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agree B12 is clearly 2nd best conference. I also feel like if the IVY had not split from EIWA, then EIWA might be right there for 3rd.

added trivia....at UNC TJ was teammates with the late Ty Moore, who had pinned him in under a minute at the Dapper Dan wrestling classic after their senior years in HS. If Fried could have wrestled that year I don't think Lincoln Mac wins NCAAs....or maybe Iowa would not have even had him wrestle as a true freshman?

Stanich just tuned up #8 Consiglio from Stanford, so he's in good form already. I would not be shocked at all if he beats Bassett, and not just because Bassett is coming off the freestyle grind and travel. Stanich is very very good.

I can't think of a year where men's freestyle exceeded this medal count since the 1984 Olympics, which were of course boycotted by the Soviet bloc. Maybe I'm forgetting something though. For you youngsters, in 1984 w/o the Soviet bloc, the USA won 7 golds and 2 silvers.

agreed he elevated the program over where they were with Lenny Bernstein and before him George Edwards. but results have dropped off recently. I'm not anti-Garland, just bringing up the question per topic in whether a guy like that 'should' be on the hot seat. If he was the basketball or football coach, he probably would be.

I'm guessing there are a lot of guys working out that hard prior to making weight right before they weigh-in and then wrestling just fine in their college dual match soon after.

should I guy like Steve Garland at UVA be on the hot seat? Getting left in the dust by in state rival Virginia Tech, an afterthought overall in the ACC, etc. 20 years at the helm, better days are in the rear view, maybe time to hand off to Paulson. other vantage - UVA admin and fan base overall doesn't care about wrestling. long as the team stays out of trouble, has some NCAA qualifiers, kids graduate, etc. he's probably fine until he decides to retire. also maybe I'm in the dark and there already is a known transition timeline here

DJ McGee George Mason (wrestlestat #16 at 157).

the wrestling gods are fickle - the fact that Rosholt has 3 and Jon Trenge has zero....funny how it plays out....

Ralph Everett and Rashad Evans at 2003 NCAA tournament putting two Ls on defending champ Greg Jones in the only NCAAs he didn't win the title. Both lost in blood round that year.

PSU 125 Kuhn getting out to early lead over NATO in PSU/tOSU dual in 2018. Threw him iirc early. ‘Held on’ to only lose by major. Ended up being huge in that dual W for PSU. Think that was only match Kuhn ever wrestled for them.

don't know where this fits in your topic, and not sure if this is still that prevalent, but a lot of top tier guys hate to lose more than they love to win.

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Fix was also a 5x AA

yep

Cael also had a one pointer with Vertus Jones. 6-5 and agreed on everything about Hahn

so was your least favorite team Iowa or Oklahoma?

I'm forgetting the details...how close was he to making it 158-1? For some reason I remember Vertus Jones being closest to giving Cael an L, not Cormier (and not the NCAA finals match for Jones, but another time they wrestled).

for consideration - Mike Mann Iowa State. 4x AA. 2x finalist. Lost by 3-3, 2-2 criteria as a junior in finals and 4-3 in finals as a senior. His senior loss was to Ed Banach who was winning his 3rd title. Mann beat Banach 3 times that year prior to the NCAA tournament.

he's in my top few for best to never make a final discussions

not so much into hating on any teams at this stage of my fandom, just appreciate great wrestling (not to say I don't have rooting interests...). but used to really dislike Oklahoma State, guess I drank the Gable Kool-Aid like a lot of fans in the 80s and 90s. but Johnny Thompson was and is one of my favorite wrestlers from the early 2000s.

Gazzoni, Churella, Metzger

reminds me of that notorious Maryland fan who used to yell "Headlock Sheptock" not sure Jimmy S was even known for that move but ok

Gene Mills half from the knees