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Everything posted by nhs67
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I think Sealey is odd-man out. Duke will Greyshirt then Redshirt then either be 157 or 165. Ryder at 174. Barr at 184. Mirasolas at 197/285. I think we see a couple outbound transfers after this season, like Bearclaw, in Evans and Cochran at the very least. Evans (141) and Cochran (197) could have similar success to Bearclaw is having this year at another institution next season. Facundo (who might be okay being a MFS guy) and Barr (Facundo's best friend IRL) and the Mirasola brothers both seem to be package deals, so who knows?
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I understand and accept their ranking reasoning. It gets muckier when you try to seed for B1Gs, though.
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He is trying to weasel his way out on the chance that Focus Jr starts instead.
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We are in agreement on the timing. Also, Pinto, while a physical beast, was rumored before last season to make the drop, too. I don't think he was heavy for 184lbs. They might have used last season and Wilson's less-than-stellar season at 174lbs as the determination to make the drop. I.e. Pinto was headed down either way and it was Allred to 184 or a hole at 184.
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Here are their remaining schedules, btw: SVN: - D'Emilio, tOSU - Webster, ILL - Owen, American Parco: - Roberts, Minny - Cartella, NW - Young, OSU Lovett: - Torres, Indiana - Ruble, Purdue
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I think in hindsight, most would agree with the cut. That said, their numbers are rather bloated and bonus will go down drastically after B1Gs and NCAAs. Allred was 20W-5L with a 60% bonus rate prior to the postseason last year and finished at 52% and a 26W-8L record. Pinto was 19W-3L with a 37% bonus prior to the postseason last year and finished with 30% and 24W-6L record. I know their current bonus rates are still higher this year than last, but there are other things to consider as well, including graduation of last years wrestlers, natural improvement, etc.
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I also don't think it is relevant that he lost to Henson. That said, when all three have identical B1G records (for B1G seeding purpsoes), how do you differentiate? You count other matches. Only one of them has another loss, even if against a non-B1G opponent. All I mean, is it could factor in and for seeding purposes at NCAAs, he currently loses the winning percentage criteria to both Parco and SVN.
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For seeding purposes, you really have three options... Option 1: - Eliminate Lovett due to having an additional loss (albeit not in-conference), and place him at the '3' - SVN > Parco due to H2H - 1 SVN, 2 Parco, 3 Lovett Option 2: - Eliminate Parco because he has not won via Major, but has lost via Major - Lovett > SVN due to H2H - 1 Lovett, 2 SVN, 3 Parco Option 3 - Parco won the last match between the three - Lovett > SVN due to H2H - 1 Parco, 2 Lovett, 3 SVN It is difficult for me to ignore that two of them have one (1) loss and one has two (2) losses. It is also difficult for me to not reward the method of victory/loss. Imagine the old MFS scoring brackets. SVN, 4-1, 1-4, 5 points Lovett 4-1, 1-3, 5 points Parco 3-1, 1-4, 4 points Lovett > SVN due to H2H 1 - Lovett 2 - SVN 3 - Parco ^ How I want it based off my own reasoning. I think it will be SVN, Parco, Lovett, though, based off my initial reasoning.
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7th is better than all except maybe 4 or 5 people that post on these forums.
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I always thought exactly this as well. Also, it isn't a forgone conclusion that Rogers doesn't win the 174, or even 184 spot - were he given the chance (which is widely speculated that he was not). He was dangerous, in the aspect that he was a thrower and a pinner.
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2018 - Snyder, Coon, Dhesi 2019 - Cassar, White, Steveson Not that big a drop-off, honestly, but Snyder was always more cutout for MFS as it were anyways. When was the last time we lost an Olympic medalist other than last year and 2018?
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Allred has been underrated because both him and Pinto have underperformed on the season compared to what folks thought they would be at. Having close matches with Gavin Kane and Caleb Uhlenhopp to start the season at 184lbs then getting destroyed (yes that word) in three straight matches to Keckeisen, McEnelly, and Starocci weren't in Allred's or Nebraska's cards when they said "This former B1G Champ is dropping a weight class." The same can be said for Pinto, who was a 2B much of last season at 184lbs while being a physical horse against EVERYBODY he faced last season leading up to NCAAs. He lost to Simma, Ruiz, and Wask then got destroyed by Haines, a guy coming up from 174lbs. Pinto did avenge the Simma loss, but just barely (6-5) and his victory over Kennedy was his first potential AA caliber victory on the season. I am sure the coaching staff and both Allred and Pinto both thought the drop in weight would be more... dominating for them. It leaves one to wonder if the drop will have been worth it. You have two guys at 165lbs now (Wilson and Minto) who are having better seasons than the guy they made room for at 197lbs (McDaniel) - all respects due. Had there been a prediction thread to start the season between Nebraska and Iowa, I am sure we would have had a few more people pick Pinto and Allred than the thread last week.
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Starocci 20-3 Tech over a Top 10 guy has to have the other 184lbers deucing theyselves. The only other person in his collegiate career, redshirt included, to bonus him is Aaron Brooks last year via 13-4 Major.
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The match played out the same way. Parris over-extending w/ Masoumi catching him on the way in. That 9-6 was only 9-6 because Masoumi wasn't trying. You're talking to the biggest Parris fanboy on these forums. That said, a duck is a duck. I would take Parris in a potential match with Zare before I would a rematch with Masoumi.
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I think Haines went up because they were both ohysically 157lbers last year and he was actually bigger, so he decided two weights was nothing. Haines frame is much better suited to wrestle 174 than MM.
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Did you watch the match? Masoumi was never close to losing or in danger.
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And top game. Max Dean beat one of the heaviest favorites of the 2019 NCAAs in Myles Martin because of it, as well.
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Did he retire? Otherwise I don't see how or why we would write off the defending Olympic Champion.
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He had already lost to Masoumi in the past. This result wasn't a surprise.
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I don't know why, in this current state of collegiate wrestling, you would want to take one of the most stable and supported programs and gut the coaching staff. Do you want less wrestling programs? Who would Wyoming get to replace him that is going to be a guaranteed average coach (at worst)? Branch, down the line for every attribute, is at least slightly better than average. There is no area where he isn't average (at worst). Getting rid of him puts the program much closer to the chopping block than he currently is.
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I think we have a better chance of seeing him reclassify to this class than to de-commit/re-commit.
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RBY vs Specner Likely tomorrow at 6:30 Est
nhs67 replied to Truzzcat's topic in International Wrestling
I don't think so, but I am not currently competing. -
How do my Irani friends here think a potential Parris-Masoumi rematch goes? Does the gap widen, or does Parris actually show some sign(s) of life this time that aren't just reactive, garbage points scored?
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RBY vs Specner Likely tomorrow at 6:30 Est
nhs67 replied to Truzzcat's topic in International Wrestling
Oh! One actual reason might be it is a ranking series event, for 'seeding' purposes. Of which Gomez just might not give two deuces of. -
RBY vs Specner Likely tomorrow at 6:30 Est
nhs67 replied to Truzzcat's topic in International Wrestling
The same thing stopping Micic or Cuba from sending a full team the last several years. Many countries only offer the Olympic weights or will only offer 'coaching support' if they enter in Olympic weights. What that might mean is that 'yes' they can go 61 KG or 70 KG (like Gomez), but they will absolutely need to finance (or have their team) finance their trip. For RBY, it could simply be that he knows 57 KG is his Olympic weight and he knows he needs to get more reps weighing in (or around) 57 KG. Gomez doesn't seem to have issue with making 65 KG and his style allows him to be dangerous at 70 KG, still. Also, 65 KG -> 70 KG is much different than 57 KG -> 61 KG. I know it is actually a lower number difference, but I feel like you see more 65 KG guys up at 70 KG than we do 57 kG guys at 61 KG, which means your opponent's styles will be the same. In summary, to answer your question: I don't have a damned clue.