Knox

[Nak21]

1 minute ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

huh? There are a number of falsehoods in your post and you are clearly overly sensitive.

Well then name them if there’s a number of falsehoods…

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

1 minute ago, Nak21 said:

Well then name them if there’s a number of falsehoods…

You don't even know which lies you're promulgating?

#sad

And why was that directed at me?  Some weird stuff, bro.

[Nak21]

2 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

You don't even know which lies you're promulgating?

#sad

And why was that directed at me?  Some weird stuff, bro.

You’re confused why I responded to something you said? When you interjected yourself into the conversation?

#SuperSad

Weird stuff “bro”.

You don’t wear a track suit by any chance do you??

And still waiting for a falsehood to be named. Probably are some in there, but haven’t heard one yet.

Edited December 23, 2025 by Nak21

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

3 minutes ago, Nak21 said:

You’re confused why I responded to something you said? When you interjected yourself into the conversation?

#SuperSad

Weird stuff “bro”.

You don’t wear a track suit by any chance do you??

And still waiting for a falsehood to be named. Probably are some in there, but haven’t heard one yet.

I am literally wearing a velour tracksuit with a picture of a reindeer with a santa hat on.

[Nak21]

3 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

I am literally wearing a velour tracksuit with a picture of a reindeer with a santa hat on.

Now THAT checks out!! +1

[scourge165]

14 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said:

I don't think thats a....divergent conclusion from mine. Emphasizing basics, position etc can be paralyzing. Theres so many ways to scores points in a wrestling match, being dogmatic or narrow minded about how do it certainly has a price. 

Not really. The higher you go, the most you rely on the basics. 

Brooks-Basics. Hand fighting, positioning, movement, Hi-C, Double, outside of head inside single. 
Starocci=Same thing.

David Taylor, Kyle Dake, Snyder, Burroughs, Sadulaez, they're not going out there scoring with this wide range of moves. It's all the basics. Perfected over thousands and thousands of hours, tens of thousands of hours. Working on slight variations from the basics. Perfecting the finishes on the singles or doubles.

Spencer Lee, same thing. Heavy hands. Every once in a while a guy comes along like Bo Nickal who veers a bit outside the basics, but he was still beaten and never won a medal on the world team. 

"The Basics" have changed slightly since I wrestled with more scrambling and trying to pass the legs and the scrambling now when someone gets in on a shot and they beat your hips and you need to scramble, but those are just part of the basics you have to do and know now. Levi Haines certainly stuck to the basics. 

Most Wrestlers, the higher they go, the most basic their Wrestling is. 

[11986]

11 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

Not really. The higher you go, the most you rely on the basics. 

Brooks-Basics. Hand fighting, positioning, movement, Hi-C, Double, outside of head inside single. 
Starocci=Same thing.

David Taylor, Kyle Dake, Snyder, Burroughs, Sadulaez, they're not going out there scoring with this wide range of moves. It's all the basics. Perfected over thousands and thousands of hours, tens of thousands of hours. Working on slight variations from the basics. Perfecting the finishes on the singles or doubles.

Spencer Lee, same thing. Heavy hands. Every once in a while a guy comes along like Bo Nickal who veers a bit outside the basics, but he was still beaten and never won a medal on the world team. 

"The Basics" have changed slightly since I wrestled with more scrambling and trying to pass the legs and the scrambling now when someone gets in on a shot and they beat your hips and you need to scramble, but those are just part of the basics you have to do and know now. Levi Haines certainly stuck to the basics. 

Most Wrestlers, the higher they go, the most basic their Wrestling is. 

random - when I was (much) younger I used to think the most technical guys, the 'technicians' were the guys who hit moves that not many other guys did, like they knew all the tricks. took me a while to grasp that the truly elite technical guys aren't necessarily flashy like that but are the ones who master the basics and every position, angle, hand placement, head placement, weight distribution, etc. is perfect. 

[Caveira]

1 hour ago, Nak21 said:

Don’t worry it’s working its way thru the system and he’ll be punished accordingly per PA law. And he’s currently getting a 1yr time out from wrestling. Just like Brands did when they had their little boys will be boys moment in HS.

Sounds like you have a sore spot

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

14 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Sounds like you have a sore spot

Bob Dole

[BigRedFan]

*Probably* back on topic.  Dylan Palacio gives some perspective that might explain things.

 

 

[Hammerlock3]

4 hours ago, scourge165 said:

Not really. The higher you go, the most you rely on the basics. 

Brooks-Basics. Hand fighting, positioning, movement, Hi-C, Double, outside of head inside single. 
Starocci=Same thing.

David Taylor, Kyle Dake, Snyder, Burroughs, Sadulaez, they're not going out there scoring with this wide range of moves. It's all the basics. Perfected over thousands and thousands of hours, tens of thousands of hours. Working on slight variations from the basics. Perfecting the finishes on the singles or doubles.

Spencer Lee, same thing. Heavy hands. Every once in a while a guy comes along like Bo Nickal who veers a bit outside the basics, but he was still beaten and never won a medal on the world team. 

"The Basics" have changed slightly since I wrestled with more scrambling and trying to pass the legs and the scrambling now when someone gets in on a shot and they beat your hips and you need to scramble, but those are just part of the basics you have to do and know now. Levi Haines certainly stuck to the basics. 

Most Wrestlers, the higher they go, the most basic their Wrestling is. 

It must be fun interpreting every post anyway you want.

[HoosierWrestlingFan]

So, does anyone know what schools Knox is considering or have been in contact with him?

[BloodRound]

11 minutes ago, HoosierWrestlingFan said:

So, does anyone know what schools Knox is considering or have been in contact with him?

Rutgers forums are saying Okie State and Rutgers made contact.

[scourge165]

On 12/23/2025 at 12:54 PM, Hammerlock3 said:

It must be fun interpreting every post anyway you want.

A blast.

On 12/23/2025 at 8:42 AM, scourge165 said:

I don't think thats a....divergent conclusion from mine. Emphasizing basics, position etc can be paralyzing.

Yup. I really interpreted that so very differently from how you worded it!

LOL... what are you talking about?

 

On 12/23/2025 at 8:57 AM, 11986 said:

random - when I was (much) younger I used to think the most technical guys, the 'technicians' were the guys who hit moves that not many other guys did, like they knew all the tricks. took me a while to grasp that the truly elite technical guys aren't necessarily flashy like that but are the ones who master the basics and every position, angle, hand placement, head placement, weight distribution, etc. is perfect. 

I see see an occasional clip of a headlock on Facebook or somewhere and I see these kids club Dad coaches talking about how "that won't work vs the top kids," as though... that's why coaches try and discourage the JHS Head throw superstar from going for it all the time. 

Dake and Taylor had one of their workouts taped. I don't remember why they were doing it or what the project was, but they were playing around with different ways to score on a single, counters to counters, but it was ALL off just the basics. The few shots you should learn. 

You learn a couple shots and you'll spend the rest of your career working on perfecting those vs Football where you learn a couple plays and you'll spend the rest of your career learning more and more complex schemes or pretty much any other sport. Maybe boxing is similar. You learn some combos and then spend your whole life perfecting them and working on movement and blocking?

[NM1965]

On 12/23/2025 at 7:05 AM, Nak21 said:

Isn’t Iowa’s current coach a sex offender? Is he registered? How do they work it out for away meets and tournaments?? Does he have to notify local police when he’s in town to coach??

 

https://case-law.vlex.com/vid/brands-v-sheldon-community-892105121#:~:text=Likewise%2C the Eighth Amendment claim must be,the Supreme Court held in Ingraham v.

Maybe I'm the only guy who actually read that document! So what ultimately happened, was he held out of state his Sr year? We know he went on to glory at Iowa. 

[MPhillips]

1 hour ago, NM1965 said:

Maybe I'm the only guy who actually read that document! So what ultimately happened, was he held out of state his Sr year? We know he went on to glory at Iowa. 

You may have been up until now. 

Iowa wrestling Hall of fame has him winning a state championship as a senior in 86.

https://www.iowawrestlinghalloffame.com/inductee/terry-brands-2#:~:text=Tom Brands%2C like his twin,the 1995 Pan American Games.

The doc. we've seen is from 1987...

 

[NM1965]

6 hours ago, MPhillips said:

You may have been up until now. 

Iowa wrestling Hall of fame has him winning a state championship as a senior in 86.

https://www.iowawrestlinghalloffame.com/inductee/terry-brands-2#:~:text=Tom Brands%2C like his twin,the 1995 Pan American Games.

The doc. we've seen is from 1987...

 

Understandable. For the academic year, 1986, Brands won the state title. But the state title for 1986 wasn't decided until the Iowa state tournament in, if I'm guessing correctly, March 1987 (or maybe February). If you read the document you see that part of it is related to Brands seeking to be able to wrestle at the state tournament. 

Edited December 31, 2025 by NM1965

[MPhillips]

11 minutes ago, NM1965 said:

Understandable. For the academic year, 1986, Brands won the state title. But the state title for 1986 wasn't decided until the Iowa state tournament in, if I'm guessing correctly, March 1987 (or maybe February). If you read the document you see that part of it is related to Brands seeking to be able to wrestle at the state tournament. 

Who uses academic year? Going by that, he graduated in 86 too. 

How do you win the 86 title in 87? Did Antrell Taylor win a title in 24? 

 

And...we still don't... @Wrestleknownothing.

[NM1965]

Just now, MPhillips said:

Who uses academic year? Going by that, he graduated in 86 too. 

How do you win the 86 title in 87? Did Antrell Taylor win a title in 24? 

 

And...we still don't... @Wrestleknownothing.

Hmmmm. You are right. WTF was I thinking? 

[MPhillips]

1 minute ago, NM1965 said:

Hmmmm. You are right. WTF was I thinking? 

 

You had Forest (not Gump) runnin' through your mind...

[StanfordTree133]

On 12/18/2025 at 8:38 PM, gimpeltf said:

I helped run some of the camp tournies. So if you remember a barefoot guy with a frisbee running around..

The GOAT!!!!!!! Remember you at Lehigh camp too

[StanfordTree133]

 

[gimpeltf]

9 minutes ago, StanfordTree133 said:

The GOAT!!!!!!! Remember you at Lehigh camp too

[WrestlingRash]

On 12/23/2025 at 5:46 AM, Caveira said:

Isn’t there some kid on the psu team who last year got super drunk.  Acted a fool… was fighting with the folks at the house he was at.   Refused to leave said house.   and while getting apprehended resisted arrest and ran away only to get caught.   Wonder if we will ever know this “kids” name 

Incident Details

• The Confrontation: Police were called to the Tau Kappa Epsilon house on East Prospect Avenue after the 20-year-old All-American refused to leave the property.
• The Escape Attempt:When questioned by police, Davis allegedly used a friend as a shield before attempting to flee on foot.
• The Struggle: After being tackled, Davis reportedly "wrestled" with an officer, leading to the destruction of police equipment, including a wristwatch, a radio earpiece, and a body camera.
• Intoxication Levels: A breath test and medical records later revealed a blood alcohol content (BAC) of 0.225%, nearly three times the legal driving limit. He was eventually transported to a hospital for a suspected alcohol overdose. 

 

Legal Status and Consequences

• Charges: Davis faced multiple charges, including resisting arrest, evading arrest, criminal trespass, underage drinking, and public drunkenness.

sounds like a fun night out. stop being a snitch and slandering kids. 

[Caveira]

Just now, WrestlingRash said:

sounds like a fun night out. stop being a snitch and slandering kids. 

Resisting arrest is a fun night?  Also not being able to get an escape on a police officer may be embarrassing.  Video showed he tried.