billyhoyle

Terrible. This guy was an absolute legend in high school.

At least he didn't lose a New York state title from it.

How many times does he need to be arrested for it to no longer be pearl clutching? At some point it becomes his fault, right?

The debate at the time wasn't that a slam was called. It was that he injury defaulted after the slam and then was completely fine 5 hours later and won in the semifinals easily.

Great points. That's why it's a questionable call and could go either way. It was a split second decision. We can clearly see from the video that she wasn't going to hit him (and she didn't), but how could he have known that? In no world did he commit premeditated murder. But did he act recklessly? Did his actions follow the justifiable use of force in his training? Those are questions that a prosecutor and jury should consider and in my view could go either way. They're not something I have an answer to or presume to know. The only thing that is obvious to me is that he has demonstrated that he is terrible at his job for repeatedly walking in front of cars.

Yeah, I'm not arguing with that. My view is that she acted stupidly and he is an incompetent law enforcement officer. That combination led to the shooting. 6 months ago the guy walked in front of a car with a driver in it. The driver took off and hit the officer. 6 months later, he did the exact same thing and opened fire. How did he not learn that you shouldn't walk in front of a car with a driver in it? The guy literally is an adult who walks in traffic-that is a universal sign of somebody who is incompetent.

I'm not debating the shooting. Yes, she was protesting and was being annoying. None of that changes the fact that the guy is terrible at his job and never should have walked in front of the car.

I think the shooting is up for debate. The wheels were turning left and not at him, but he may not have realized it. He also probably should have tried to get out of the way of the car rather than opening fire. It could go either way and should be decided by a jury-I'm not the right person to decide if it is criminal. What I don't think is up for debate is that this guy is clearly incompetent. So it is disturbing that there are these poorly trained ICE officers policing the suburbs. I'd like to see them go after real criminals and not suburban lesbian moms.

I'm not debating the shooting. I'm just saying the guy is terrible at his job and borderline incompetent for repeatedly walking in front of cars. I am more curious why somebody so poorly trained is an officer than I am about the split-second decision.

Maybe CTE from that slam win at nationals. Could the injury default have been real after all?

Which week in the ICE training academy do they teach you to put your body in front of a car?

That's what I said. He as on the side of the car and then walked directly in front of it. The exact same thing happened to him 6 months earlier as well.

Regardless of whether you think he was justified in his actions because of self defense, the guy clearly sucks at his job. That was the second time in 6 months he had been hit by a car. In the video, he clearly walks in front of the car even though the driver was sitting in it with the car on. Every time i've seen real police officers do stops, they are on the driver or passenger side vehicle, or behind the car. In what world is placing your body in front of a car a good idea. Maybe their training is more focused on protecting the border, because he had no clue what he was doing.

In Fleeger's defense, his first instinct after the shoulder check was to injury default and take a win by default, but then he realized he is no longer competing. This was the next best thing he could do.

Lawyers whenever a team gives Ferrari NIL money: