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  1. Hasn't been discussed here, but this officially came down the pipe this morning. https://lehighsports.com/news/2025/5/27/lehigh-university-adds-womens-wrestling-as-26th-varsity-sport Sixth D1 to add the sport, joining Iowa, Presbyterian, Sacred Heart, Lindenwood and Delaware State. Among NCAA schools, that's now 116 teams. As of this moment, there's 37 Division II schools with the sport and 74 Division III. Definitely a plus since the academic profile of Lehigh is a draw.
    13 points
  2. The USA was one of the first to explicitly set up a *separation* of church and state in the constitution to allow folks to follow or not follow whatever they want.
    12 points
  3. Never has so much time been spent talking about something that hardly ever happens. Thrust me on this, the people who have their panties in a bunch over this not only don’t watch women’s sports, they HATE women’s sports. It’s just an excuse for bigots to bully a marginalized group.
    10 points
  4. **Caveat, I do not know Ben Askren...or at least I don't talk to Ben Askren, but I know SOME people who are in his circle. Acute Pneumonia is what I've heard. I asked about the staph infection and apparently he had one, but that's not a pressing issue at the moment. While acute pneumonia can be deadly, it is GENERALLY only deadly for people who have pre-existing conditions or who are not in good shape. Knowing what I know of Ben, he could go out and run a marathon(well...just prior to this he could have) and wrestled a full 7 minute match. I couldn't understand if he was in a medically induced coma, if he was given something to help him sleep or if he was non-responsive from the pneumonia. It sounded like he was unresponsive because the Drs had given him something... but to make VERY-VERY clear, this is someone I know who is tangentially related to AWA and who may or may not have spoken to someone who's in the know. But the key here and the only thing I got that I have confidence in, is that it was acute pneumonia and the dangers of that are mostly impacted by your pre-existing conditions. So...the type of thing you would think a world class athlete like Ben Askren could suffer from.... but I would suspect the way he lives and how he takes care of himself will make all the difference here. Here's hoping he's on Flo or something in a couple months talking about how much this sucked and what a fluke thing it was. I wouldn't bet against Askren.
    10 points
  5. With the USA's struggles at 65kg over the past twenty years and the revolving door that is USA reps at the weight, I went back year by year to 2006 and looked found every medalist in Worlds and Olympics. During this span, 12 wrestlers have represented the red white and blue. 6 of them were 1 time reps. 4 have represented the USA twice. Zain has been the man on three separate occasions, and Metcalf leads the pack with 4 trips to the World Championships. This made me wonder if other countries have had a similar lack of continuity with their representatives, as well as similar struggles to place at the worlds most competitive weight class. Here are the most to least medals by country since 2006. 1. Russia: 12 total medals from 8 different wrestlers. 4 gold, 2 silver, 6 bronze 2. Japan: 6 medals from 3 different wrestlers. 4 gold, 1 silver, 1 bronze 3. India: 6 medals from two different wrestlers. 1 gold, 2 silver, 3 bronze 4. Iran: 5 medals from 3 different wrestlers. 1 gold, 3 silver, 1 bronze 5: Georgia: 5 medals from 2 different wrestlers. 1 gold, 1 silver, 3 bronze 6. Cuba: 5 medals from 2 different wrestlers. 1 silver, 4 bronze 7. Hungary: 3 medals from Muszukajev. 1 gold, 2 bronze 8. Azerbaijan: 3 medals from two different wrestlers. 3 silver 9. Mongolia: 3 medals from two different wrestlers. 3 bronze 10. Turkey: 2 gold medals from Sahin. 11: USA: 1 gold from Zadick, 1 silver from Diakomihalis. 12. Italy: Chamizo 1 gold, 1 bronze / Armenia: 1 gold and 1 bronze. 13: Ukraine, Navruzov, Kazakhstan, Puerto Rico all with 1 silver and 1 bronze each. 14. Poland with 1 silver. 15. Moldova, Kyrgyzstan, and Albania with 1 bronze each. Some other interesting notes that I discovered during this research include.. No wrestler has won 3 golds at 65kg, and only three have claimed 2. Otuguru for Japan, Romonov for Russia, and Sahin for Turkey. Only Tushishvili of Georgia, Lopez of Cuba, Punia of India, Romonov, Muszukajev, and Yonemitsu have medaled 3 times at the weight. Only Tushishvili and Punia have earned four medals with 1 silver and 3 bronze respectively, and no one has 5 medals. Of the 40 medalists over the past 20 years, exactly 20 of those wrestlers earned just 1 medal at the weight class. I spent far too much time putting this together (I'm sure someone better with excel could have done it much faster than I) and maybe @Wrestleknownothing can create an interesting graphic from this information if it suits his interest. Nevertheless, if you actually take the time to read this, I'd love to for you to share any takeaways you might have from the information, how it pertains to USA wrestling, or just the landscape of 65kg as a whole.
    10 points
  6. Someone on the Penn State forum posted a screen grab of a picture she posted on Twitter. She pulls no punches, that is for sure.
    9 points
  7. Class of 2027 Guesses: ****Please note, I have no inside info, these are just some guesses based on a myriad of different factors and maybe what seems to make sense, at least to me.*** Melvin Miller- Iowa. Just do not see a world where he does not go with Bo to Iowa. Not even sure where I would guess outside of Iowa. Obv everyone will be after him, he is an absolute monster. Joe Bachman- Lehigh or PSU. I think Lehigh has a really good year next year which attracts some more folks and they also do a great job with their guys and education is top notch, feels like a fit maybe. If not Lehigh, would be hard to see PSU letting him slip out of PA. Saw UPenn in the mix somewhere, maybe this forum, so that could be a thing as well. Darian Cruz is a really good assistant I think. Sonny Amato- Rutgers or VA Tech. Amato is a huge talent and it would be hard see RU letting him get away, because I am sure they want to lock Jersey down. Seems like he would also be a fit with VA Tech because he is in that weight range where they have had lots of success recently. Landon Sidun- Iowa, PSU, and VA Tech- Iowa very much in play per willie so obv that is an indicator. Kid is a massive talent and VA Tech has signed some real dudes of late so just a thought. PSU should also be a player here I am guessing as it would be hard to see him leaving PA. Side note would be awesome to see Pitt snag him- maybe with Roselli there they have a shot. Borge- Oklahoma State or Mizzou- Just going based off geography here. I know as a youth he wrestled out of MO, so figuring would be a homecoming of sorts, and am also guessing they know him pretty well. As noted he will be attending HS in Stilly, so that would have one think they have to have a great shot there. I also think he can be a good bit bigger and end up 65/74? Maybe. Also, I could see him being a fit at Iowa. Burnett- Ohio State/PSU/Purdue. Burnett is really solid, well coached and competes hard. Again kind of a theme here but would be hard for me to see Ohio State not putting up a massive push to keep him home. However, teammate Blaze is headed to PSU so I imagine that relationship runs deep and he could end up there. Other teammate is at Purdue and I wonder with Ramos on staff if that is an attractive option. Mario Carini- Oregon St/ASU/Michigan. Carini has placed at everything as an underclassman in the heavier weights, which proves his mettle. It is a need weight for ASU and he is close, ASU has not gotten a ton of Poway guys but you would think they are in play. Also, Oregon State has had tons of success with elite CA kids of late and Willie noted that they will be one of the most improved teams in the country, so adding those two together this is what I have. Also, Michigan because they have a strong RTC and Poway kids wrestle a ton of FS/GR and also who wouldn't want a pipeline to Poway? Tsarni- VA Tech/NC State. Not sure here, kind of threw a few schools out there. Again, he is a monster get for someone and again with the trend of what I have written VA Tech has been getting some really highly ranked kids of late, so this may be a thing? Also, NC State in the mix, I would think need weight plus proximity may make for a great match. Lucas Boe- Mizzou/Iowa State- Boe from LHP in Florida so he would be a great get and could help a pipeline with a program that just seems to churn out dude after dude. Interesting to note that LHP goes to all the majors and their kids are battle tested, they may have had the toughest schedule in the country. That being said ISU is on it in terms of recruiting and I can see them going hard after him, because he would be a great fit with Perry/Metcalf. And I do not know why but I just think Missouri as well. Of note though, many LHP kids go to Ivies and schools with high academics, if that is the case add Cornell, UVA, UNC, and Stanford in the mix. Dean Anderson- He is my son, no comment. Clinton Shepherd- Indiana/Nebraska/Purdue. Not sure on Indiana, not sure at all but again you would think they would throw the kitchen sink at him to get him to stay in state. He has tons of upside and wonder what he projects. I saw him at UWW U17 trials two years ago and he was massive for 132, wonder how big he gets, especially after a layoff from injury. You would think Purdue as well would be possible (see Indiana comment). I could also see him fitting in at Nebraska as he is solid in all positions and just a go getter. Sean Kenny- Lehigh/Va Tech/Rutgers. Another really good one close to Rutgers. Rutgers really making the push to be a top 8-10 team year after year at NCAA's and that only gets easier with locking down top Jersey talent. Would think Lehigh would be a fit as well because they are going to have a great season so that may help the process. Again, see VA tech. Note in Willie's first calls he talked about VA Tech going in big on a few guys and so maybe I thought he would be a guy because he is certainly good enough to warrant attention from everyone. Knopoka- NCST, Lehigh. No real feel here but with a kid from CT guessing Jack has an in for NC State. Also Lehigh (I know bullish on them) academics and high level wrestling would be a fit as well. Hayden Schwab- UNI. Jessie Grajeda- ASU/Cal Poly/Oregon State/Stanford. Bosco has sent a ton of kids to ASU and not sure if the Valencia to ASU pipeline is as open as it once was but I am guessing he would be a fit at a need weight for them. Valencia at Okie State may shake things up a bit but they are so loaded in there may be hard to get someone else in there. Oregon State would be a fit as it was noted earlier that Oregon State has landed quite a few elite CA prospects. Maybe throw Stanford in there as they do not have tons of need but Grajeda is a good one for sure. Perhaps Cal Poly could make a run here as well. Kikinou- UNC or Cornell. Poway sending come guys to UNC (Navida/Towson etc) has me think they have a shot in there and it seems the Poway kids do lean to schools with high academics and wrestling, so mix that with Koll who did spend time in CA at Stanford and is a master recruiter/CEO and I think you have UNC in the mix. Also, see Cornell as it seems this may be a fit for him. He is a Greco guy and Oregon State has had some guys in the Greco mix so maybe that works? IDK Gabe Logan- Michigan or Cornell. Michigan connection with dad who was an AA for them. As for Cornell, he is a Delbarton kid and obviously the Grey connection is a thing (see Perentin). Seemingly, Cornell is getting a boatload of guys and they all cannot start so wonder what happens here if kids start to think there will be a massive logjam. Brock Rothermel- Pitt/Ohio State. Pitt is close and have Roselli who is really really good at working with guys so maybe that is a fit. I say Ohio State because I can see them making a big push into PA, especially if they do not land Burnett. Seamus Regan- NCST- From SC, rumored somewhere he likes NCST which would seem to be a good proximity fit at least. Is at McCort so he will be all over the majors (events) and probably will get lots of attention from everyone. Maybe the connection with Iowa comes into play here and they can pick him up, but not sure thats a huge need for them. Gavin Mangano- Rutgers. Long Island kid who would be close to home in Piscataway, so maybe that is a thing. New York has seen a resurgence in the number of kids coming out of it (always been tough but down a little for a few years now seemingly stronger) and RU wanting to be a perennial top ten may see him as a huge pickup. He is a guy that is long so i wonder how big he can get over the next 2-3 years which makes me wonder wonder what he projects at, which could change all this hence my only listing one school. Jimmy Mastny- Illinois/Northern Iowa. Mastny is really really good and Illinois would do well to keep him at home. That would be huge for them as a program to land him as he is a really good big guy who started his youth as a smaller guy so he moves really well and is not a plodder. I also could see him being a guy who would fit in at UNI style wise, just a gritty dude that scraps and hand fights hard. *****Disclaimer, I have no real inside knowledge on any of this, but as noted before because I have been to a ton of events with Dean I have seen a lot of these kids and followed this class quite a bit from Junior High Rankings to now*** Just thought it may be good to get the ball rolling on this topic a little before 6/15.
    9 points
  8. I am going to go out on a limb and say that one person did not cause this entire sequence of events. The person quoted may be the face of the anti-Focus movement on campus, but no way is she the only reason. Use your noggins folks, don't go down the Minnow rabbit hole. Actually, let me correct myself. One person did cause this entire sequence of events: AJ Ferrari. Actions have consequences and they can last a very, very long time both positive and negative.
    9 points
  9. The United States is a Religious Freedom-focused country. Some choose to exercise that via christianity. But let’s not conflate a collection of individual choices with the structural intent of the country. I heard a story about this guy, he walked into a bagel shop, ordered an onion bagel with extra strawberry cream cheese. He sits down and starts yelling at all the customers who come in “This is an Onion Bagel and Strawberry Cream Cheese Shop!” while sitting in front of 30 racks of different bagels and 20 flavors of cream cheese. Some people really want to make it their business what sorts of bagels other people eat. But it never will be. Just let people eat their bagels in peace. Everyone is staring down a long work day and a crappy commute, the bagel just helps make it a bit better.
    9 points
  10. LOL...this is dumb. It's happening in female high school sports all over the country. Bioglogical boys competing against biological girls in sports and smashing records. I have two daughters in sports and watch it all the time....and I LOVE women's sports - if it is actually women's sports. Don't come on here and claim we hate womens' sports because we don't want biological men competing against our daughters and sharing locker rooms. That's just dumb. Who is actually doing the bullying when a biological male is competing against a athletically marginalized group in biological women?
    8 points
  11. 100% agree... this is such a non issue that's being blown up to create manufactured outrage... The amount of news coverage this gets by certain outlets in proportion to the amount of athletes this applies to is asinine. If those news outlets talked about school shootings or even rare diseases affecting people in proportion to this topic it would flood the airways 24/7. Transgender fuss is only happening with a certain subset of people intent on getting 'news' from a few specific outlets...
    8 points
  12. Anddddd this is why people don't say anything. Because people victim blame. It sounds like the said individual is a creep, did some things that violate teammates and women. Good for them for speaking up, regardless of timing.
    8 points
  13. 8 points
  14. Here's my two cents. I've softened on AJ. Not saying I'd want him on a team I root for, but I thought he conducted himself well enough last year that he deserves a second chance somewhere. Like everyone else, I watched him at NCAAs waiting for the time bomb to go off, but he handled his wins and loss just fine. Give credit where it's due. Minnow's a clown, but the UNC article does rub me the wrong way. Who is Madison Soltys, and why is she quote-worthy? It seems like the author is using her as a mouthpiece to basically say that the sexual assault charges are true, and that AJ's "camp" bullied her into dropping the charges. But no support is given beyond the accuser's say-so. This is where #metoo goes too far: The accuser deserves to be heard, but if she drops her charges -- no matter the stated reason for doing so -- it's unfair to hold those charges against the accused, who now has no way to prove his innocence. It's just too easy to lodge bogus charges, say you're dropping them because you were "bullied," and ruin someone's life as a result. I realize AJ may not be the best vehicle for this message, as his history doesn't exactly scream martyrdom, but the principle still applies. UNC withdrawing their offer rubs me the wrong way for the same reason. There's plenty of good reasons to take a pass on AJ on the front end, but UNC had plenty of time to do their due diligence and still said yes. To back out now smacks of caving to the post-article pressure, and now drags him through the mud unfairly. All of this said, it may work out for the best. UNC never struck me as a good fit for AJ. His personality screams Jersey Shore so for the life of me I don't understand why he isn't at Rutgers, where's he's just 20 mins from the NJRTC for tougher goes, or maybe Rider or one of the LI schools.
    8 points
  15. Ah yes, Pat, it's the girlfriend of a THWC member, who happens to vote for one political party, that is the problem here. It's definitely not the fault of the person who was attempting to wrestle for (counts on fingers) his fourth different school. Truth be told, I'm amazed that that woman had the stones to put that out there. Good on her.
    8 points
  16. @Interviewed_at_Weehawken I blame you for bringing Jimmy over to the International forum that is usually a safe haven for the more intelligent crowd. You started a Jimmy style thread and desecrated a hallowed institution
    7 points
  17. He's a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude
    7 points
  18. RBY deserves a spot for his contribution to the sport. He taught us all that a person can win with one arm tied behind their back.
    7 points
  19. You asked a general question and got a general question...and now use a very specific examples of a very rare syndrome. Of course there are going to be very, very limited syndromes and other things that come up in the discussion. Do you think that redefines the entire system of what a female or male is? So let's get right to the heart of it, what is your definition of male and female and do you support biological males with a penis with xy chromosomes competing against girls born with a vagina and xx chromosomes?
    7 points
  20. Last year's 2nd place gets 1st place this year after 1st place guy graduates. How bold of you
    7 points
  21. If more Jesus means more hookers then I think a lot of people could get behind that.
    7 points
  22. Happy Father's Day! This is what my son got me (he's 11)- it's awesome! A little book with 50 pages of things. Page 3 on the list below! How cool is that!!!
    6 points
  23. Iowa State will find a way to lose this handily. On paper, they should have a very good chance to win. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    6 points
  24. Take inspiration from Banana Baseball. It is the most fun baseball event I've attended, and some of their rules should be merged to the MLB. Banana Wrestling The match can consist of five 72 second periods. The winner is chosen based on most periods won rather than the total points scored. This makes it so one bad period doesn't cost the match. A tech or pin wins the period, not the match. Intentional mat fleeing results in the immediate loss of the period. Stepping out of bounds twice in a match results in the passive wrestler wearing a "COWARD" bandana for the match remainder. During the activity clock period, the passive wrestler scores points as normal. The aggressor has a Golden scoring opportunity where all points are doubled. A wrestler put on the activity clock two times in the match is immediately disqualified. The match is over when a wrestler reaches wins 3 periods, after 5 periods are completed, or when a wrestler is disqualified. More can be discussed here with regards to bonus for winning a period by pin or five+ points. Add some humorous penalties for passivity or lost challenges. You win the tiebreaker by escaping the banana splits... Things that engage the crowd... It hurts me to predict that standard wrestling will not bring the revenue to keep RAF going. This has been tried before... If following the International Freestyle rules, I have one request. Consistently enforce the passivity rule by always calling passivity on the truly passive wrestler, regardless of how many times it occurs within a period or match. Eliminate the practice where the non-passive wrestler is penalized for passivity in the first period, followed by the passive wrestler being penalized in the second period.
    6 points
  25. Ben Askren once called me a wimp on FRL. I hope he can do it again.
    6 points
  26. False, and shows you are out of touch. But keep saying the same thing over and over again if it helps you feel better. Supporting this lunacy is the only "sudden" thing that has happened over the past few years. Biological men should not be competing with women in sports. This isn't difficult. Stop being anti-woman, and do better,
    6 points
  27. This is sad and does bring up that we are all mortal and our time can come at anytime, no matter how fit, strong, or healthy we are. Very sad news for Ben's family and Ben. I hope he recovers. I had pneumonia for 2 months last year and the medicines did not work until the third and most extreme type. It just kept spreading. A few days after I got a shot in the butt of the last medicine I felt well enough to go outside and walk, and I still remember being amazed how how it felt to get a full lung of air. I didn't recognize I had much of a problem in that way, but it was incredible. It was a long 2 months let me tell you. I got the pneumonia shot a few months after that. I don't need that again. Best wishes for Ben and his family. mspart
    6 points
  28. Born with a penis for a boy with XY chromosomes.... Born with vagina for girls with XX chromosomes. Not difficult. 8th grade science.
    6 points
  29. Does she get the equivalent of a VIP credential for being a participant? I'd get tech'd twice in under a minute for a lanyard that lets me roam around matside for the rest of the tournament....probably wouldn't cut weight though, need to be at full strength
    6 points
  30. This match will never happen Bassett career timeline: 2025-26 senior HS 2026-27 redshirt 2027-28 OLY redshirt 2028-29 RSfrosh 2029-30 RSsoph 2030-31 medical redshirt 2031-32 OLY redshirt 2032-33 RSjunior 2033-34 global nuclear war - eligibility frozen for all active athletes 2034-35 RSSenior1 (gets one additional year due to nuclear war the previous year) 2035-36 OLY redshirt 2036-37 RSsenior2 Ends college at the ripe old age of 49, at 197lbs, and 6.9 million dollars richer. He will never hit Stanich, Blaze, Forrest or any of his other cohorts.
    6 points
  31. As the person who said Dean hamiti national champ in last years iteration of this I would like to go 2 for 2 with Jordan Williams 149 national champion.
    6 points
  32. Made a post in another thread and made me want to check something. Woods was outscored 34-6 in second periods between the open and trials. On the other hand, he outscored his opponents between those two events 61-3 in the first. We may have our very own American Musuakaev.
    6 points
  33. every missed test was after he retired (the OLY Trials) so who gives a rip? he was tested plenty, and never popped, during his medal run.
    6 points
  34. The bigger issue is.......there shouldn't be any to find.
    6 points
  35. Oh God! you're not going to beat 39 pages
    6 points
  36. No. I just want him to tell me about wrestling when interviewed. Changes in training. Influences of coaches, family and traiming partners. Maybe talk about nutrition and/or strength and conditioning. Wrestling stuff. Mindset is fine and you can certainly thank God or praise him if that is the driving force brhind your mindset, but share the other stuff too. This isn't strictly a Snyder criticism. its horrendous to listen to. Its an echo chamber. I won't say its virtue signaling because im not sure it is, but it certainly isn't entertaining and a lot of work and sacrifice go into succeeding at the highest levels. Some fans want to hear about that instead of religion.
    6 points
  37. Officials have to make real engage there in my opinion he circled for the last 70 seconds.
    5 points
  38. What do you reckon Snyder doing to celebrate tonight?
    5 points
  39. Exactly the same as UWW Freestyle. Sorry, but why do I want to see the best in the US wrestling another different style. If they are doing a different style than what the best in the world does it is a gimmick.
    5 points
  40. "To my Final X competitor, @glaudealex you got this and I’ll be cheering for you at worlds!"
    5 points
  41. He is thinking about taking a shot to go somewhere else, but he will probably wait until it's too late
    5 points
  42. You actually subjected yourself to an hour and a half of these two pumping each others tires? I saw this on my youtube feed and thought, "that has to be the most insufferable podcast ever recorded."
    5 points
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