billyhoyle

Terrible. This guy was an absolute legend in high school.

At least he didn't lose a New York state title from it.

How many times does he need to be arrested for it to no longer be pearl clutching? At some point it becomes his fault, right?

The debate at the time wasn't that a slam was called. It was that he injury defaulted after the slam and then was completely fine 5 hours later and won in the semifinals easily.

Great points. That's why it's a questionable call and could go either way. It was a split second decision. We can clearly see from the video that she wasn't going to hit him (and she didn't), but how could he have known that? In no world did he commit premeditated murder. But did he act recklessly? Did his actions follow the justifiable use of force in his training? Those are questions that a prosecutor and jury should consider and in my view could go either way. They're not something I have an answer to or presume to know. The only thing that is obvious to me is that he has demonstrated that he is terrible at his job for repeatedly walking in front of cars.

Yeah, I'm not arguing with that. My view is that she acted stupidly and he is an incompetent law enforcement officer. That combination led to the shooting. 6 months ago the guy walked in front of a car with a driver in it. The driver took off and hit the officer. 6 months later, he did the exact same thing and opened fire. How did he not learn that you shouldn't walk in front of a car with a driver in it? The guy literally is an adult who walks in traffic-that is a universal sign of somebody who is incompetent.

I'm not debating the shooting. Yes, she was protesting and was being annoying. None of that changes the fact that the guy is terrible at his job and never should have walked in front of the car.

I think the shooting is up for debate. The wheels were turning left and not at him, but he may not have realized it. He also probably should have tried to get out of the way of the car rather than opening fire. It could go either way and should be decided by a jury-I'm not the right person to decide if it is criminal. What I don't think is up for debate is that this guy is clearly incompetent. So it is disturbing that there are these poorly trained ICE officers policing the suburbs. I'd like to see them go after real criminals and not suburban lesbian moms.

I'm not debating the shooting. I'm just saying the guy is terrible at his job and borderline incompetent for repeatedly walking in front of cars. I am more curious why somebody so poorly trained is an officer than I am about the split-second decision.

Maybe CTE from that slam win at nationals. Could the injury default have been real after all?

Which week in the ICE training academy do they teach you to put your body in front of a car?

That's what I said. He as on the side of the car and then walked directly in front of it. The exact same thing happened to him 6 months earlier as well.

Regardless of whether you think he was justified in his actions because of self defense, the guy clearly sucks at his job. That was the second time in 6 months he had been hit by a car. In the video, he clearly walks in front of the car even though the driver was sitting in it with the car on. Every time i've seen real police officers do stops, they are on the driver or passenger side vehicle, or behind the car. In what world is placing your body in front of a car a good idea. Maybe their training is more focused on protecting the border, because he had no clue what he was doing.

In Fleeger's defense, his first instinct after the shoulder check was to injury default and take a win by default, but then he realized he is no longer competing. This was the next best thing he could do.

Lawyers whenever a team gives Ferrari NIL money:

Christopher Nolan didn't write The Odyssey. Homer did.

That's why I included the caveat if he profited from it, he could face charges. If you are a public employee (or really the employee of any company but it's obviously worse as a public employee) and entrusted with a budget, you can't spend that money in a way where you personally profit from control of the budget. If you already have a deal with Nike to supply equipment, purchasing equipment from your wife's company with university funds in a way where you profit would likely be viewed as a form of self-dealing or an attempt to embezzle those funds. And yeah, it seems ridiculous to potentially face loss of your job and felony charges over $4,000 given his salary (assuming what was said in this thread is correct), but it's just one of those rules you can't break. One of these two possibilities you described is orders of magnitude worse than the other. If you used the team budget, you are potentially facing a criminal charge because you are self-dealing. If you used your own money (or potentially even money from the wrestling club if it's not affiliated with the uni), you pissed off Nike, but IMO he should never have been suspended for just wearing the wrong gear at a wrestling match.

He could potentially face a charge for embezzling funds from the university if he profited from the transaction. That is probably a bigger concern than the Nike deal.

Calling it dominating is a stretch. Pico had two takedowns but couldn't keep him down. Standing up was fairly even until the knockout. Plus that was only four minutes. He's only 28, so I don't see why it's over for him. He just has a tendency to get knocked out, so he'll probably always be a journeyman. Wouldn't be surprised if he gets into the top 10 or top 5 at some point though if UFC keeps him around.

This is more convincing. I don't think 1.5 point TD helps though. Maybe just going back to 2 pt. Or maybe giving more points on a takedown for initiating a move versus scoring on a counter. I do think it is good that an athlete who scores a TD is rewarded over one who scores an escape and gets a RT or stall point.

That is a pretty significant decrease in your effect size just by including tech falls (you've lost about 20% of it). I wonder how much more of that effect is lost if you were to count overtime matches where one takedown was scored as one takedown matches? And then when you plot the trend, I bet there is minimal change of one takedown matches comparing the most recent years prior to 2023 and 2024-2025.

This logic makes no sense. A takedown becomes only 0.5 points more than an escape? There'd be little incentive to waste energy trying to get takedowns early in the match. A reverse becomes exactly the same as an escape? Everyone in the top position would give up a reversal on purpose. And you did a poor job interpreting your data by comparing 1993-2023 and 2024 to 2025. The trend was heading to fewer points per match from 1993 to 2023. You have to plot the trend. Another huge issue with your analysis was discounting overtime matches. Are fewer matches going to overtime with this rule change? How did removing tech falls impact your analysis? Are more matches now ending in technical fall?

The one difference is this guy was almost murdered not too long ago, and had his entire dream and what he thought was his future taken away from him. Drugs and guns seems like a reasonable human response to this. Drugs as pain management (mental and physical) and the guns for self defense but realistically as a way to feel safe. Obviously though, this is not a healthy way to deal with the situation. I think the response here should be to get him help. But yeah, he probably shouldn't be coaching for a few months until this is resolved.

Either trump is a liar who is covering up for a pedophile, or maybe there isn't some crazy worldwide conspiracy related to this case. Maybe Epstein was exactly who we have known he was for a decade, which is a sick/evil individual who was helped to avoid jail by officials in Florida. What makes more sense: a worldwide cospiracy that Biden and Trump are both behind? Or a rich person using his money and influence to get out of prison?

So I guess your 80 year old hall of fame football coach can have an over-controlling 24 year old girlfriend, OR your wrestling team can bring in a transfer who was charged with sexual battery, is a pretty reckless driver, and is on video discharging firearms indiscriminately. But both is a no go.