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Well, let's see him earn the spot then? Wrestlestat favors Voinovich.

What about Paniro or Zerban at 165lbs?

Yes. They both maintain to this day that they were in the right.

After seeing Caliendo, Hall, and Bearclaw lose to the likes of Scott, Blaze, and Jacques at 74 KG (163lbs) - I am not convinced dropping to 157lbs from 165lbs is better than going up to 174lbs. Caliendo has the horse to go 174lbs and would only have Haines to contend with, really, rather than a slew of contenders and the unknown of the cut. Is Haines at 174 > Mesenbrink at 165? Even if equal, do you take the chance because you know how a Monster Mitch match goes 10/10 time - it ends in the L.

My 'thinking' he could go 174 is that he has a different kind of monster to go through than Monster Mitch. I don't think he's the same animal at 157 as he is at 165. I don't think it makes any sense.

Iowa 125 - Peterson 133 - Ayala 141 - Bailey 149 - K. Voinovich, Block, or Rhodes 157 - V. Voinovich, Estrada (RS) 165 - Caliendo, Kennedy 174 - Kennedy, Caliendo 184 - Focus 197 - Endene, Ludington (RS) 285 - Keuter, Fleshman (just b/c)

The kid needs to go where he will have that help. If that is with his cousin, J'den for a season (unenrolled and focused on MFS), Kevin Jackson (UofM), UNI, or Mizzou, I am happy. Hell, Lock Haven, were he to 'need' to go there is fine by me, too.

Lock Haven?

I can't figure out the new damage Hawkeye forum. Age if a fickle bitch.

Sadly, I hope he gets the help he needs. That said, Michigan makes sense as well. Cox as praised Kevin Jackson in his ability to not just lead and coach, but to be there for him when he needed him the most - every time.

I can't imagine the tension in the air over there right now. I hope we can all see who each federation determines as their best wrestler, per age group, at each worlds event. Unfortunately, for us, Earth politics effect everything and any/all wrestling that we get is a luxury for us fans.

One of the Tate brothers offering to cover the lung transplant.

I was too. Were Starocci to mention someone who mentions to someone who mentions to someone... who is to say who is safe in that scenario? I was defending them remaining anonymous. That said, as you also said - he (Starocci) knows what he did to who and when. They aren't going to be anonymous were Starocci to want to take an aggressive, retaliatory approach.

I don't think the coaching staff would have simply stood by and allowed any wrestler to act however they wanted and plausible deniability might not even be a factor here. It’s possible Bartlett brought something up - maybe hinting at events without stating them outright - and wasn’t explicitly shut down, but may have felt shut down. Speaking up against a teammate, especially someone considered a brother by most of your closest friends (and by you, at one point), might require more than just courage to fully follow through. This isn’t a defense of anyone’s actions - just an attempt to suggest how things might have played out. It’s ambiguous for a reason: I imagine it was just as ambiguous in the moment, especially to those in authority.

Yep.

We as a community should fear indifference to bad, evil, or incompetence just as much - if not more - than the acts themselves. Bad is bad. Evil is evil. Incompetence is incompetence. Once a certain line is crossed, it’s unacceptable by any standard. Letting a wrestler stick their thumb up a training partner’s keester is simply bad. Grooming underage people - regardless of gender - is unequivocally evil. Failing to follow proper procedures to ensure a thorough investigation is the definition of incompetence. To act as if these things are not bad, evil, or incompetent is just as damaging as committing the act itself, because you are verbally excusing the acts. Words have value, and so does our courage to call out what’s truly wrong. Yes, there’s a legal process that must play out to determine guilt. But even before that, defending any of these actions - or trying to claim they aren’t evil, bad, or incompetent - is phucking abhorrent.

This part here? He doesn't need to be the one to personally retaliate for his words to have serious consequences. Even subtle comments or rumors spread in private circles can escalate quickly. Words can easily incite others to act - sometimes even violently. We’ve seen this play out repeatedly in recent years: hateful rhetoric online often translates into real-world harm. So it’s not egomaniacal to consider this risk - it’s a realistic concern, given the current climate where accountability is often lacking. To ignore the power of words and the ripple effects they can have is naïve at best.

Being the only '5' timer makes it so he likely deserved a spot. All this? Gone.

Yeah, he got baited by some 17 year old. Just looks bad all around.

But the entire wrestling fan base crapped on the kid, more or less. That was my point.

Some journo asked if his guys need to sequence better, did he not?

The kid who asked Cael if he should be sequencing better - paraphrasing.

This is a trick question. I cannot allow myself to be baited in a manner such as how Minnow was baited this AM on the Twatter.

UWW says he will be 19 this year? Meaning before January 1st, 2026.

She had a great right cross of her own. Dodn't back down. I don't think she wrote it, though.