Ben Askren?

[Fletcher]

5 hours ago, scourge165 said:

I do love the way he brings kids along in the sport. He's not out there trying to get 2nd graders to win National Titles. That's why you have a lot of kids who aren't peaking until they are later in HS or College.

I don't think he even lets his wrestlers compete until like 4th grade or something? Kind of a core principle that wrestling has to start out as something that's fun.

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

Funky is amazing.  T+P and wishing him a speedy recovery so he can get back to ragging on Iowa ASAP.

[GimJustafan]

39 minutes ago, Fletcher said:

I don't think he even lets his wrestlers compete until like 4th grade or something? Kind of a core principle that wrestling has to start out as something that's fun.

remember when youth sports were supposed to be fun / church leagues / rec ball 

now everyone thinks my kids getting a scholarship because he won the U6 mothball round robin at 35 lbs 

[red viking]

44 minutes ago, Fletcher said:

I don't think he even lets his wrestlers compete until like 4th grade or something? Kind of a core principle that wrestling has to start out as something that's fun.

Correct. He just tries to get and keep them interested and having fun early on. Intensity of competition very slowly ramps up after a while. 

[wrestlingguy]

18 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said:

more prevalent than what....

It seems like there are higher cases of Staph/MRSA once hospitalized. My wife's grandma went into the hospital healthy for a routine procedure and contracted  Staph and died.

[scourge165]

3 hours ago, Fletcher said:

I don't think he even lets his wrestlers compete until like 4th grade or something? Kind of a core principle that wrestling has to start out as something that's fun.

That's what he believes. It's more that he advises to the parents that they don't focus on results until you're in 5th and 6th grade and you don't Wrestle many tournaments.

And just to reiterate, this is ALL me relaying what people have said or what he's said online. I have some nephews that have gone to AWA for camps or Wrestlers that went there. 

Now personally, I would have hated that. Wrestling was only fun when I was...Wrestling. Practice was really never fun(unless we were Wrestling) and I hated drilling. Part of that is because I had two kids shat themselves during practice...and often had to Wrestle the HWTs because I was tall and skinny(I have rectified one of those two).

-That...I hope is more of a problem unique to me and he finds a way to keep practices more fun than ours were. 

 

I think it's mainly the mental aspect(I may be wrong)...from what I've gleaned. If you're a normal, well adjusted adult, it's probably fine to start earlier(and he's not stopping kids, he just doesn't take kids to tournaments at that age). Sadly, kids Wrestling tournaments are like a bunch of psychos betting on dog fights all jockeying to get closer to the action and screaming instructions at their kids...

 

 

Edited June 10 by scourge165

[AnklePicker]

4 hours ago, wrestlingguy said:

It seems like there are higher cases of Staph/MRSA once hospitalized. My wife's grandma went into the hospital healthy for a routine procedure and contracted  Staph and died.

Hospital infections kill more people than car accidents and breast cancer combined.  

[wrestlingguy]

23 minutes ago, AnklePicker said:

Hospital infections kill more people than car accidents and breast cancer combined.  

That's alarming. Now I get why people hate hospitals more than ever before.

[wrestlingguy]

2 hours ago, scourge165 said:

 Sadly, kids Wrestling tournaments are like a bunch of psychos betting on dog fights all jockeying to get closer to the action and screaming instructions at their kids...

 

 

I have been to more than one kid's tournament that resembles what you would see at a biker bar. Your analogy made me laugh because it's so true.

[ionel]

41 minutes ago, AnklePicker said:

Hospital infections kill more people than car accidents and breast cancer combined.  

There's a reason you never want to stay in a hospital over night. 

[BruceyB]

2 hours ago, scourge165 said:

Now personally, I would have hated that. Wrestling was only fun when I was...Wrestling. Practice was really never fun(unless we were Wrestling) and I hated drilling.

From what I've gleaned, I believe he encourages parents to have their kids just wrestle a normal kids league wrestling season, and not to spend time and money taking them to things like Tulsa, Reno, or other national tournaments where the winning kids are mostly coming from more grind'em young and start winning as soon as possible type clubs. For the AWA model, they don't train their kids at a young age in a way that would make them competitive on the national level. It's not that the younger kids don't compete, they just aren't wrestling 100 matches a year like some.

Not that that is relevant to Ben's health. I keep checking here hoping to hear some promising news. Hopefully good news comes soon.

[flyingcement]

33 minutes ago, ionel said:

There's a reason you never want to stay in a hospital over night. 

I've had more overnight stays in hospitals than I ever intended. It started early—with a spinal tap as an infant, the kind of thing I obviously don't remember but which still echoes in family stories. As a teenager, things got far more visceral. I was ejected from a car in an accident that could have ended everything. Not long after that, I was electrocuted—another brush with death, another long night under fluorescent lights and beeping machines.

Then, in my 20s, I spent nights battling dengue fever—a different kind of war, this time fought with IVs, fever dreams, and the slow clock of recovery.

Each visit left more than just physical scars. They left marks on how I see fragility, survival, and resilience. I don't romanticize these experiences, but I also don't ignore them. They remind me that I'm still here—for reasons I don’t always understand.

[WrestleFan12]

7 hours ago, wrestlingguy said:

It seems like there are higher cases of Staph/MRSA once hospitalized. My wife's grandma went into the hospital healthy for a routine procedure and contracted  Staph and died.

Similar situation with my dad. He went into the hospital for shoulder surgery, and never came home. He contracted a C. Diff infection during his hospital stay and died about a month after the operation.

[Hammerlock3]

8 hours ago, wrestlingguy said:

It seems like there are higher cases of Staph/MRSA once hospitalized. My wife's grandma went into the hospital healthy for a routine procedure and contracted  Staph and died.

I was unaware, and sorry about your wife's grandmother of course, i wouldn't comment everytime someone dies but that seems quite senseless and difficult.

[wrestle87]

Anybody know anything about super secret updates on how Askren’s doing?

[scourge165]

3 hours ago, BruceyB said:

From what I've gleaned, I believe he encourages parents to have their kids just wrestle a normal kids league wrestling season, and not to spend time and money taking them to things like Tulsa, Reno, or other national tournaments where the winning kids are mostly coming from more grind'em young and start winning as soon as possible type clubs. For the AWA model, they don't train their kids at a young age in a way that would make them competitive on the national level. It's not that the younger kids don't compete, they just aren't wrestling 100 matches a year like some.

Not that that is relevant to Ben's health. I keep checking here hoping to hear some promising news. Hopefully good news comes soon.

No, it's not... I feel a little embarrassed side tracking it. I know how serious it is, I just can't imagine he's not alright. 

[scourge165]

10 minutes ago, wrestle87 said:

Anybody know anything about super secret updates on how Askren’s doing?

I'd guess the next time you hear it'll be Amy or maybe Max, someone just commenting that he's awake and talkin and doing better... but the fact that it's going on makes it a little more disconcerting. 

[Not creative name]

4 hours ago, wrestlingguy said:

That's alarming. Now I get why people hate hospitals more than ever before.

As a former RN, people LOVE hospitals. You’re waited on, you get meals, and most importantly you get IV narcotics.

And that is why I am a former RN. The US health care system is an absolute joke. 

[pokemonster]

The lack of updates and the duration between them is concerning…

[Tripnsweep]

10 hours ago, Not creative name said:

As a former RN, people LOVE hospitals. You’re waited on, you get meals, and most importantly you get IV narcotics.

And that is why I am a former RN. The US health care system is an absolute joke. 

I don't like them. I had to have inpatient surgery on my foot a few years ago. That was not pleasant and I was practically begging to go home as soon as I came back from the anesthesia. 

[Not creative name]

1 hour ago, Tripnsweep said:

I don't like them. I had to have inpatient surgery on my foot a few years ago. That was not pleasant and I was practically begging to go home as soon as I came back from the anesthesia. 

Yes, I understand there are normal people like tou who’d rather not be there.

But the number of frequent flyers, the people who get angry when the doctor tries to discharge them, the number of people who go to the ER to be admitted during major holidays so they can be around people and get attention is not only staggering, but very sad.

Edited June 11 by Not creative name

[Tripnsweep]

22 minutes ago, Not creative name said:

Yes, I understand there are normal people like tou who’d rather not be there.

But the number of frequent flyers, the people who get angry when the doctor tries to discharge them, the number of people who go to the ER to be admitted during major holidays so they can be around people and get attention is not only staggering, but very sad.

I never heard of that, but that's sad. I know about frequent fliers who try to get pills for minor issues. I had to go to the ER years ago because I really strained a muscle badly, thought it might have torn, and asked for ibuprofen only. They said usually people come in wanting "the good stuff". 

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

12 hours ago, pokemonster said:

The lack of updates and the duration between them is concerning…

There was an update on an Iowa board saying: "Saw a message from his wife . He opened his eyes yesterday and was able to follow commands and squeeze her hand . They're starting to wean him off the sedation . He's in a tough fight but that is some positive news"

I'm hoping it is accurate. (Thanks "west2east")

(I tried to copy the URL, but this forum turned it into a picture file or something...)

Edited June 11 by Interviewed_at_Weehawken

[PortaJohn]

15 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

There was an update on an Iowa board saying: "Saw a message from his wife . He opened his eyes yesterday and was able to follow commands and squeeze her hand . They're starting to wean him off the sedation . He's in a tough fight but that is some positive news"

I'm hoping it is accurate. (Thanks "west2east")

(I tried to copy the URL, but this forum turned it into a picture file or something...)

West2East is Corby.   Solid source and is legit

[Wrestleknownothing]

20 minutes ago, PortaJohn said:

West2East is Corby.   Solid source and is legit

Indeed. And lets hope this is the first step towards full recovery.