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Back from my trip to Stillwater this weekend. Below is my take aways from each weight class, and I'm sure others will have a difference of opinion which is fine as we all are entitled to our own thoughts and views. That's what makes this forum fun as we all chime and chat about the sport that we all love. 125: Spratley- Seems to have an extra gear so far, just looks extremely focused. For this really deep weight, I don't see him being an easy out for anyone. I'm sure he will have some defeats this year but I also think he could be a contender come March. 133: Hughes/Witcraft- Hughes is the better of the two, but I worry about him being able to maintain the weight cut throughout the year. He's looked good in his matches but he does have the appearance of cutting a lot of weight! Witcraft hasn't looked bad in his matches either. So we will see as neither of them have had to face any of the top tier guys yet. 141: Jamison- Just seems to be a little off, maybe nursing a minor injury or something. He's just seems to be hanging around and then doing just enough to win at the end. 149: Young- (This one's my headscratcher). He lost both matches this weekend that I feel he could have won. He's been the aggressor and gets in deep on a high crotch or single but get a little sloppy and can't finish or gets taken down when he's the one in better position to score. I'm sure DT will work with him on this and he'll improve as the year go on. 157: Teague Travis/Cutter Sheets- Travis is the starter, but Sheets gets some valuable freshman experience this weekend. He wrestled hard in his lose on Friday night and picked up a MD on Sunday. 165: Amine- Had a MD on Friday night but lost in OT Sunday. Probably would have won on Sunday if he was more aggressive on his feet. He got hit with stalling in the first period for backing up. He looked solid on top and bottom but just a little more action when neutral and he would have been fine. 174: Hamiti- Looked great! Man he reminds me a lot of John Smith. Can pretty much ankle pick whenever he wants. I wouldn't count him out for making the finals in March. 184: Plott- Maybe a little sluggish on Friday but returned to the Plott we all know on Sunday. I feel like DT favors him a bit, but I can see why...he's always working and constantly looking over at the corner and listening to instructions. "The perfect student". 197: Surber- My pick for OSU wrestler of the week! He has impressed me the most in this early stage of the year. He has been that guy in the past that hangs around 12th to 20th in the rankings. This Surber is wrestling like a man on a mission. Definitely has a chance to AA if he keeps this pace. HWT: Wyatt Hendrickson- It sure is refreshing to watch a heavy weight match with his action. Feels like you are watching an extra 125lb match. Maybe the days of watching 2 big dudes leaning on each other for 3 periods is over. NOTES: Anyway, that's my 2 cents on attending OK State duals this weekend. Guys, just remember these are just my observations and point of views. If you saw it differently, I would love to read your takes as well. Hope you all have a great Thanksgiving!

Don't sell yourself short. A triple in a beer league is a lifelong accomplishment.

I tore a hammy in beer league softball trying to stretch a double to a triple at age 40, and was on the shelf for 6 months. Teemer may be in slightly better shape than I was though.

you have to stop trying to steer topics into PSU worship. That battle is over.

Second semester the ILLINI have an Indian wrestler coming in to man the 125 spot: Desi Jelgado.

165 Scoles24 v Fea eo1 Scoles 4-3 eo2 Scoles 11-5 ... 1pt penalty hard crossface? blood time ... be nice Scoles! final tf 24-8 Team 12-11

149 Webster10 v McNeil6 eo1 0-0 eo2 Webster 1-0 ... lots of good action hand fighting for a 2 escape match eo3 1-1 final McNeil 8-1 but review Webster looked like td then McN reversed to his back Confirmed Team 7-8

it's not an effing reward. the charges were a witch hunt the entire time. this isn't 'justice'; it's the end of lawfare

To the winner go the spoils.

One thing I wanted to add if there was any truth to what Mineo said about the wrestle off. We now have two data points where Josh Barr in a short period fo time was able to make some pretty crazy adjustments. The Sinclair matches and now this. If that were all to be true I would not be betting against Barr when he gets a second crack against guys.

I heard a disgruntled investor shot them down...

Optimal lineup for Iowa, if they can swing it (w/o Teemer and Brands) Caliendo 157 Kennedy 165 Arnold 174 Ferrari 184

Fellas. She is 100% Smokin.

I appreciate the context. That's a fine source.

The Cy Hawk dual was eventful this weekend. At 157 Jaocri Teemer sustained what looked like an injury serious enough to keep him out of action for months, if not the season, Patrick Kennedy replaced Nelson Brands at 174 and ran roughshod over an old teammate, and Angelo Ferrari used a competition date at 184. With Teemer out, and Nelson Brands and Gabe Arnold sitting (for at least one match), what does the Iowa lineup look like going forward? 157 - Wrestlestat has only one back up listed at 157 (Isaiah Fenton), but they have multiple at 149 (Caleb Rathjen and Victor Voinovich being the highest ranked). Do they bump a backup up a weight? Do they try to survive with Fenton and hope Teemer makes it back? Do they solve logjams at higher weights by having guys cut (if they even can)? 174 - Speaking of higher weights. While Brands was coming off a techfall of his own, Kennedy looked very good teching Aidan Riggins. In the past Gabe Arnold was a 174 who his father said had to bust his ass to get bigger for this year. Does Caliendo attempt a drop to 157, Kennedy to 165, and Arnold to 174? Seems unlikely, but maybe? 184 - Does the Teemer injury actually make it more likely that they pull Ferrari's redshirt and go with the everyone cut weight strategy? I assume the decision to wrestle Ferrari at 184 instead of Arnold was made prior to the Teemer injury, so probably one had nothing to do with the other over the weekend, but maybe it will going forward. That is a lot of lineup flexibility for Iowa. How do you think they use it?

Keuter is a classic heavy tweener, he has to push calories because being 215 is a liability at HWT. Tervel gave a great interview about this back in the day, he was a 220-30 tweener kind guy and really put on some mass after missing out on the olympics in '08. It immediately helped, but was quite onerous for him. Powerlifters, Strongmen etc also give major insight into what this is like. If you're REALLY putting in the time to be hwt competitive, eating is a full time job, and becomes pretty unpleasant.

No kidding. I had 3/4 of a burrito two hours ago and I feel like a baby gorilla lol if you even blew a whistle… in a fashion that sounded like wrestling practice……. Do that near me i could die. Lol.

Sort of why I asked if anyone on the board had experience or had done it. Other than le Duke of course…… on a 8 hour sleep 16 hour awake schedule that’s every two and a half hours. I had a hard time practicing on a full stomach…. With that said there is at least a 2 hour practice in the afternoon and I bet cardio and or drilling once or twice a day. At least in d3 it was like that…. I imagine they train much harder in d1 too. that means your eating semi substantial meals on or near a lot of those practice/workout times. I would feel bloated …. Although I’m not used to eating that healthy that …. Not to mention academics is somewhere in there. Classes etc.

Nothing seems hard to Le Duke, he's a PSU fan...

197 Braunagel10 v Lautt eo1 B2 5-0 B2 body lock goes to his back danger of pin but rolls thru to pick up 2bp eo2 8-2 with rt ... official review look at possible td Lautt ... nope final md 13-3 Team 21-14

He’s going to have to evict a lot more single moms to find a 2nd semester 157 if Teemer isn’t expect back. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

174 Braunagel16 v O'Boyle B1 6-1 first min eo1 B1 9-2 with rt eo2 16-3 final tf 20-3 Team 17-11

157 Kraisser20 v Santiago27 eo1 Santiago 6-1 eo2 6-2 with rt final 10-3 Team 7-11

141 Pucino15 v Scott eo1 0-0 eo2 Scott 1-0 eo3 1-1 final Pucino 4-1 Team 7-5

There is a potential joke here about Slumlord Bob taking Teemer out back to "collect"

133 Byrd2 v Oakley15 eo1 0-0 ... btw NC with pretty cool two piece eo2 Byrd 1-0 ... Byrd 7pt throw Final 9-19 Team 4-5

125 Riley v Moore eo1 Moore 6-2 eo2 Moore 10-2 final tf 20-5 Team 0-5

I think you are not telling the whole story here. mspart

Its game time!

Cool as the other side of the pillow...

ftfyn

Stevenson, Messenbrink and Finx were all way over hyped coming out of high school.

Would he beat Messenbrink though?

wrestlestat rankings came out and Gable Steveson dropped to fifth behind Kerkvliet, Hendricksen, Bastida, and Feldman. His two tech falls apparently cost him over 100 Elo points.

This was the offseason talk before they brought in Teemer. Have to imagine the pull would be too big for Caliendo or else they would not have ever brought Teemer in.

I agree with this and I think Caliendo would win 157

Elon looking to buy MSNBC maybe. Folks at MSNBC are very worried that they can no longer lie for a living. What a sweet gig they have. mspart

IF Facundo is the odd-man-out at PSU... how about him at 165lbs for Michigan? Has he graduated yet?

Winning second in the big 10 and ncaas. Is that what you want to hear you milquetoast, sycophant, femboy cuck? Yes we know everyone is competing for second, Carl’s not going to shag you mate

I like the courage from Ghadiali if it was his call

Yes, 2011,was there also and the 500.00 was for ticket, food and booze. Unbelievable how crazy they have gotten. My first suite in 04 $175.00, ticket only.

Listening to her speak hurts.

thanks for clarifying which guys you were referring to

100% or 83%

OU the Pride of Athens, OH...

Thank God...

Trump first asked Vak but he declined for unknown reasons.

yeah. even i don't like this one lol