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Wow, that is interesting. mspart

You commit a crime entering the country illegally. You commit a crime seeking asylum under false pretenses. Hopping the border does not make you a criminal? Ask most countries in the world and see what you get in response. Every heard of the visa program. Most countries eventually require that of foreigners if they plan to stay. Failure to do so is an offense against the criminal code of that country. This really isn't that hard to understand. mspart

What is the prison term for unlawfully trespassing? I'll help you out, it is one year. Most of these had more than that as the DOJ wanted to make examples of everyone. But by your own admission, they did not do anything worth more than a year, yet they had sentences that went beyond that. And can you call it trespassing when the doors are open, police are escorting and holding doors open for them? The videos are conclusive of what of the doors being opened and held open and police escorting. They even escorted the shaman around so what to make of that. That's why there was such resistance to letting those videos out. The shaman is clearly a threat has he walks the halls with police in tow. The fact of the matter is the majority of those convicted or who plead guilty were over sentenced. mspart

I think if they come back it will be univited and if ICE under Trump finds them they will probably go to the pokie. mspart

I heard this on the radio and looked it up and found original thoughts of the framers of the 14th amendment: https://americanmind.org/features/the-case-against-birthright-citizenship/the-citizenship-clause-of-the-fourteenth-amendment-the-congressional-debate/ Howard’s remarks introducing the new language in the Senate have attracted much attention—and much controversy. “I do not propose to say anything on that subject,” Howard said, “except that the question of citizenship has been so fully discussed in this body as not to need any further elucidation, in my opinion. This amendment which I have offered is simply declaratory of what I regard as the law of the land already, that every person born within the limits of the of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country.”[3] This linked article discusses the original thoughts regarding the citizenship section of amendment 14 and it is interesting to read. Now, it appears SCOTUS said something different in their case per the citation that WKN has provided. So there appears to be an originalist argument that runs counter to the SCOTUS decision. Like I said, the linked article is interesting. mspart

Yes, we had Chaz/Chop here on Capitol Hill in Seattle. They would not allow city resourced in and the city obeyed. If someone got shot or otherwise needed to get to the hospital, the had to get out of the zone so they could be picked up. It was a wonderful summer of love as the Seattle mayor described it. And that went on for weeks until it imploded. mspart

And in Seattle. Thousands dead from decriminalization. mspart

Vischy slime! mspart

But the law was not needed according to what you are saying. So why was it needed? Seems like a quirk in history. mspart

So you are against any bill curbing the 2nd amendment or any other part of the constitution? mspart

Here in Seattle, It would be high hundreds coming on to thousands. Police were laser shot in the eyes, ice bottles thrown that them, destruction of property not just from arson, police precinct burned down, at another precinct they tried to lock the doors and burn the police alive inside their own building. Protesters wandered onto I-5 with impunity. And then there's Portland OR. mspart

That doesn't sound like many people given the participation rate of the BLM riots here in Seattle. For goodness sake, they took over a neighborhood and called it Chaz and then Chop autonamous regions that the mayor called the summer of love. They were allowed to police themselves and that didn't turn out so well when people started getting killed. So 110 under consideration is ok with you when 260 were arrested? And you are ok with only 260 arrested? mspart

RV - What does he really want? mspart

1. Indian Citizenship Act of 1924, why was this necessary given the 14th amendment. 2. Personally I think EOs should not be used except in rare occasions, or only in those things that are executive in nature and not legislative. For instance an EO stopping enforcement of immigration law should be immediately suspect and not followed on legislative grounds. An EO turning that around would be a proper use of an EO. 3. I agree that this is what makes the President into would be dictator. 4. Since there is no line item veto, an EO should not be used to say I'll enforce this part but not that part. 5. An EO eliminating student debt is not legal. And it should be apparent. That is the legislature's prerogative. Why it has the force of law I do not understand. How did EOs that make new law get to the legal status of actual new law? That needs to be reversed. mspart

Again you didn't answer the question. What other rights in the Constitution should be curbed by Congressional action? mspart

Trump had a part to play due to the pandemic. Congress (dems controlled) more than willingly chose to spend money to get out of that spiral. We were coming out when Biden had another D congress appropriate even more and then spent crazy on green new deal and inflation reduction act. Yes, Trump reacted to the issue and it was under control . Biden made it worse. Up until the pandemic the economy was running great. It hasn't been there since. That's why we have Trump again. mspart

Today is the worst. I cannot see what I am typing for 15 seconds and can see for 5 seconds. It just cuts out. I can't move the cursor or anything. There has to be a way for the ads to do their thing and not bog the site down like this. mspart

Bird flu is a different issue like covid is. Biden doesn't get any credit for covid because he spent his way out of it and caused 9% inflation and we are living with the effects of that still. He caused the current economic issues by spending another huge amount on covid spending then a huge amount on the green new deal/inflation reduction act. mspart

https://komonews.com/news/local/city-attorney-charges-brought-in-8-out-of-261-protest-related-arrests-in-seattle City Attorney: charges brought in 8 out of 261 protest related arrests in Seattle That is 3% of those arrested in Seattle. The next question is why were only 261 arrested? I don't think that constitutes many many. Maybe other jurisdictions persecuted more. But I think this was fairly typical around the country. mspart

WKN - Just asking when was this opinion made? Is it possible for it to be amended? It certainly is compelling. mspart

Yes that did happen. But before that happened, we had a lot of economic activity that was positive. Plus you live in FL where the restrictions were lifted quickly and didn't feel the full weight of the lock downs. Here in WA we lived in lock down mode for over a year and a half. mspart

Ouch!!! Stinking tax dodger! mspart

You did not address my question. It would seem you only hold this position on laws to restrict constitutional rights to the second amendment. That is inconsistent to say the least. mspart

Better investigate. mspart