes are high, pressure is high, excitement is high. It all comes down to 197 lbs, Aaron Brooks going for his 4th NCAA Title, vs AJ Ferrari, Iowa. Ferrari Defeats Brooks, perhaps (hopefully?) even in a controversial manner. Ferrari flexes on Cael, chairs are thrown. The entire Iowa crowd wearing the Iowa NWO shirts are flexing. It's a grand time. Life is good. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goheels1812 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 11 minutes ago, Jamie_Taco said: This sounds very similar to the Gable Steveson situation after his RS freshman year. Let's see how it plays out before comparing someone to Brock Turner. Couple things. 1st) the Gable and AJ situations are different. Gable was arrested, but never charged. AJ has been charged with felony sexual battery. 2nd) If (and I want to really emphasize the if here) AJ (or any athlete with similar charges) is convicted of a sexual assault crime against a female then it’s very fair to compare him to Brock Turner when it comes to having a second chance. I want to emphasize AJ is innocent until he’s proven guilty in a court of law. But it’s going to be natural to compare his cases to other collegiate sexual misconduct cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, goheels1812 said: Couple things. 1st) the Gable and AJ situations are different. Gable was arrested, but never charged. AJ has been charged with felony sexual battery. 2nd) If (and I want to really emphasize the if here) AJ (or any athlete with similar charges) is convicted of a sexual assault crime against a female then it’s very fair to compare him to Brock Turner when it comes to having a second chance. I want to emphasize AJ is innocent until he’s proven guilty in a court of law. But it’s going to be natural to compare his cases to other collegiate sexual misconduct cases. To add. From the little I know about law. The DA/Prosecutors won't move forward with a case unless they're fairly certain the case is winnable. Is this correct @VakAttack Edited March 21, 2023 by PortaJohn 1 I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VakAttack Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 16 minutes ago, PortaJohn said: To add. From the little I know about law. The DA/Prosecutors won't move forward with a case unless they're fairly certain the case is winnable. Is this correct @VakAttack Yes, unless it's high profile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rassling Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Seems like Iowa is a place where wrestlers go to get a second chance. Nothing wrong with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, Rassling said: Seems like Iowa is a place where wrestlers go to get a second chance. Nothing wrong with that. AJ is on his 4th or 5th chance. Is Iowa a 6th chance place? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 11 minutes ago, Rassling said: Seems like Iowa is a place where wrestlers go to get a second chance. Nothing wrong with that. I thought that was Grand Canyon U? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rassling Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 16 minutes ago, ionel said: AJ is on his 4th or 5th chance. Is Iowa a 6th chance place? Either way you have to admit it this certainly adds excitement going into 2024. Brooks vs. Ferrari champ finals would be just as exciting for me as the RBY vs Aruja match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripnsweep Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 23 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: I thought that was Grand Canyon U? They dropped wrestling years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchapman Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 27 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: I thought that was Grand Canyon U? Grand View? Craig Henning got screwed in the 2007 NCAA Finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchapman Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 39 minutes ago, Rassling said: Seems like Iowa is a place where wrestlers go to get a second chance. Nothing wrong with that. Edinboro a few years ago 1 Craig Henning got screwed in the 2007 NCAA Finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Brixton Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaldAt23 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 3 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: If I were an Iowa fan I would immediately delete every utterance of "Andrew Long" on any Iowa forum, blog, website, commemorative t-shirt, etc. Just accept that you've lost the moral high ground and will take anyone, no matter how many pending criminal charges, if it will get you closer to a NCAA team championship. Embrace it. To be fair, this was their only chance to win. There is actually a window to win a title now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudge Tunnel Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 50 minutes ago, Theo Brixton said: Need doors for Blair, Bergen Catholic, Stillwater HS, Melissa HS and a few more for the other schools they’ll be sure to disgrace 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHROMEBIRD Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Wow, Jimmy's serving up some spicy pastries. So sassy! While I think Brands is the type of coach that can get the Ferrari bros in line, Iowa doesn't need to be shopping around for damaged goods. I'm sure there are better choices out there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scourge165 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 5 hours ago, AgaveMaria said: When younger it was common practice for local judges to give young types involved in criminal activity a choice: Prosecution and jail/prison or enlist in the Military. Many chose the military. Many were helped even as some completely screwed up their lifeline. Give these guys a chance. If they can't make it at least someone tried to help. Maybe..., just maybe it will work. The middle brother and getting into a fight is one thing. Sexual assault? Whole other thing. And I know it's asinine, ignorant and I'm putting absolutely no weight behind this, but he does strike me as the type of guy who'd just assume a girl wanted him and push and not be a big fan of the word no. But that's a very biased take, lets allow the courts to figure it out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scourge165 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 5 hours ago, Jamie_Taco said: This sounds very similar to the Gable Steveson situation after his RS freshman year. Let's see how it plays out before comparing someone to Brock Turner. From what I've heard, this sounds more like the Jordan Holm situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyhoyle Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Jamie_Taco said: This sounds very similar to the Gable Steveson situation after his RS freshman year. Let's see how it plays out before comparing someone to Brock Turner. Gable was never charged.....AJ is not competing next year and likely never will again at the NCAA level. 7 hours ago, goheels1812 said: Couple things. 1st) the Gable and AJ situations are different. Gable was arrested, but never charged. AJ has been charged with felony sexual battery. 2nd) If (and I want to really emphasize the if here) AJ (or any athlete with similar charges) is convicted of a sexual assault crime against a female then it’s very fair to compare him to Brock Turner when it comes to having a second chance. I want to emphasize AJ is innocent until he’s proven guilty in a court of law. But it’s going to be natural to compare his cases to other collegiate sexual misconduct cases. AJ posted a video of himself taking a gun out the trunk of his car and then aimlessly shooting it into the night. He also almost killed multiple people by driving recklessly. He should have been kicked off of the team the second that video was posted, and definitely after the car accident. Even if he is acquitted due to the reasonable doubt standard, any D1 coach that allows him onto a college campus is being foolish. And I am making that statement merely off of the judge finding enough evidence to send this case to trial and the fact that there is a video of him shooting guns blindly into the night. And yes, PSU was wrong to allow Andrew Long onto their team. It is by far the worst decision Cael has made as a coach, and in retrospect I hope there isn't a single fan who thinks that NCAA title was worth the damage done to the PSU community. Some things are more important than wrestling. Everyone deserves a second chance, but that second chance does not need to be at the NCAA level. Andrew Long's second (or third) chances should never have put students (and their families) at risk, and if AJ is ever given a second chance, it needs to be through something like MMA. Edited March 21, 2023 by billyhoyle 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82bordeaux Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 8 hours ago, Rassling said: Seems like Iowa is a place where wrestlers go to get a second chance. Nothing wrong with that. The only problem with a second chance is that it is a second chance for another college student to be assaulted. It would be hard to justify a "nothing wrong with that" explanation to her parents from the University of Iowa administration. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 (edited) 52 minutes ago, 82bordeaux said: The only problem with a second chance is that it is a second chance for another college student to be assaulted. It would be hard to justify a "nothing wrong with that" explanation to her parents from the University of Iowa administration. As been posted many times, its not a second chance. Edited March 21, 2023 by ionel 1 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formally140 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Oof Iowa oof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 7 hours ago, scourge165 said: The middle brother and getting into a fight is one thing. Sexual assault? Whole other thing. I thought the consensus rumor about the middle brother involves a gun(s) I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 hour ago, PortaJohn said: I thought the consensus rumor about the middle brother involves a gun(s) Plus if you've watched on mat behavior of the youngest its not much different than the other two. There was an apple tree ... 1 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, ionel said: Plus if you've watched on mat behavior of the youngest its not much different than the other two. There was an apple tree ... I don't think it's fair to compare some flexing on the mat with the behavior that the others have been accused of. After all, it was not AJ's on mat persona that got him in trouble... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, Gus said: I don't think it's fair to compare some flexing on the mat with the behavior that the others have been accused of. After all, it was not AJ's on mat persona that got him in trouble... Are the 3 brothers close? I assume yes. I assume they will hang out and live together if they end up at the same college. I assume they will go out together and get into trouble together... Doubt it's 2 of them out at the bar and the 3rd one studying in the library. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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